Originally posted by Samsungian But like they said 645D is for Japan Homemarket only.
Well JC from Pentax USA said they don't believe that will bring it to the States due to what they anticipate as poor sales. In your mind that equals "Japan only" what 470 million people EU market could mean to you or extremely prosperous Asian zones such as Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong for example. Hell, no US means Japan only for you.
Quote: So maybe a PMA 2010 release, like Fall 2010 in Japan, then if successful how long, how many more months to go global? Months, year, years?
This is hilarious because guess what PMA just ended and they didn't gave too much sh&* about it choosing to announce the camera at PIE about 3 weeks latter. So, yes, you're so rrrright ........ they MUST unveil the "thing" at PMA 10 for sure and launch it between Xmas and New Year's Eve to meet the 2010 deadline.
Quote: Thats the thing the used to drive me crazy about Pentax:
Wait Around Long Enough & We'll Make It.
And of course the rest just have absolutely *everything* one can wish for ready and available. That is if you don't mind to buy at premium prices 90s optics with a glaze of digital coatings and a motor inside. Lots of examples from C, N and S!
Quote: Back in 1970's every camera maker offered an image of their "System". Whether you need every item or not it illustrated what all the manufacturer offered & inspired confidence.
Indeed until this "confidence" ended with a totally new lens mount for C and Oly at least.
Quote: I've never seen "roadmap concept" of selling products that do not exist for sale today or tomorrow until I added pentax 6 years ago. Words to describe unspec'd priduct at unlisted prices to be offered at somepoint in the future maybe:
"All Subject To Change"
You sound like someone was taking money from your pocket for something that doesn't exist. Besides with that attitude I guess you've never seen a concept car that brought some design changes for the future mass produced models, huh?
Quote: I used to believe the Roadmap Concept. Take a lens like 60-250 SDM which makes me believe otherwise now. 1.4x SDM TC now suffers the same fate:
Yep, Pentax will be forever bashed for 2 things: poor qc in initial batches of DA*16-50 and the delay of the DA* 60-250. Somehow you strike me as a Sigma or Tamron kind of guy and hence you have no DA* whatsoever why does this bother you?
Quote: Pentax Roadmap? Easier said Than Done.
Yep, you should know the best that talk is cheap ... you're the king of that.
Quote: And lets say $10,000 is the 645D price, in today's imaging world that could be Two D700 or Two 5D Mark II or Two Sony A900 and a few key lenses. Don't most pro's have a back up camera onhand, ready to go? And lets be real, right now in USA $10,638.30 is 1 Million Yen actually. A few weeks ago 1 Million Yen in USA was $11,494.25. Whats a Million Yen cost in your currency? What kinda of prices will the D700, 5D2, or Sony A900 or their improved upon replacement cameras be at by late 2010? Its tough comparing equiptment thats available for sale today to roadmapped products that no one has reviewed or proven or even officially priced.
That all said, the leak stating a price point of less than $10,000 is a head turner. Too bad pentax aren't selling 645D today in global marketplace, sounds like a very competetive price point. In the meantime I guess we'll continue to get some cool looking colored plastic aps-c dslr limited editions.... well again, for Japan Homemarket to talk about.
1) the target price is 1M Yen how many USD would that mean in 2010 is not Pentax's problem;
2) again and again you judge comparatively the prices in the US. Not a bad thing for you but unreal for the most of us from Europe, Asia, Australia and the rest of the world. C, N and in a lesser degree S have significantly lower gear prices for the US market than the Europe (VAT excluded);
3) you can also buy a car or 50 point and shots or whatever with 1M Yen but this has as little relevance as your reasoning. It's about the same as comparing how many K20Ds can you buy for the price of a FF camera. The whole point is IF YOU NEED WHAT YOUR MONEY WILL BUY ABOVE THE OTHER LESSER OFFER (RESOLUTION, DR FOR EXAMPLE) AND DON'T MIND THE DRAWBACKS (LESS PORTABLE, PROBABLY MUCH SLOWER) OR DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT YOU HAVE THE CHOICE. For a guy who bolsters his FF cameras on a multi-daily basis I thought you understood at least that;
4) Again the price is not 10K USD
5) Well WE WILL continue to get some "cool looking colored plastic aps-c dslr limited editions" and my bet is that you'll continue to get C and N gear at bargain prices.
Radu