Would you buy a Pentax P&S with APS-C sensor?

NorthPentax · 03-31-2009, 07:05 AM

Why don't Pentax make a P&S with:
-APS-C sensor (CMOS 14,5Mp)
-28-30mm f/2.8 prime (around 42-45mm in FF)
-RAW/DNG options

Something like the new Sigma DP-2
I have have Sigma SD-14 and are probably going to buy DP-2(when I want a new P&S).

Would you buy a Pentax P&S with APS-C sensor?

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Art Vandelay II · 03-31-2009, 07:09 AM

As long as it is small enough to squeeze into a pocket (think Canon G10 size or slightly larger) then sure. It would also have to have a 3 step zoom lens, something like a 28-40-60mm. I love primes, but only if I can take one off and replace it with another. If it's just a fixed lens like the Sigma DP1 then I'll just wait on Oly's m4/3's concept.

eurostar · 03-31-2009, 07:31 AM

1x zoom? You mean a prime?

eurostar · 03-31-2009, 07:35 AM

I would gladly buy an APS-C point and shot if it would be very compact, like a Minox GT , with a 24/2,8 collapsible fixed focal lenght. It should be fvully compatible with accessories from the reflex line, like flashes and remotes, and have some sort of filter thread, fixed or removable, to use the camera with filters but also adapters for digiscoping. And a inexpensive underwater housing.

whatever7 · 03-31-2009, 10:03 AM

If its cheaper than DP1, sure.

Zav · 03-31-2009, 10:19 AM

If it's more reactive than a DP1 and have a limited class lens, sure!

kenyee · 03-31-2009, 10:27 AM

A Panny LX3 w/ APS-C sensor? Yes. Gotta have manual controls and a hotshoe and a decent lens in front. Street pricepoint of $400 ($500 max).

er1kksen · 03-31-2009, 12:30 PM

I'll put in my vote as a yes. I've been asking for a digital reincarnation of the Olympus XA for a long time, but if pentax delivers it first, all the better, since it could then maybe get the K20D chip.

séamuis · 03-31-2009, 12:36 PM

yes, I would likely purchase one to replace my mothers Optio M40. I have been thinking about upgrading hers, and an APS-C based P&S would be great. as long as it stays as small as possible. I am currently looking at the Optio P70.

Kei · 03-31-2009, 04:35 PM

I will definitely be drooling over a compact DC like this. Better yet make it 2 models. The top model uses the same sensor as the K20d, then the cheaper one uses the K10d/K200d/K-m CCD @ 10mp. And don't forget the SMC for the lens!

This will be perfect camera for those "no dslr allowed" events. I feel like cheating using such a camera in a sea of tiny sensor P&S....

NorthPentax · 03-31-2009, 09:48 PM

Sigma DP2 dimensions: 113.3mm/4.5"(W)×59.5mm/2.3"(H)×56.1mm/2.2"(D)
Weight 260g/9.2oz. (excluding batteries and card)

Sigmas size is okey.

How big/small is Pentax marketshare in the P&S market? Worse % than their dSLR marketshare?

Bophoto · 04-01-2009, 12:44 AM

Use a modified DA21, so it´s closer to sensor.
And make the lens like in Optio cameras, then you turn off the camera
the lens goes inside the camera by sliding the glass to the side...
Then the camera can be under 30-35mm deep(Sigma are 56mm)..

soccerjoe5 · 04-01-2009, 01:25 AM

I would! Put a 30mm-ish (FF-equivalent) on it please

rparmar · 04-01-2009, 04:15 AM

The Panasonic LX3 is $450. A version with a better (larger) sensor would be proportionally more... and bigger. Not sure if I'd buy this until I saw exactly how expensive and how large it would be.

mattdm · 04-01-2009, 04:44 AM

It depends if the lineage is more K-series dSLR or more Optio point & shoot. The latter are quite underwhelming in image quality, performance, and (except for weather-sealing) features.

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03-31-2009, 07:09 AM	#2
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	As long as it is small enough to squeeze into a pocket (think Canon G10 size or slightly larger) then sure. It would also have to have a 3 step zoom lens, something like a 28-40-60mm. I love primes, but only if I can take one off and replace it with another. If it's just a fixed lens like the Sigma DP1 then I'll just wait on Oly's m4/3's concept.

03-31-2009, 07:31 AM	#3
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	1x zoom? You mean a prime?

03-31-2009, 07:35 AM	#4
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	I would gladly buy an APS-C point and shot if it would be very compact, like a Minox GT , with a 24/2,8 collapsible fixed focal lenght. It should be fvully compatible with accessories from the reflex line, like flashes and remotes, and have some sort of filter thread, fixed or removable, to use the camera with filters but also adapters for digiscoping. And a inexpensive underwater housing.

03-31-2009, 10:03 AM	#5
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	If its cheaper than DP1, sure.

03-31-2009, 10:19 AM	#6
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,364	If it's more reactive than a DP1 and have a limited class lens, sure!

03-31-2009, 10:27 AM	#7
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,027	A Panny LX3 w/ APS-C sensor? Yes. Gotta have manual controls and a hotshoe and a decent lens in front. Street pricepoint of $400 ($500 max).

03-31-2009, 12:30 PM	#8
er1kksen Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,731	I'll put in my vote as a yes. I've been asking for a digital reincarnation of the Olympus XA for a long time, but if pentax delivers it first, all the better, since it could then maybe get the K20D chip.

03-31-2009, 12:36 PM	#9
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	yes, I would likely purchase one to replace my mothers Optio M40. I have been thinking about upgrading hers, and an APS-C based P&S would be great. as long as it stays as small as possible. I am currently looking at the Optio P70.

03-31-2009, 04:35 PM	#10
Kei Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 207	I will definitely be drooling over a compact DC like this. Better yet make it 2 models. The top model uses the same sensor as the K20d, then the cheaper one uses the K10d/K200d/K-m CCD @ 10mp. And don't forget the SMC for the lens! This will be perfect camera for those "no dslr allowed" events. I feel like cheating using such a camera in a sea of tiny sensor P&S....

03-31-2009, 09:48 PM	#11
NorthPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: No(r)way Photos: Gallery Posts: 179 Original Poster	Sigma DP2 dimensions: 113.3mm/4.5"(W)×59.5mm/2.3"(H)×56.1mm/2.2"(D) Weight 260g/9.2oz. (excluding batteries and card) Sigmas size is okey. How big/small is Pentax marketshare in the P&S market? Worse % than their dSLR marketshare?

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04-01-2009, 12:44 AM	#12
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Use a modified DA21, so it´s closer to sensor. And make the lens like in Optio cameras, then you turn off the camera the lens goes inside the camera by sliding the glass to the side... Then the camera can be under 30-35mm deep(Sigma are 56mm)..

04-01-2009, 01:25 AM	#13
soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	I would! Put a 30mm-ish (FF-equivalent) on it please

04-01-2009, 04:15 AM	#14
rparmar Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,780	The Panasonic LX3 is $450. A version with a better (larger) sensor would be proportionally more... and bigger. Not sure if I'd buy this until I saw exactly how expensive and how large it would be.

04-01-2009, 04:44 AM	#15
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	It depends if the lineage is more K-series dSLR or more Optio point & shoot. The latter are quite underwhelming in image quality, performance, and (except for weather-sealing) features.