URGENTTTT (not really but its pretty sad)

GLXLR · 03-22-2009, 03:50 PM

Camera Labs :: View topic - Danger alert: Pentax may cut workforce in half!

This thread explains it all.
Solution: Lets start buying genuine Pentax products! (cut off third-party and used lenses unless you have to)

Kunzite · 03-22-2009, 04:10 PM

Not again.
In Japan only, production is unaffected. It's a cost cutting measure and nothing else.
Btw, my purchase plans are unaffected by such news. And I'm planning for pretty expensive stuff.

kenyee · 03-22-2009, 04:25 PM

GLXLR obviously can't be bothered to look down a few threads

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/54518-hoya-cut-digital-camera-staff.html

Wheatfield · 03-22-2009, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by GLXLR

Camera Labs :: View topic - Danger alert: Pentax may cut workforce in half!

This thread explains it all.
Solution: Lets start buying genuine Pentax products! (cut off third-party and used lenses unless you have to)

I think Pentax is just about the last company to go through this. From what I've read elsewhere, they are outsourcing their compact camera R&D and manufacturing to third party manufacturers and eliminating the entire division.
They are keeping their SLR and lens divisions intact. With luck, the compact manufacturing lines can be converted over to SLR camera and lens assembly.
Nikon did it years ago, I think even before digital cameras hit the market.

kenyee · 03-22-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Nikon did it years ago, I think even before digital cameras hit the market.

Nikon's P&S cams aren't designed and built by Nikon???
I'm surprised they're so bleeding edge...

sezme · 03-22-2009, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by kenyee

Nikon's P&S cams aren't designed and built by Nikon??

Sanyo builds them for Nikon if I recall correctly.

Blue · 03-22-2009, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by sezme

Sanyo builds them for Nikon if I recall correctly.

Does that include their hybrids that have the Nikkor lenses?

losecontrol · 03-23-2009, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by GLXLR

Camera Labs :: View topic - Danger alert: Pentax may cut workforce in half!

This thread explains it all.
Solution: Lets start buying genuine Pentax products! (cut off third-party and used lenses unless you have to)

I spoke about this fact in a post some weeks ago.
Nobody thought it maked a sense. Well here we are.

People buy sigma and tamron lenses and then complain why pentax doesn't market new lenses....why? Easy, becasue we don't buy them.

losecontrol · 03-23-2009, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by losecontrol

I spoke about this fact in a post some weeks ago.
Nobody thought it maked a sense. Well here we are.

People buy sigma and tamron lenses and then complain why pentax doesn't market new lenses....why? Easy, becasue we don't buy them.

I send a clip from that thread I was speak about.....Pingflood have a huge point here!

Originally posted by pingflood

No need to be rude to the guy.

Having competition with similar lenses didn't stop neither Canon nor Nikon from cranking out their own 70-200/2.8 glass. Why? Because they can make money off them. Pentax currently sees $0 in revenue in that focal length range.

Well, Canon/Nikon both have 50mm f/1.8 lenses that are $100 or less. That's where a 50/1.7 could fit in from Pentax' side -- a really cheap decently fast (2/3 stop slower than the 1.4) prime. The Canon 50/1.4 has USM focusing and has blistering focus speed so it's not apples to apples there.

I think Ben makes a good point: there are some real gaps where Pentax could offer up some glass, even if they're just rebadged lenses -- at least they'd have the name on them and Pentax could score a few bucks selling them, as well as offer a larger lens lineup to attract potential new buyers.

Why is it that some people get so worked up when somebody implies that there's room for improvement? Clearly there's some demand and wishes for gear that doesn't exist and features that could be improved -- why not pay attention to that rather than acting like everything's perfect?

NorthPentax · 03-23-2009, 01:09 AM

What is so sad about cutting the workforce? The only thing that is sad, is that alot people are loosing their jobs. Frakk Pentax and frakk Hoya!

I think OP should read local news and be more concern about what's happening in his own country.

Canon cut 1200 jobs, this was reported in Dec. 2008.

Kodak cuts 4500 jobs!

Use google!!!

ftpaddict · 03-23-2009, 04:45 AM

You people are really funny.

losecontrol · 03-23-2009, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

You people are really funny.

got it..

Wake up everyone. Time to go out and snap some pictures

ftpaddict · 03-23-2009, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by losecontrol

got it..

Wake up everyone. Time to go out and snap some pictures

I can't do that, you see... since Pentax' workforce has been cut in half, my camera refuses to take pictures

Wheatfield · 03-23-2009, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Blue

Does that include their hybrids that have the Nikkor lenses?

Quite often, manufacturers will put the same lens into several camera brands, each one with the manufacturers name on it.
My first digital camera was a Canon G1. The lens in it was identical to a lens used in a Sony (and called a Vario Sonnar or some such) and it was used in another brand, I don't recall which, and called something else.
The new Pentax X70 is the same camera as one of the Nikon Coolpic cameras and one of the new Kodak cameras as well. They change the lens bezel and call it a Pentax lens for one brand, a Nikon lens for another, and whatever Kodak wants to call it for the Kodak.

thibs · 03-23-2009, 07:59 AM

And a quick check for that (for non-DSLr products) is the presence or not lf SMC on the lens.
No SMC, no Pentax lens.

