Will pentax compete w/ this freshly leaked: Articulated viewscreen DSLR

Samsungian · 04-06-2009, 12:07 PM

MAN, This is one feature on a camera I want. I've never had an articulated viewscreen camera and I'd enjoy having this feature. Nikon likely officially leaked these considering the numerous view angles I've seen this morning.

I hope Pentax adds an articulated viewscreen to their K20D replacement. It would give me a BIG reason to consider it. Go ahead Pentax add an Articulated viewscreen & put two card slots in K30D and call it PRO-BODY. Seems easier to do than dusting off the 645D to target a few hundred pros, No?

http://nikonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dbk_0661.jpg

Taken from:

More spy shots | Nikon Rumors

Taken from this site:

http://nikonrumors.com/

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Ratmagiclady · 04-06-2009, 12:35 PM

Not something I personally care about, ....just adds bulk and is a vulnerable part. Maybe if they came up with a really great live view that didn't compromise elsewhere, it'd be more worth it.

Slowpoke Rodriguez · 04-06-2009, 02:16 PM

I would like to see this feature added to a Pentax DSLR. A few years back I had a Panasonic FZ-30 which had an articulating LCD and I thought it was useful. It is nice for taking candid shots. You can hold the camera at waist level and flip the LCD for framing and people don't feel the need to pose. Thus, it's similar to shooting a TLR.

jeffkrol · 04-06-2009, 02:29 PM

Wireless transmission to a small monitor attached to my glasses...

Articulated viewfinder is so passe.....

Of course tethered liveview is still too slow for most things but for ground macros, speed is not necessary...
Actually this is something (wireless) Samsung could help with....

**monochrome** · 04-06-2009, 02:32 PM

My Oly E20N had this feature and, frankly, it was only useful on a tripod.

But on a tripod it was very useful.

Art Vandelay II · 04-06-2009, 02:39 PM

Nikon definitely needs to improve their live view experience if they want an articulating LCD to be useful. I assume they added it it make video recording easier. I've said it before, but I couldn't imagine trying to record video with an SLR without a rotating LCD. It would be a miserable experience.

That said, as a former Canon G2 owner, bring on the articulating LCD's! I still suffer from withdrawals and I haven't used that Canon in 2 years.

kenyee · 04-06-2009, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

Wireless transmission to a small monitor attached to my glasses...

Funny thing is Nikon demo'd this recently. Guess it's not ready for prime time or they wouldn't have released this articulated LCD

For Pentax, the issue will be weatherproofing. Moving parts like this are hard to weatherproof...

Samsungian · 04-06-2009, 03:11 PM

Hey Ken, check this out:

"• 2.5-inch Dual-axis, Free-angle LCD Display
The 2.5" Live View HyperCrystal LCD provides many times the contrast of conventional LCD monitors and a resolution of approximately 230,000 pixels for easier viewing in both preview and playback. It also provides a wide viewing angle of 170 degrees, which ensures images can be composed from even the most obscure angles, and its 360-degree articulation, makes composition and image viewing possible at any angle. Furthermore, the LCD provides magnification of the subject by a factor of up to 10 times, enabling users to confirm sharp, pinpoint focus. "

Olympus | E-3 SLR Digital Camera (Camera Body) | 262010 | B&H

Originally posted by kenyee

Funny thing is Nikon demo'd this recently. Guess it's not ready for prime time or they wouldn't have released this articulated LCD

For Pentax, the issue will be weatherproofing. Moving parts like this are hard to weatherproof...

jeffkrol · 04-06-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by kenyee

Funny thing is Nikon demo'd this recently. Guess it's not ready for prime time or they wouldn't have released this articulated LCD

For Pentax, the issue will be weatherproofing. Moving parts like this are hard to weatherproof...

The lcd reticule attached to the glasses seems to be easily sealed, and a sealed camera completes the picture...
Yes an articulated screen is a tad tougher... I'll have to find the Nikon demo... They do have some things Pentax REALLY should emulate... much more than Canon.

1999 for gosh sakes... and where is it besides in the military?
BBC News | SCI/TECH | Japan eyes wearable PC

Cambo · 04-06-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

The lcd reticule attached to the glasses seems to be easily sealed, and a sealed camera completes the picture...
Yes an articulated screen is a tad tougher... I'll have to find the Nikon demo... They do have some things Pentax REALLY should emulate... much more than Canon.

1999 for gosh sakes... and where is it besides in the military?
BBC News | SCI/TECH | Japan eyes wearable PC

Betcha the boys at Canon and at Microsoft have been studying that little baby for years...

Cheers,
Cameron

jeffkrol · 04-06-2009, 05:01 PM

Almost as long as it took for the 60-250.........
Friday, 26 November, 1999, 14:18 GMT
Japan eyes wearable PC: On Friday, Japanese camera-maker Olympus and IBM Japan revealed a prototype of a wearable PC.
............Mr Murakami said the companies would decide next year when to launch the computer.

