Ned B ... a brave man.

mattdm · 03-21-2009, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by rparmar

Yes, that's right, as soon as Ned deletes his Leica post, all the woes of Pentax will disappear! He is the one to blame!! His magic causes entire economies to tumble in his wake!!

Oh yes his pictures are all so crap -- not! They are exactly like what most people enjoy taking... holiday snaps, big birds on piers, that sort of thing. If he was an art photographer I bet he would get criticisms for not being populist enough, for being elite and out of touch. Yes, there is always something to bitch at for those with no perspective.

Ned is, apparently, a real person who enjoys photography, not just a brand obsessed fan-boy. Some people get all irked by that. Not me. I actually respect him more than I would otherwise. If he says a lens is good or a camera is worth trying I will now grant him more credence.

Any other camera president I would just dismiss as a marketing drone. (Until proven otherwise.)

Well said.

Unfortunately, though, I don't think it really matters — Pentax USA doesn't seem to have much influence over what comes out of Japan. Marketing seems to be the only semi-independent function they have.

Pentax USA can't even provide some of the technical information about their flashes I asked for, because Pentax Japan won't tell them.

creampuff · 03-21-2009, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by mattdm

Pentax USA can't even provide some of the technical information about their flashes I asked for, because Pentax Japan won't tell them.

How to trust Pentax USA if the President is openly using the products of another Japanese photographic company...

benjikan · 03-21-2009, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

How to trust Pentax USA if the President is openly using the products of another Japanese photographic company...

I like his Maverick "Don't Give a F'ck" attitude. If he could just translate that in to the Pentax Marketing approach that would be perfect..."Rock and Roll"

Ben

**monochrome** · 03-21-2009, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

I like his Maverick "Don't Give a F'ck" attitude. If he could just translate that in to the Pentax Marketing approach that would be perfect..."Rock and Roll"

Ben

BE BOLD.

BE CURIOUS.

BE ________________

INTERESTING.

Who are the edgy consumers that will buy Pentax in five years when old f#$%'s like me are beyond consumption? (well, we're already beyond consumption).

It feels to me as if Pentax is trying to find them, but doesn't really know how.

thibs · 03-21-2009, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

How to trust Pentax USA if the President is openly using the products of another Japanese photographic company...

As ridiculous as can be... you're not tired yet with this, are you?

Blue · 03-21-2009, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by nostatic

ok, if you're a Brit that statement is ok. If you're a Yank, I'd suggest therapy or perhaps something from the specialty porn section.

Since he is in Wisconsin, there is a good chance he is a Yank!

Clicker · 03-21-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Blue

Since he is in Wisconsin, there is a good chance he is a Yank!

One day i'll have to redo my profile LOL

Blue · 03-21-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Clicker

One day i'll have to redo my profile LOL

Never mind, it was Cheesehead that is listed as in Wisconsin.

ryan s · 03-21-2009, 01:32 PM

I'm a Sconnie too (for better or worse)

Ahhh...I'm posting on page 5 :ugh:

jeffkrol · 03-21-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by ryan s

I'm a Sconnie too (for better or worse)

Ahhh...I'm posting on page 5 :ugh:

3 of us in 1 thread, that's just scary.

nostatic · 03-21-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

Ned is, apparently, a real person

That's where you're wrong. Clearly he's a Cylon. Unfortunately he doesn't look like this one

Clicker · 03-21-2009, 05:33 PM

I'm sure she doesn't read the Pentax forums.

creampuff · 03-21-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by nostatic

That's where you're wrong. Clearly he's a Cylon. Unfortunately he doesn't look like this one

Wow, I like...

photographically speaking of course

thibs · 03-22-2009, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

Wow, I like...

photographically speaking of course

Of course

creampuff · 03-22-2009, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Of course

Seriously, I'm observing the butterfly lighting here...
but I won't deny that I'd like to get to know this Cylon better.

