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05-10-2009, 04:06 AM   #2116
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QuoteOriginally posted by RMabo Quote
And the "newer than the new K" body is like a K7 with K200D ergonomics, that is - fewer buttons and dials and a more beginner friendly user interface. It fills up the gap between the K7 and the K-m. It is sort of K20D with a simplified user interface in a more compact body. (similar body as the K7). You know the K10D and K100D that were combined into the K200d, and with a performance upgrade... Same thing happening again.
That sounds incredibly plausible.

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QuoteOriginally posted by melander Quote
nice to see a WR kit lens, that have been what the reviewers in sweden have been bashing

"its not better than its weekest link, why have a weather sealed body when you dont got a weather sealed lens"
But it has been possible to get weather sealed lenses for the K200D - just open up the wallet a little bit more.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RMabo Quote
But it has been possible to get weather sealed lenses for the K200D - just open up the wallet a little bit more.
Sure. You can buy something like this and make it virtually indestructable...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mike.P® Quote
Interesting lens.

Like I said in another thread, daddy needs a cheaper weather-sealed lens. Thanks for getting my spirits up! I hope they make that available as soon as possible as a stand-alone lens. I'm ready to pony up for that and a sealed 55-200 kit lens. Here's hoping both will come at or under $500 in total.

I reckon I'm not the only one, too. There are many K10/200/20D users out there that will benefit from that.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RMabo Quote
But it has been possible to get weather sealed lenses for the K200D - just open up the wallet a little bit more.
It's not a "little bit" for my current financial state.

Anyway, at least Pentax intends to follow through with the precedent they set with the K200D, which is weather-sealed combos at lower price points. I had thought Olympus would get there first, seeing how their 14-54 is sealed and widely available for $400 (at least the 1st version). They only needed the body for it. Now Pentax will beat them to the punch, with the K-7 in tow for high end and the K20D available at low prices, with K200D stocks still available in some stores. Here's guessing those new WR kit lenses will help sell a few more K20D and K200D bodies than expected.
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Yes, if Pentax offers a sealed 18-55 + 55-200 kit for $500, then they are going to sell a boatload to existing users.

I wouldn't be surprised if sealing these lenses would cost Pentax less than it costs Canon and Nikon to put AF and IS motors in their kit lenses. In-body mechanisms really make so much more sense, at least for small lenses.

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I don't know about you guys. I wouldn't use a $1500+ camera body (K-7) in the rain. It's not worth the risk. Plus what can you shot if its raining hard?

But I can rock a K200D, or maybe just get a used DS. Put a rain jacket on and I can save the money on a DA* weather seal lens. Iff the DS stop working no big lose.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Prognathous Quote
Yes, if Pentax offers a sealed 18-55 + 55-200 kit for $500, then they are going to sell a boatload to existing users.

I wouldn't be surprised if sealing these lenses would cost Pentax less than it costs Canon and Nikon to put AF and IS motors in their kit lenses. In-body mechanisms really make so much more sense, at least for small lenses.

Prog.
I agree 100%. On top of that, I hope it creates a trend for Pentax lenses. I would love to see Tamron producing a water-sealed 18-270 for K-mount.

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I've certainly shot with my K10D in the rain more than once, and it's been a non-issue.

There are certain places (such as Olympic Nat'l Park's Hoh Rain Forest) where if you're not shooting in the rain at some point, you're just not shooting
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latest cut and paste from another forum..

像倍率…1.0倍 視野率95%

長時間露光時…NRオフ設定可能

外装…マグネシウム合金

AFセンサー…全くの新規

連写…5コマ超8コマ未満

バッテリー…新規 互換性なし

フォーカスブラケット…なし

仙台会場開催前に発売…6月中旬

動画有り


上記の他に他社にない全く新しい機能を搭載

これは写真好き、カメラ好きが泣きそうな機能とか…

ペンタックスだからできる新機能だそうです。

他社には真似出来ないとか…

布石はK10Dから打ってあるらしいのがヒントですね…

この機能が今回一番のサプライズだそうで

センサーもかなり改良が入ってる模様です。

and the attempted translation from the author (imatom)..

OK, I tried.
-------------
Viewfinder
Magnification 1.0
Frame coverage 95%

Long Exposure ... NR Off enable/disable
Material ... Magnesium Alloy Chassis
AF sensor ... New type
Continuous shooting ... 5~8fps
Power... New type Li
No focus bracketting
Available from mid June
Movie ... yes

Other new feature
Every photographer will cry for the feature.
Only Pentax make it. Other maker could not do it.

Hint ... from K10D idea
This feature is the most surprise of K-7

CCD sensor improved a lot of ...
05-10-2009, 07:11 AM   #2126
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
It also confirms the permanent ISO display.
I don't think that's necessarily permanent ISO. The K20D allows for this to be custom switched between ISO and remaining shots. I keep it on ISO.
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QuoteOriginally posted by whatever7 Quote
I don't know about you guys. I wouldn't use a $1500+ camera body (K-7) in the rain. It's not worth the risk. Plus what can you shot if its raining hard?

But I can rock a K200D, or maybe just get a used DS. Put a rain jacket on and I can save the money on a DA* weather seal lens. Iff the DS stop working no big lose.
When someone need a camera in the rain, the price doesn't matter anyway!
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QuoteOriginally posted by laissezfaire Quote
I don't think that's necessarily permanent ISO. The K20D allows for this to be custom switched between ISO and remaining shots. I keep it on ISO.
No, the K-7 shows both.

See: http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/therapsid/1/i-2.jpg
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n-th hand rumour

Those are n-th hand rumour from an Japanese forum, just.

Forget about it, it will give you no new and solid information.

QuoteOriginally posted by mcjm78 Quote
latest cut and paste from another forum..

像倍率…1.0倍 視野率95%

長時間露光時…NRオフ設定可能

外装…マグネシウム合金

AFセンサー…全くの新規

連写…5コマ超8コマ未満

バッテリー…新規 互換性なし

フォーカスブラケット…なし

仙台会場開催前に発売…6月中旬

動画有り


上記の他に他社にない全く新しい機能を搭載

これは写真好き、カメラ好きが泣きそうな機能とか…

ペンタックスだからできる新機能だそうです。

他社には真似出来ないとか…

布石はK10Dから打ってあるらしいのがヒントですね…

この機能が今回一番のサプライズだそうで

センサーもかなり改良が入ってる模様です。

and the attempted translation from the author (imatom)..

OK, I tried.
-------------
Viewfinder
Magnification 1.0
Frame coverage 95%

Long Exposure ... NR Off enable/disable
Material ... Magnesium Alloy Chassis
AF sensor ... New type
Continuous shooting ... 5~8fps
Power... New type Li
No focus bracketting
Available from mid June
Movie ... yes

Other new feature
Every photographer will cry for the feature.
Only Pentax make it. Other maker could not do it.

Hint ... from K10D idea
This feature is the most surprise of K-7

CCD sensor improved a lot of ...
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I don't think it's genuine, even if several items are probably true. This, assuming the translation is accurate.
I mean, 8fps? A Pentax? No chance in h*ll!
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