Ratmagiclady · 04-06-2009, 05:03 PM

Actually, though, for gadgetry, I always thought that when they do get turbo liveview, what would be really cool would be like a shoe-mountable, call it a 'Super-finder' which would be based on a plug-in LCD with like a TLR viewer and magnifier, sports-finder, WLF, 45 degree finder, whatever you like.

Then you wouldn't have to lug it around unless you were using it.

It'd also mean you wouldn't have to hold your camera out so far to use an LCD. Steadier that way.

vinzer · 04-06-2009, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Actually, though, for gadgetry, I always thought that when they do get turbo liveview, what would be really cool would be like a shoe-mountable, call it a 'Super-finder' which would be based on a plug-in LCD with like a TLR viewer and magnifier, sports-finder, WLF, 45 degree finder, whatever you like.

Then you wouldn't have to lug it around unless you were using it.

It'd also mean you wouldn't have to hold your camera out so far to use an LCD. Steadier that way.

There's the Zigview, but it mounts to the viewfinder. Close enough to the hotshoe, though.

jeffkrol · 04-06-2009, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Actually, though, for gadgetry, I always thought that when they do get turbo liveview, what would be really cool would be like a shoe-mountable, call it a 'Super-finder' which would be based on a plug-in LCD with like a TLR viewer and magnifier, sports-finder, WLF, 45 degree finder, whatever you like.

Then you wouldn't have to lug it around unless you were using it.

It'd also mean you wouldn't have to hold your camera out so far to use an LCD. Steadier that way.

They make an eye piece mountable one but last I looked it was like $350US (corrected $399 BUT free shipping

).. Can't remember the name of it and I believe it was low res... and not as "super-duper"

as you'd like.
Here it is....

ZigView S2 Bundles - Digital SLR Real Time Rotatable LCD Viewfinder Screen

Ohhh.. getting closer ... wireless.........but unfortunately.. NO PENTAX MODEL.. not that I'd pay that much so I wouldn't have to kneel..

http://www.proviewsite.com/index.html

Where the heck are the Chinese manuf. when you need them...........

knochelbiter · 04-06-2009, 07:01 PM

After a careful study of the picture I'm still apathetic about an articulated view screen...

But now I'm considering the purchase of a sash and riding boots...

04-06-2009, 12:07 PM	#1
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	Will pentax compete w/ this freshly leaked: Articulated viewscreen DSLR MAN, This is one feature on a camera I want. I've never had an articulated viewscreen camera and I'd enjoy having this feature. Nikon likely officially leaked these considering the numerous view angles I've seen this morning. I hope Pentax adds an articulated viewscreen to their K20D replacement. It would give me a BIG reason to consider it. Go ahead Pentax add an Articulated viewscreen & put two card slots in K30D and call it PRO-BODY. Seems easier to do than dusting off the 645D to target a few hundred pros, No? http://nikonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dbk_0661.jpg Taken from: More spy shots \| Nikon Rumors Taken from this site: http://nikonrumors.com/ Last edited by Samsungian; 04-06-2009 at 12:13 PM. Reason: added 2nd link, & 3rd link

04-06-2009, 02:29 PM	#4
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	What I'm waiting for...... Wireless transmission to a small monitor attached to my glasses... Articulated viewfinder is so passe..... Of course tethered liveview is still too slow for most things but for ground macros, speed is not necessary... Actually this is something (wireless) Samsung could help with....

04-06-2009, 03:11 PM	#8
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337 Original Poster	Last year's Olympus E3 has weathersealed articulating viewscreen... Hey Ken, check this out: "• 2.5-inch Dual-axis, Free-angle LCD Display The 2.5" Live View HyperCrystal LCD provides many times the contrast of conventional LCD monitors and a resolution of approximately 230,000 pixels for easier viewing in both preview and playback. It also provides a wide viewing angle of 170 degrees, which ensures images can be composed from even the most obscure angles, and its 360-degree articulation, makes composition and image viewing possible at any angle. Furthermore, the LCD provides magnification of the subject by a factor of up to 10 times, enabling users to confirm sharp, pinpoint focus. " Olympus \| E-3 SLR Digital Camera (Camera Body) \| 262010 \| B&H Originally posted by kenyee Funny thing is Nikon demo'd this recently. Guess it's not ready for prime time or they wouldn't have released this articulated LCD For Pentax, the issue will be weatherproofing. Moving parts like this are hard to weatherproof...

04-06-2009, 03:59 PM	#9
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by kenyee Funny thing is Nikon demo'd this recently. Guess it's not ready for prime time or they wouldn't have released this articulated LCD For Pentax, the issue will be weatherproofing. Moving parts like this are hard to weatherproof... The lcd reticule attached to the glasses seems to be easily sealed, and a sealed camera completes the picture... Yes an articulated screen is a tad tougher... I'll have to find the Nikon demo... They do have some things Pentax REALLY should emulate... much more than Canon. 1999 for gosh sakes... and where is it besides in the military? BBC News \| SCI/TECH \| Japan eyes wearable PC Last edited by jeffkrol; 04-06-2009 at 04:49 PM.