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03-21-2009, 05:14 AM	#61
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by rparmar Yes, that's right, as soon as Ned deletes his Leica post, all the woes of Pentax will disappear! He is the one to blame!! His magic causes entire economies to tumble in his wake!! Oh yes his pictures are all so crap -- not! They are exactly like what most people enjoy taking... holiday snaps, big birds on piers, that sort of thing. If he was an art photographer I bet he would get criticisms for not being populist enough, for being elite and out of touch. Yes, there is always something to bitch at for those with no perspective. Ned is, apparently, a real person who enjoys photography, not just a brand obsessed fan-boy. Some people get all irked by that. Not me. I actually respect him more than I would otherwise. If he says a lens is good or a camera is worth trying I will now grant him more credence. Any other camera president I would just dismiss as a marketing drone. (Until proven otherwise.) Well said. Unfortunately, though, I don't think it really matters — Pentax USA doesn't seem to have much influence over what comes out of Japan. Marketing seems to be the only semi-independent function they have. Pentax USA can't even provide some of the technical information about their flashes I asked for, because Pentax Japan won't tell them.

03-21-2009, 06:18 AM	#62
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by mattdm Pentax USA can't even provide some of the technical information about their flashes I asked for, because Pentax Japan won't tell them. How to trust Pentax USA if the President is openly using the products of another Japanese photographic company...

03-21-2009, 06:50 AM	#63
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by creampuff How to trust Pentax USA if the President is openly using the products of another Japanese photographic company... I like his Maverick "Don't Give a F'ck" attitude. If he could just translate that in to the Pentax Marketing approach that would be perfect..."Rock and Roll" Ben

03-21-2009, 07:46 AM	#64
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by benjikan I like his Maverick "Don't Give a F'ck" attitude. If he could just translate that in to the Pentax Marketing approach that would be perfect..."Rock and Roll" Ben BE BOLD. BE CURIOUS. BE ________________ INTERESTING. Who are the edgy consumers that will buy Pentax in five years when old f#$%'s like me are beyond consumption? (well, we're already beyond consumption). It feels to me as if Pentax is trying to find them, but doesn't really know how.

03-21-2009, 08:05 AM	#65
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by creampuff How to trust Pentax USA if the President is openly using the products of another Japanese photographic company... As ridiculous as can be... you're not tired yet with this, are you?

03-21-2009, 09:10 AM	#66
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by nostatic ok, if you're a Brit that statement is ok. If you're a Yank, I'd suggest therapy or perhaps something from the specialty porn section. Since he is in Wisconsin, there is a good chance he is a Yank!

03-21-2009, 09:24 AM	#67
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Originally posted by Blue Since he is in Wisconsin, there is a good chance he is a Yank! One day i'll have to redo my profile LOL

03-21-2009, 09:55 AM	#68
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Clicker One day i'll have to redo my profile LOL Never mind, it was Cheesehead that is listed as in Wisconsin.

03-21-2009, 01:32 PM	#69
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	I'm a Sconnie too (for better or worse) Ahhh...I'm posting on page 5 :ugh:

03-21-2009, 02:00 PM	#70
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434 Original Poster	Originally posted by ryan s I'm a Sconnie too (for better or worse) Ahhh...I'm posting on page 5 :ugh: 3 of us in 1 thread, that's just scary.

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03-21-2009, 05:20 PM	#71
nostatic Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: socal Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,575	Originally posted by rparmar Ned is, apparently, a real person That's where you're wrong. Clearly he's a Cylon. Unfortunately he doesn't look like this one

03-21-2009, 05:33 PM	#72
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	I'm sure she doesn't read the Pentax forums.

03-21-2009, 05:43 PM	#73
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by nostatic That's where you're wrong. Clearly he's a Cylon. Unfortunately he doesn't look like this one Wow, I like... photographically speaking of course

03-22-2009, 03:14 AM	#74
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by creampuff Wow, I like... photographically speaking of course Of course

03-22-2009, 10:53 AM	#75
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by thibs Of course Seriously, I'm observing the butterfly lighting here... but I won't deny that I'd like to get to know this Cylon better.