Interesting new SLR...

calicojack · 03-08-2009, 05:53 AM

New SLR? Not a K20D follow up? New Concept? More Advanced?
How about just maybe a 645D!

Parallax · 03-08-2009, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by janneman

They are not. I think the use of their english leaves room for....
rumors.

Oh good! I would hate to have to have nothing but facts to talk about.

falconeye · 03-08-2009, 09:12 AM

That was from Andreas Middeke speaking.

Andreas Middeke is International Manager Pentax Europe and Geschäftsführer (CEO) Pentax (Switzerland) AG.

He is from Buchholz in der Nordheide (close to Hamburg)(Buchholz in der Nordheide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

Maybe, somebody living nearby can make him canned and learn more

RMabo · 03-08-2009, 09:28 AM

The more advanced model will be *announced* this summer, but it won't be available until after the summer.

RMabo · 03-08-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by calicojack

New SLR? Not a K20D follow up? New Concept? More Advanced?
How about just maybe a 645D!

The 645D is not a new concept. It has been around on several shows for a couple of years now, so nothing new there and not even a secret. They are not talking about the 645D. If they were, they would call it the 645D.

It is not logic, Captain Kirk, to talk secretely about a model everyone knows about...

ftpaddict · 03-08-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

The more advanced model will be *announced* this summer, but it won't be available until after the summer.

He said it'd go on sale this summer.

Speculation: 645D? Already developed... just needs to go on sale.

ogl · 03-08-2009, 10:07 AM

He also said that DA line of lenses ends.

new camera above K20D, but in another form...
no any DA anymore...strange...

maybe FF or crop 1.2 in new body?

falconeye · 03-08-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by ogl

He also said that DA line of lenses ends.

Not in this interview! I guess you're wrong here.

New concept...
This could be anything from FF or medium format to anything as modest as a new body which is different from the K10D/K20D body.

Using Occam's razor and the experience with the big words preceeding the K20D announcement, I think it is a safe bet to say "new body".

So, it would be about the K3D, not the K30D, why he didn't say "direct successor" to the K20D.

If the K3D would be FF? Well, taking his remark "the concept has changed during the development in the past months" it actually may mean that they decided to put an FF sensor into it (esp. as those are becoming cheaper and cheaper). It is known that this camera was planned for PMA2009 launch. So, this "recent change of concept" led to a delay. It must have been for some significant reason.

thibs · 03-08-2009, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by RuiC

From recent patent applications Pentax has a new mount in the works. That is definitive. To go with it they have a full compatibility adapter. What remains to be clarified is what compatibility is it. What new bodies(formats) will go with it and when.

RuiC

Could you please point to the patent application? Much interested in reading these.

NorthPentax · 03-08-2009, 12:06 PM

The new dSLR from Pentax will be a K30 or a more advanced model called K3 or K3D.
No FF, but an APS-C or maybe APS-H'ish(that will work fine with all DA lenses).

Bophoto · 03-08-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by RuiC View Post
From recent patent applications Pentax has a new mount in the works. That is definitive. To go with it they have a full compatibility adapter. What remains to be clarified is what compatibility is it. What new bodies(formats) will go with it and when.
RuiC

Originally posted by thibs

Could you please point to the patent application? Much interested in reading these.

It can be Samsungs NX that Pentax do the new mount to, a Micro-K.

*isteve · 03-08-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by m8o

Great 1st post!

Not only was the quality of that stream excellent, the info conveyed was a big tumbs-up! I really loved the smirk on the rep's face as he was spilling the beans. lol

That should:
a) dispel some rumors
b) really get the rumor mill going focused on FF or pro or both!

It seems the K20D should be around a good bit longer then too.

One thing is certain, development of the imaging system for the new camera (sensor and processor) started at least 18 months ago and is unlikely to change. What is going to change is the packaging - the type and specification of body that this image system will be installed in and its price point.

Instead of thinking about what Nikon and Canon do and expecting Pentax to do the same, think instead of what they DONT do any more and where the gaps are in their ranges. What market are they NOT addressing.

Or is everyone so brainwashed by Canon's marketing that nothing short of a 5Dmk2 clone with Pentax written on it will do? If so, buy a Canon. You will never get what you want.

I suspect the K20D will continue at a discount as their midrange product until they have sold all remaining stock before being superceded by a "new" midrange body which will have very similar specs to the current camera, but will be smaller.

Jonson PL · 03-08-2009, 01:57 PM

Sweet info. Thanks

*isteve · 03-08-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Didgeridoohan

Hello there

I was searching through information about PMA and found this little thing from a swedish camera magazine. I checked to see if it had been mentioned here before, but I couldn't find anything...

It's an interview with a representative from pentax at the PMA and he says some interesting things about a new SLR coming in the summer. Most of it is in swedish, but check it out from about 0:55 and you'll see.

Pentax på PMA

Enjoy!

Great find - thanks - and good news!

jct us101 · 03-08-2009, 03:31 PM

I don't see them ending the DA line of lenses when it's not even 10 years old yet.

