Hoya/Pentax - answer to questions about our future

mithrandir · 03-09-2009, 10:25 AM

We could just wait and see. It might be a summer of pleasant surprises.

**GaryM** · 03-09-2009, 10:27 AM

The only news I see here is that Hoya isn't giving up on the camera business yet. The rest is just market-speak, and I don't see how anyone can draw any solid conclusions from it.

mattdm · 03-09-2009, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by lol101

Does that make any sense?

Does it mean a DSLR with higher specs than K20 (ie higher fps, renewed AF, ...?) wrapped in a K200D styled body (ie no hyper modes, no TAv, no second wheel...)?

That's what it sounds like to me too. If so, I'll be seriously, seriously disappointed. I'm happy with my K10D now, and was looking forward to eventually upgrading it to an evolved version of the same nice photographic tool.

Originally posted by lol101

And the "new concept" would then replace the K20D but with similar specs (fps, AF, ... , ... )?

The comments about the new 15mm Limited are encouraging here, at least. Hopefully the "new concept" is more "Limited body" and less "Whiz-bang Movie Camera That Happens to Take Still Pictures".

Urmas R. · 03-09-2009, 10:42 AM

I am totally lost now. What does it mean "NO successor to the K20D model"? Ever?

What the hell is then ""Summer" camera will be K200D's replacement with specs higher than K20D"?

This gets far too complicated to my brain....

Their lens road map is in the end (no new lenses planned)...
Their flagship camera is not updated any longer...
I wonder, where does it all end up? I am kind of a worried about all this.

RBellavance · 03-09-2009, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by mattdm

That's what it sounds like to me too. If so, I'll be seriously, seriously disappointed. I'm happy with my K10D now, and was looking forward to eventually upgrading it to an evolved version of the same nice photographic tool.

Sums up my feelings pretty well. I'm very curious to see what this "new concept" will be. I very much doubt I'll want it if it doesn't have a top LCD and less than 2 control wheels, but I'm willing to be surprised

**monochrome** · 03-09-2009, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by mithrandir

We could just wait and see. It might be a summer of pleasant surprises.

Well, it all certainly is . . . . Interesting!

m8o · 03-09-2009, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Urmas R.

I am totally lost now. What does it mean "NO successor to the K20D model"? Ever?

What the hell is then ""Summer" camera will be K200D's replacement with specs higher than K20D"?

I'll address the question with a question for anyone's attention. I don't know the answer to this: When the *ist line was replaced with the K#D line, was the K10D considered a successor for the *ist [DS2] model or a whole 'new' model? It's semantics but has significance.

Timarete · 03-09-2009, 12:18 PM

I hope that new line of lenses doesn't mean they're moving to a new mount.

Harald · 03-09-2009, 12:42 PM

My count down to bail out has obviously began... chute release wire is attached to hook, I am standing in the door, just collecting courage to roar "GERONIMOoooo........"

As far as I can see, Pentax is now taking different path than what is suitable for me. My game is landscapes, not hardcore extreme outdoor activities. Please say that this interpretation is wrong.

atiratha · 03-09-2009, 01:29 PM

Well, seeing, that ricehigh's translation says that the k200D successor comes in the end of the year, let me speculate. Ricehigh's translation says 2 SLRs, one in summer, one in the end of year, it says the summer one will have a price tag like K20D, sooo....judging by the fact that there is only the 645D and the K200D successor, could it mean the 645D will be ultra-cheap?

er1kksen · 03-09-2009, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Harald

My count down to bail out has obviously began... chute release wire is attached to hook, I am standing in the door, just collecting courage to roar "GERONIMOoooo........"

As far as I can see, Pentax is now taking different path than what is suitable for me. My game is landscapes, not hardcore extreme outdoor activities. Please say that this interpretation is wrong.

I'd tend to doubt that whatever they plan to release won't be any less capable for landscapes than, say, the K20D, and your glass should still be compatible.

elkarrde · 03-09-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Timarete

I hope that new line of lenses doesn't mean they're moving to a new mount.

well, pentax just released DA15 ltd, i think k-mount is going to stay just a bit longer...

Harald · 03-09-2009, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by er1kksen

I'd tend to doubt that whatever they plan to release won't be any less capable for landscapes than, say, the K20D, and your glass should still be compatible.

Well, what I was for, isnt just equally capable for landscapes than K20, but better. FF and more details.

K20 isnt bad at all, but FF would be better for my purposes. But we will get something else, wouldnt we?

cyg · 03-09-2009, 02:50 PM

I think that the K10d was actually considered an update of the original *ist D.

solar1 · 03-09-2009, 02:52 PM

that the making of interpretations of a poorly translated interpretation makes ones gizzards twisted into a gordian knot, for nought.

Taketh thy innards to a restful state of no-mind... all will be clear with time.

Originally posted by Harald

My count down to bail out has obviously began... chute release wire is attached to hook, I am standing in the door, just collecting courage to roar "GERONIMOoooo........"

As far as I can see, Pentax is now taking different path than what is suitable for me. My game is landscapes, not hardcore extreme outdoor activities. Please say that this interpretation is wrong.

