Ned B ... a brave man.

jeffkrol · 03-18-2009, 04:05 PM

or..... ?
Anyways had to post this here since it is the only way for me NOT to post something "over there".
Posting at dp review in the midst of the "downsizing" news must count for something...
Also I had to hold myself back from checking the EXIF to see if any of those were from his wonderful "other camera"...
I really have to get me one of "those" jobs...
forgive me

Buddha Jones · 03-18-2009, 04:09 PM

What are you talking about?

Igilligan · 03-18-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

or..... ?
Anyways had to post this here since it is the only way for me NOT to post something "over there".
Posting at dp review in the midst of the "downsizing" news must count for something...
Also I had to hold myself back from checking the EXIF to see if any of those were from his wonderful "other camera"...
I really have to get me one of "those" jobs...
forgive me

Maybe he is back from vacation and nobody told him they had layed of half of the Japanese workforce!

Kunzite · 03-18-2009, 04:14 PM

The daily life of a pentaxian.
"Each morning I'm waking up at 7; I take a breakfast, drink my morning coffee and read the news. If Pentax isn't dead yet, I'll grab my camera and go out to take some pictures"

WheresWaldo · 03-18-2009, 04:20 PM

Yeah, what's up? The last post is all DA*55 and the post before of the 15mm is all K20D images. Besides Sales force reductions are common in poor economic conditions. Pentax is outsourcing it's P&S cameras so no need for developers, just marketers.

whatever7 · 03-18-2009, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

or..... ?
Anyways had to post this here since it is the only way for me NOT to post something "over there".
Posting at dp review in the midst of the "downsizing" news must count for something...
Also I had to hold myself back from checking the EXIF to see if any of those were from his wonderful "other camera"...
I really have to get me one of "those" jobs...
forgive me

I ran your post through google eng->eng translator and I can't make sense out of it.

regken · 03-18-2009, 05:06 PM

Or is more like it. He strikes me as the type that is just along for the ride.

Just a cautionary note on the layoffs. When Hoya bought Pentax they supposedly cut everything to the bone at that time. Now they come back and make even further cuts that would have to include some essential personnel.

It won't surprise me if the new units are postponed until the end of the year or even later.

jeffkrol · 03-18-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Buddha Jones

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by whatever7

I ran your post through google eng->eng translator and I can't make sense out of it.

Sorry. I was trying to be civil in a tabloid type of "tattler" manner.. Still annoyed by the Leica incident... but let's not go there for now.
.. Mr. B comes back from vacation or at least NOW decides to post vacation shots w/ his K20D (MUST.. NOT... CHECK... EXIF) amid a blazing headline
"Pentax may halve Japan camera workforce"...... then mentions nothing nada zip.. Seems his job is secured, la la la lala, why worry about a bunch of sales drones.... no wait.. that what he used to be.....
Sorry I just see all sorts of emotions flashing through this.. must be tired and really don't want to go to dpreview and ask a blatent question because 1) probably won't get a straight answer and 2)Ned-o-philes will jump on me for being rude to the "prez"... and lighten up he just got back from vacation, and what does that have to do w/ photography... ad nauseum...
Well someone finally asked the hard question:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=31344959
Hi Ned, what is going to happen to pentax? looks like massive lay offs in japan and outside of japan?
should we expect a new k30d?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=31345390
I doubt that this is the place for either of those questions to be posed to Ned nor, that he would actually answer them.
Lets be sensible.

See what I mean

Buddha Jones · 03-18-2009, 07:03 PM

Why would Ned be worried about Japan's layoffs, he's the US president. I am sure he has his own issue.

poco · 03-18-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Buddha Jones

Why would Ned be worried about Japan's layoffs, he's the US president. I am sure he has his own issue.

There 300 other people outside of Japan included in the RIP.

The thing about layoffs is that they make the people left nervous and there is usually a pretty large number that start looking for new work. I would say another 10-15% will leave within a few months if there is an opportunity for them to do so.

Clicker · 03-18-2009, 08:34 PM

I wish some people would stop being blindsided by Ned having a Leica, he's had it waaaaay before he became Pres of Pentax USA. He's used a lot of systems and kept what was good for him to shoot after all the man is a photographer first. He's not the only photographer to have multi brands/systems, there are few in this forum myself included. Heading Pentax USA also doesn't mean he has to live and breathe Pentax either, that's mostly for the Pentax fanboys, his blog is 99.9999% Pentax, so he used his Leica but also posted why ...did some of us miss that?