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03-08-2009, 05:53 AM	#16
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	New SLR? Not a K20D follow up? New Concept? More Advanced? How about just maybe a 645D!

03-08-2009, 07:35 AM	#17
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by janneman They are not. I think the use of their english leaves room for.... rumors. Oh good! I would hate to have to have nothing but facts to talk about.

03-08-2009, 09:12 AM	#18
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	That was from *Andreas Middeke* speaking. Andreas Middeke is International Manager Pentax Europe and Geschäftsführer (CEO) Pentax (Switzerland) AG. He is from Buchholz in der Nordheide (close to Hamburg)(Buchholz in der Nordheide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Maybe, somebody living nearby can make him canned and learn more

03-08-2009, 09:28 AM	#19
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	The more advanced model will be announced this summer, but it won't be available until after the summer.

03-08-2009, 09:30 AM	#20
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by calicojack New SLR? Not a K20D follow up? New Concept? More Advanced? How about just maybe a 645D! The 645D is not a new concept. It has been around on several shows for a couple of years now, so nothing new there and not even a secret. They are not talking about the 645D. If they were, they would call it the 645D. It is not logic, Captain Kirk, to talk secretely about a model everyone knows about...

03-08-2009, 10:00 AM	#21
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by RMabo The more advanced model will be announced this summer, but it won't be available until after the summer. He said it'd go on sale this summer. Speculation: 645D? Already developed... just needs to go on sale.

03-08-2009, 10:07 AM	#22
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	He also said that DA line of lenses ends. new camera above K20D, but in another form... no any DA anymore...strange... maybe FF or crop 1.2 in new body?

03-08-2009, 10:56 AM	#23
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by ogl He also said that DA line of lenses ends. Not in this interview! I guess you're wrong here. New concept... This could be anything from FF or medium format to anything as modest as a new body which is different from the K10D/K20D body. Using Occam's razor and the experience with the big words preceeding the K20D announcement, I think it is a safe bet to say "new body". So, it would be about the K3D, not the K30D, why he didn't say "direct successor" to the K20D. If the K3D would be FF? Well, taking his remark "the concept has changed during the development in the past months" it actually may mean that they decided to put an FF sensor into it (esp. as those are becoming cheaper and cheaper). It is known that this camera was planned for PMA2009 launch. So, this "recent change of concept" led to a delay. It must have been for some significant reason.

03-08-2009, 11:15 AM	#24
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by RuiC From recent patent applications Pentax has a new mount in the works. That is definitive. To go with it they have a full compatibility adapter. What remains to be clarified is what compatibility is it. What new bodies(formats) will go with it and when. RuiC Could you please point to the patent application? Much interested in reading these.

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NorthPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: No(r)way Photos: Gallery Posts: 179	The new dSLR from Pentax will be a K30 or a more advanced model called K3 or K3D. No FF, but an APS-C or maybe APS-H'ish(that will work fine with all DA lenses).

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03-08-2009, 01:33 PM	#26
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Originally Posted by RuiC View Post From recent patent applications Pentax has a new mount in the works. That is definitive. To go with it they have a full compatibility adapter. What remains to be clarified is what compatibility is it. What new bodies(formats) will go with it and when. RuiC Originally posted by thibs Could you please point to the patent application? Much interested in reading these. It can be Samsungs NX that Pentax do the new mount to, a Micro-K.

03-08-2009, 01:56 PM	#27
*isteve Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 1,187	Originally posted by m8o Great 1st post! Not only was the quality of that stream excellent, the info conveyed was a big tumbs-up! I really loved the smirk on the rep's face as he was spilling the beans. lol That should: a) dispel some rumors b) really get the rumor mill going focused on FF or pro or both! It seems the K20D should be around a good bit longer then too. One thing is certain, development of the imaging system for the new camera (sensor and processor) started at least 18 months ago and is unlikely to change. What is going to change is the packaging - the type and specification of body that this image system will be installed in and its price point. Instead of thinking about what Nikon and Canon do and expecting Pentax to do the same, think instead of what they DONT do any more and where the gaps are in their ranges. What market are they NOT addressing. Or is everyone so brainwashed by Canon's marketing that nothing short of a 5Dmk2 clone with Pentax written on it will do? If so, buy a Canon. You will never get what you want. I suspect the K20D will continue at a discount as their midrange product until they have sold all remaining stock before being superceded by a "new" midrange body which will have very similar specs to the current camera, but will be smaller.

03-08-2009, 01:57 PM	#28
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Sweet info. Thanks

03-08-2009, 01:58 PM	#29
*isteve Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 1,187	Originally posted by Didgeridoohan Hello there I was searching through information about PMA and found this little thing from a swedish camera magazine. I checked to see if it had been mentioned here before, but I couldn't find anything... It's an interview with a representative from pentax at the PMA and he says some interesting things about a new SLR coming in the summer. Most of it is in swedish, but check it out from about 0:55 and you'll see. Pentax på PMA Enjoy! Great find - thanks - and good news!

03-08-2009, 03:31 PM	#30
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	I don't see them ending the DA line of lenses when it's not even 10 years old yet.