03-22-2009, 03:50 PM	#1
GLXLR Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sugar Land, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 684	URGENTTTT (not really but its pretty sad) Camera Labs :: View topic - Danger alert: Pentax may cut workforce in half! This thread explains it all. Solution: Lets start buying genuine Pentax products! (cut off third-party and used lenses unless you have to)

03-23-2009, 12:47 AM	#8
losecontrol Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gnesta, Sweden Posts: 373	complain to pentax? think first Originally posted by GLXLR Camera Labs :: View topic - Danger alert: Pentax may cut workforce in half! This thread explains it all. Solution: Lets start buying genuine Pentax products! (cut off third-party and used lenses unless you have to) I spoke about this fact in a post some weeks ago. Nobody thought it maked a sense. Well here we are. People buy sigma and tamron lenses and then complain why pentax doesn't market new lenses....why? Easy, becasue we don't buy them.

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03-22-2009, 04:10 PM	#2
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Not again. In Japan only, production is unaffected. It's a cost cutting measure and nothing else. Btw, my purchase plans are unaffected by such news. And I'm planning for pretty expensive stuff.

03-22-2009, 04:25 PM	#3
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	GLXLR obviously can't be bothered to look down a few threads https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/54518-hoya-cut-digital-camera-staff.html

03-22-2009, 04:34 PM	#4
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by GLXLR Camera Labs :: View topic - Danger alert: Pentax may cut workforce in half! This thread explains it all. Solution: Lets start buying genuine Pentax products! (cut off third-party and used lenses unless you have to) I think Pentax is just about the last company to go through this. From what I've read elsewhere, they are outsourcing their compact camera R&D and manufacturing to third party manufacturers and eliminating the entire division. They are keeping their SLR and lens divisions intact. With luck, the compact manufacturing lines can be converted over to SLR camera and lens assembly. Nikon did it years ago, I think even before digital cameras hit the market.

03-22-2009, 05:40 PM	#5
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by Wheatfield Nikon did it years ago, I think even before digital cameras hit the market. Nikon's P&S cams aren't designed and built by Nikon??? I'm surprised they're so bleeding edge...

03-22-2009, 08:39 PM	#6
sezme Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 59	Originally posted by kenyee Nikon's P&S cams aren't designed and built by Nikon?? Sanyo builds them for Nikon if I recall correctly.

03-22-2009, 09:08 PM	#7
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by sezme Sanyo builds them for Nikon if I recall correctly. Does that include their hybrids that have the Nikkor lenses?

03-23-2009, 12:52 AM	#9
losecontrol Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gnesta, Sweden Posts: 373	Originally posted by losecontrol I spoke about this fact in a post some weeks ago. Nobody thought it maked a sense. Well here we are. People buy sigma and tamron lenses and then complain why pentax doesn't market new lenses....why? Easy, becasue we don't buy them. I send a clip from that thread I was speak about.....Pingflood have a huge point here! Originally posted by pingflood No need to be rude to the guy. Having competition with similar lenses didn't stop neither Canon nor Nikon from cranking out their own 70-200/2.8 glass. Why? Because they can make money off them. Pentax currently sees $0 in revenue in that focal length range. Well, Canon/Nikon both have 50mm f/1.8 lenses that are $100 or less. That's where a 50/1.7 could fit in from Pentax' side -- a really cheap decently fast (2/3 stop slower than the 1.4) prime. The Canon 50/1.4 has USM focusing and has blistering focus speed so it's not apples to apples there. I think Ben makes a good point: there are some real gaps where Pentax could offer up some glass, even if they're just rebadged lenses -- at least they'd have the name on them and Pentax could score a few bucks selling them, as well as offer a larger lens lineup to attract potential new buyers. Why is it that some people get so worked up when somebody implies that there's room for improvement? Clearly there's some demand and wishes for gear that doesn't exist and features that could be improved -- why not pay attention to that rather than acting like everything's perfect?

03-23-2009, 01:09 AM	#10
NorthPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: No(r)way Photos: Gallery Posts: 179	What is so sad about cutting the workforce? The only thing that is sad, is that alot people are loosing their jobs. Frakk Pentax and frakk Hoya! I think OP should read local news and be more concern about what's happening in his own country. Canon cut 1200 jobs, this was reported in Dec. 2008. Kodak cuts 4500 jobs! Use google!!!

03-23-2009, 04:45 AM	#11
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	You people are really funny.

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losecontrol Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gnesta, Sweden Posts: 373	Originally posted by ftpaddict You people are really funny. got it.. Wake up everyone. Time to go out and snap some pictures

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03-23-2009, 04:52 AM	#13
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by losecontrol got it.. Wake up everyone. Time to go out and snap some pictures I can't do that, you see... since Pentax' workforce has been cut in half, my camera refuses to take pictures

03-23-2009, 07:05 AM	#14
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by Blue Does that include their hybrids that have the Nikkor lenses? Quite often, manufacturers will put the same lens into several camera brands, each one with the manufacturers name on it. My first digital camera was a Canon G1. The lens in it was identical to a lens used in a Sony (and called a Vario Sonnar or some such) and it was used in another brand, I don't recall which, and called something else. The new Pentax X70 is the same camera as one of the Nikon Coolpic cameras and one of the new Kodak cameras as well. They change the lens bezel and call it a Pentax lens for one brand, a Nikon lens for another, and whatever Kodak wants to call it for the Kodak.

03-23-2009, 07:59 AM	#15
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	And a quick check for that (for non-DSLr products) is the presence or not lf SMC on the lens. No SMC, no Pentax lens.