How many other US camera manufacturer's Pres has a blog to mingle with it's users? Rather than seeing negatively to his use of his favourite "film" camera, why don't you show him what your favourite Pentax camera can do; it was a challenged issued to you "Mr Pentax fanboy", so in the spirit of photography you either show up or shut up

poco · 03-18-2009, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Clicker

Heading Pentax USA also doesn't mean he has to live and breathe Pentax either,

Maybe Pentax would do better in the US if he did?

Originally posted by Clicker

Rather than seeing negatively to his use of his favourite "film" camera,

A D-Lux 4 is a film camera?

palmor · 03-19-2009, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by Clicker

I wish some people would stop being blindsided by Ned having a Leica, he's had it waaaaay before he became Pres of Pentax USA. He's used a lot of systems and kept what was good for him to shoot after all the man is a photographer first. He's not the only photographer to have multi brands/systems, there are few in this forum myself included. Heading Pentax USA also doesn't mean he has to live and breathe Pentax either, that's mostly for the Pentax fanboys, his blog is 99.9999% Pentax, so he used his Leica but also posted why ...did some of us miss that?

How many other US camera manufacturer's Pres has a blog to mingle with it's users? Rather than seeing negatively to his use of his favourite "film" camera, why don't you show him what your favourite Pentax camera can do; it was a challenged issued to you "Mr Pentax fanboy", so in the spirit of photography you either show up or shut up

My WAG on Ned using that other brand camera is this. Like Ned said, Pentax doesn't currently have anything to compete with it... until what-ever is going to be announced this summer. That would place Ned in a perfect position to compare the new Pentax with the dlux and demonstrate how much better it is.

I know, a little conspiracy theory'ish but hey since when do we base any of these rumors on real facts

John

vitalsax · 03-19-2009, 11:25 AM

oh the one who takes terrible pics and makes free advertisement for leica in his blog?

cateto · 03-19-2009, 11:26 AM

^ probably you can show a few of your pictures which blow away those of Ned, right?

03-18-2009, 04:05 PM	#1
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Ned B ... a brave man. or..... ? Anyways had to post this here since it is the only way for me NOT to post something "over there". Posting at dp review in the midst of the "downsizing" news must count for something... Also I had to hold myself back from checking the EXIF to see if any of those were from his wonderful "other camera"... I really have to get me one of "those" jobs... forgive me

03-18-2009, 04:13 PM	#3
Igilligan Guest	He did not even mention it!!! Originally posted by jeffkrol or..... ? Anyways had to post this here since it is the only way for me NOT to post something "over there". Posting at dp review in the midst of the "downsizing" news must count for something... Also I had to hold myself back from checking the EXIF to see if any of those were from his wonderful "other camera"... I really have to get me one of "those" jobs... forgive me Maybe he is back from vacation and nobody told him they had layed of half of the Japanese workforce!

03-18-2009, 05:20 PM	#8
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434 Original Poster	Originally posted by Buddha Jones What are you talking about? Originally posted by whatever7 I ran your post through google eng->eng translator and I can't make sense out of it. Sorry. I was trying to be civil in a tabloid type of "tattler" manner.. Still annoyed by the Leica incident... but let's not go there for now. .. Mr. B comes back from vacation or at least NOW decides to post vacation shots w/ his K20D (MUST.. NOT... CHECK... EXIF) amid a blazing headline "Pentax may halve Japan camera workforce"...... then mentions nothing nada zip.. Seems his job is secured, la la la lala, why worry about a bunch of sales drones.... no wait.. that what he used to be..... Sorry I just see all sorts of emotions flashing through this.. must be tired and really don't want to go to dpreview and ask a blatent question because 1) probably won't get a straight answer and 2)Ned-o-philes will jump on me for being rude to the "prez"... and lighten up he just got back from vacation, and what does that have to do w/ photography... ad nauseum... Well someone finally asked the hard question: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=31344959 Hi Ned, what is going to happen to pentax? looks like massive lay offs in japan and outside of japan? should we expect a new k30d? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=31345390 I doubt that this is the place for either of those questions to be posed to Ned nor, that he would actually answer them. Lets be sensible. See what I mean Last edited by jeffkrol; 03-18-2009 at 06:18 PM.

03-19-2009, 11:25 AM	#14
vitalsax Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: U.S. /Miami - Florida. Posts: 208	ned who? oh the one who takes terrible pics and makes free advertisement for leica in his blog?