04-06-2009, 04:53 PM	#10
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	Now THERE'S some fine ergonomics... Originally posted by jeffkrol The lcd reticule attached to the glasses seems to be easily sealed, and a sealed camera completes the picture... Yes an articulated screen is a tad tougher... I'll have to find the Nikon demo... They do have some things Pentax REALLY should emulate... much more than Canon. 1999 for gosh sakes... and where is it besides in the military? BBC News \| SCI/TECH \| Japan eyes wearable PC Betcha the boys at Canon and at Microsoft have been studying that little baby for years... Cheers, Cameron

04-06-2009, 12:35 PM	#2
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Not something I personally care about, ....just adds bulk and is a vulnerable part. Maybe if they came up with a really great live view that didn't compromise elsewhere, it'd be more worth it.

04-06-2009, 02:16 PM	#3
Slowpoke Rodriguez Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Alexandria, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 100	I would like to see this feature added to a Pentax DSLR. A few years back I had a Panasonic FZ-30 which had an articulating LCD and I thought it was useful. It is nice for taking candid shots. You can hold the camera at waist level and flip the LCD for framing and people don't feel the need to pose. Thus, it's similar to shooting a TLR.

04-06-2009, 02:32 PM	#5
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	My Oly E20N had this feature and, frankly, it was only useful on a tripod. But on a tripod it was very useful.

04-06-2009, 02:39 PM	#6
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	Nikon definitely needs to improve their live view experience if they want an articulating LCD to be useful. I assume they added it it make video recording easier. I've said it before, but I couldn't imagine trying to record video with an SLR without a rotating LCD. It would be a miserable experience. That said, as a former Canon G2 owner, bring on the articulating LCD's! I still suffer from withdrawals and I haven't used that Canon in 2 years.

04-06-2009, 03:02 PM	#7
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by jeffkrol Wireless transmission to a small monitor attached to my glasses... Funny thing is Nikon demo'd this recently. Guess it's not ready for prime time or they wouldn't have released this articulated LCD For Pentax, the issue will be weatherproofing. Moving parts like this are hard to weatherproof...

04-06-2009, 05:01 PM	#11
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	He He Almost as long as it took for the 60-250......... Friday, 26 November, 1999, 14:18 GMT Japan eyes wearable PC: On Friday, Japanese camera-maker Olympus and IBM Japan revealed a prototype of a wearable PC. ............Mr Murakami said the companies would decide next year when to launch the computer.

04-06-2009, 05:03 PM	#12
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Actually, though, for gadgetry, I always thought that when they do get turbo liveview, what would be really cool would be like a shoe-mountable, call it a 'Super-finder' which would be based on a plug-in LCD with like a TLR viewer and magnifier, sports-finder, WLF, 45 degree finder, whatever you like. Then you wouldn't have to lug it around unless you were using it. It'd also mean you wouldn't have to hold your camera out so far to use an LCD. Steadier that way. Last edited by Ratmagiclady; 04-06-2009 at 05:08 PM.

04-06-2009, 06:02 PM	#13
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Actually, though, for gadgetry, I always thought that when they do get turbo liveview, what would be really cool would be like a shoe-mountable, call it a 'Super-finder' which would be based on a plug-in LCD with like a TLR viewer and magnifier, sports-finder, WLF, 45 degree finder, whatever you like. Then you wouldn't have to lug it around unless you were using it. It'd also mean you wouldn't have to hold your camera out so far to use an LCD. Steadier that way. There's the Zigview, but it mounts to the viewfinder. Close enough to the hotshoe, though.

04-06-2009, 06:05 PM	#14
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Actually, though, for gadgetry, I always thought that when they do get turbo liveview, what would be really cool would be like a shoe-mountable, call it a 'Super-finder' which would be based on a plug-in LCD with like a TLR viewer and magnifier, sports-finder, WLF, 45 degree finder, whatever you like. Then you wouldn't have to lug it around unless you were using it. It'd also mean you wouldn't have to hold your camera out so far to use an LCD. Steadier that way. They make an eye piece mountable one but last I looked it was like $350US (corrected $399 BUT free shipping ).. Can't remember the name of it and I believe it was low res... and not as "super-duper" as you'd like. Here it is.... ZigView S2 Bundles - Digital SLR Real Time Rotatable LCD Viewfinder Screen Ohhh.. getting closer ... wireless.........but unfortunately.. NO PENTAX MODEL.. not that I'd pay that much so I wouldn't have to kneel.. http://www.proviewsite.com/index.html Where the heck are the Chinese manuf. when you need them........... Last edited by jeffkrol; 04-06-2009 at 07:12 PM.

04-06-2009, 07:01 PM	#15
knochelbiter Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC. Posts: 89	After a careful study of the picture I'm still apathetic about an articulated view screen... But now I'm considering the purchase of a sash and riding boots...

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