03-09-2009, 12:42 PM	#24
Harald Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 259	My count down to bail out has obviously began... chute release wire is attached to hook, I am standing in the door, just collecting courage to roar "GERONIMOoooo........" As far as I can see, Pentax is now taking different path than what is suitable for me. My game is landscapes, not hardcore extreme outdoor activities. Please say that this interpretation is wrong. Last edited by Harald; 03-09-2009 at 12:59 PM.

03-09-2009, 02:52 PM	#30
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565	It seems that the making of interpretations of a poorly translated interpretation makes ones gizzards twisted into a gordian knot, for nought. Taketh thy innards to a restful state of no-mind... all will be clear with time. Originally posted by Harald My count down to bail out has obviously began... chute release wire is attached to hook, I am standing in the door, just collecting courage to roar "GERONIMOoooo........" As far as I can see, Pentax is now taking different path than what is suitable for me. My game is landscapes, not hardcore extreme outdoor activities. Please say that this interpretation is wrong. Last edited by solar1; 03-09-2009 at 03:15 PM.

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03-09-2009, 10:25 AM	#16
mithrandir Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,895	We could just wait and see. It might be a summer of pleasant surprises.

03-09-2009, 10:27 AM	#17
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	The only news I see here is that Hoya isn't giving up on the camera business yet. The rest is just market-speak, and I don't see how anyone can draw any solid conclusions from it.

03-09-2009, 10:34 AM	#18
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by lol101 Does that make any sense? Does it mean a DSLR with higher specs than K20 (ie higher fps, renewed AF, ...?) wrapped in a K200D styled body (ie no hyper modes, no TAv, no second wheel...)? That's what it sounds like to me too. If so, I'll be seriously, seriously disappointed. I'm happy with my K10D now, and was looking forward to eventually upgrading it to an evolved version of the same nice photographic tool. Originally posted by lol101 And the "new concept" would then replace the K20D but with similar specs (fps, AF, ... , ... )? The comments about the new 15mm Limited are encouraging here, at least. Hopefully the "new concept" is more "Limited body" and less "Whiz-bang Movie Camera That Happens to Take Still Pictures".

03-09-2009, 10:42 AM	#19
Urmas R. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 179	I am totally lost now. What does it mean "NO successor to the K20D model"? Ever? What the hell is then ""Summer" camera will be K200D's replacement with specs higher than K20D"? This gets far too complicated to my brain.... Their lens road map is in the end (no new lenses planned)... Their flagship camera is not updated any longer... I wonder, where does it all end up? I am kind of a worried about all this.

03-09-2009, 11:01 AM	#20
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by mattdm That's what it sounds like to me too. If so, I'll be seriously, seriously disappointed. I'm happy with my K10D now, and was looking forward to eventually upgrading it to an evolved version of the same nice photographic tool. Sums up my feelings pretty well. I'm very curious to see what this "new concept" will be. I very much doubt I'll want it if it doesn't have a top LCD and less than 2 control wheels, but I'm willing to be surprised

03-09-2009, 11:04 AM	#21
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by mithrandir We could just wait and see. It might be a summer of pleasant surprises. Well, it all certainly is . . . . Interesting!

03-09-2009, 12:03 PM	#22
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	Originally posted by Urmas R. I am totally lost now. What does it mean "NO successor to the K20D model"? Ever? What the hell is then ""Summer" camera will be K200D's replacement with specs higher than K20D"? I'll address the question with a question for anyone's attention. I don't know the answer to this: When the ist line was replaced with the K#D line, was the K10D considered a successor for the ist [DS2] model or a whole 'new' model? It's semantics but has significance.

03-09-2009, 12:18 PM	#23
Timarete Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 49	I hope that new line of lenses doesn't mean they're moving to a new mount.

03-09-2009, 01:29 PM	#25
atiratha Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	Well, seeing, that ricehigh's translation says that the k200D successor comes in the end of the year, let me speculate. Ricehigh's translation says 2 SLRs, one in summer, one in the end of year, it says the summer one will have a price tag like K20D, sooo....judging by the fact that there is only the 645D and the K200D successor, could it mean the 645D will be ultra-cheap?

03-09-2009, 01:55 PM	#26
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Originally posted by Harald My count down to bail out has obviously began... chute release wire is attached to hook, I am standing in the door, just collecting courage to roar "GERONIMOoooo........" As far as I can see, Pentax is now taking different path than what is suitable for me. My game is landscapes, not hardcore extreme outdoor activities. Please say that this interpretation is wrong. I'd tend to doubt that whatever they plan to release won't be any less capable for landscapes than, say, the K20D, and your glass should still be compatible.

03-09-2009, 01:59 PM	#27
elkarrde Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 387	Originally posted by Timarete I hope that new line of lenses doesn't mean they're moving to a new mount. well, pentax just released DA15 ltd, i think k-mount is going to stay just a bit longer...

03-09-2009, 02:39 PM	#28
Harald Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 259	Originally posted by er1kksen I'd tend to doubt that whatever they plan to release won't be any less capable for landscapes than, say, the K20D, and your glass should still be compatible. Well, what I was for, isnt just equally capable for landscapes than K20, but better. FF and more details. K20 isnt bad at all, but FF would be better for my purposes. But we will get something else, wouldnt we?

03-09-2009, 02:50 PM	#29
cyg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 134	I think that the K10d was actually considered an update of the original *ist D.