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03-18-2009, 04:09 PM	#2
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	What are you talking about?

03-18-2009, 04:14 PM	#4
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The daily life of a pentaxian. "Each morning I'm waking up at 7; I take a breakfast, drink my morning coffee and read the news. If Pentax isn't dead yet, I'll grab my camera and go out to take some pictures"

03-18-2009, 04:20 PM	#5
WheresWaldo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 498	Yeah, what's up? The last post is all DA*55 and the post before of the 15mm is all K20D images. Besides Sales force reductions are common in poor economic conditions. Pentax is outsourcing it's P&S cameras so no need for developers, just marketers.

03-18-2009, 04:57 PM	#6
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	Originally posted by jeffkrol or..... ? Anyways had to post this here since it is the only way for me NOT to post something "over there". Posting at dp review in the midst of the "downsizing" news must count for something... Also I had to hold myself back from checking the EXIF to see if any of those were from his wonderful "other camera"... I really have to get me one of "those" jobs... forgive me I ran your post through google eng->eng translator and I can't make sense out of it.

03-18-2009, 05:06 PM	#7
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Or is more like it. He strikes me as the type that is just along for the ride. Just a cautionary note on the layoffs. When Hoya bought Pentax they supposedly cut everything to the bone at that time. Now they come back and make even further cuts that would have to include some essential personnel. It won't surprise me if the new units are postponed until the end of the year or even later.

03-18-2009, 07:03 PM	#9
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Why would Ned be worried about Japan's layoffs, he's the US president. I am sure he has his own issue.

03-18-2009, 07:58 PM	#10
poco Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 153	Originally posted by Buddha Jones Why would Ned be worried about Japan's layoffs, he's the US president. I am sure he has his own issue. There 300 other people outside of Japan included in the RIP. The thing about layoffs is that they make the people left nervous and there is usually a pretty large number that start looking for new work. I would say another 10-15% will leave within a few months if there is an opportunity for them to do so.

03-18-2009, 08:34 PM	#11
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	I wish some people would stop being blindsided by Ned having a Leica, he's had it waaaaay before he became Pres of Pentax USA. He's used a lot of systems and kept what was good for him to shoot after all the man is a photographer first. He's not the only photographer to have multi brands/systems, there are few in this forum myself included. Heading Pentax USA also doesn't mean he has to live and breathe Pentax either, that's mostly for the Pentax fanboys, his blog is 99.9999% Pentax, so he used his Leica but also posted why ...did some of us miss that? How many other US camera manufacturer's Pres has a blog to mingle with it's users? Rather than seeing negatively to his use of his favourite "film" camera, why don't you show him what your favourite Pentax camera can do; it was a challenged issued to you "Mr Pentax fanboy", so in the spirit of photography you either show up or shut up

03-18-2009, 11:59 PM	#12
poco Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 153	Originally posted by Clicker Heading Pentax USA also doesn't mean he has to live and breathe Pentax either, Maybe Pentax would do better in the US if he did? Originally posted by Clicker Rather than seeing negatively to his use of his favourite "film" camera, A D-Lux 4 is a film camera?

03-19-2009, 05:29 AM	#13
palmor Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 798	Originally posted by Clicker I wish some people would stop being blindsided by Ned having a Leica, he's had it waaaaay before he became Pres of Pentax USA. He's used a lot of systems and kept what was good for him to shoot after all the man is a photographer first. He's not the only photographer to have multi brands/systems, there are few in this forum myself included. Heading Pentax USA also doesn't mean he has to live and breathe Pentax either, that's mostly for the Pentax fanboys, his blog is 99.9999% Pentax, so he used his Leica but also posted why ...did some of us miss that? How many other US camera manufacturer's Pres has a blog to mingle with it's users? Rather than seeing negatively to his use of his favourite "film" camera, why don't you show him what your favourite Pentax camera can do; it was a challenged issued to you "Mr Pentax fanboy", so in the spirit of photography you either show up or shut up My WAG on Ned using that other brand camera is this. Like Ned said, Pentax doesn't currently have anything to compete with it... until what-ever is going to be announced this summer. That would place Ned in a perfect position to compare the new Pentax with the dlux and demonstrate how much better it is. I know, a little conspiracy theory'ish but hey since when do we base any of these rumors on real facts John

03-19-2009, 11:26 AM	#15
cateto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 189	^ probably you can show a few of your pictures which blow away those of Ned, right?