is this pic of K30D?

Mike.P® · 05-11-2009, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by nosnoop

Just hope that contrast AF works during movie mode, it manages to reduce CMOS wobble and it has full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and ISO for movie mode.

Is it even 100% the camera has contrast AF?

nosnoop · 05-11-2009, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

Is it even 100% the camera has contrast AF?

I think it is almost certain now. With a dedicated LV button (and not hidden and needs to be enabled in the menu), and the talk about ?77 AF zones...

Priyantha Bleeker · 05-11-2009, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by ryan s

That doesn't make sense.

Well I think it won't be 1080p, but it will be 1080i

1080p and 1080i are two different 'format's.
The 1080i is the standard video signal for HD televisions, the 'i' stands for interlaced.
The 1080p is the highest quality for HD televisions, the 'p' stands for 'progressive scan'.

So 1080i is the 'lighter' variant so it should be easier to implement ?

Mike.P® · 05-11-2009, 12:11 AM

I am really hoping this camera is not a big letdown after all the hype surrounding it. Anything less than a D300 beater with video is going to upset a lot of people ... and the daft thing is Pentax have not released a single spec yet.

Fingers crossed.

nosnoop · 05-11-2009, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by Priyantha Bleeker

Well I think it won't be 1080p, but it will be 1080i

Various people have mentioned no 1080, i or p... sorry.

Priyantha Bleeker · 05-11-2009, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by nosnoop

Various people have mentioned no 1080, i or p... sorry.

Mmm that's a pity

Well maybe than 720p like the Nikon's D90

zntgrg · 05-11-2009, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by CaymanImaging

Who the hell gives two shi*s about video??????? This is a camera, not a video camera. Not to mention a "pro" DSLR. I could careless. As a pro I want something that taks great photos not videos.

This makes sense if you think video as "soccer mom with cheap camcoder" blurry, shaky, awful, boring. But video with SLR lenses is more on the Hollywood side of things, it will expand our artistic possibilities.

Sensor cleaning, that's a gimmick

RiceHigh · 05-11-2009, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by Priyantha Bleeker

Well I think it won't be 1080p, but it will be 1080i

1080p and 1080i are two different 'format's.
The 1080i is the standard video signal for HD televisions, the 'i' stands for interlaced.
The 1080p is the highest quality for HD televisions, the 'p' stands for 'progressive scan'.

So 1080i is the 'lighter' variant so it should be easier to implement ?

Actually, the frame rate should also be looked together!

1080i at 50Hz is no difference from 1080p at 25Hz - they just scan the lines in different orders!

A 1080i/50Hz video signal still gives you 25 complete frames per second in 1080 scan lines. For 1080i/60Hz, it has 30 fps.

So, if we have 1080p at 24 fps or even 20 fps for a video-capable DSLR, it is just very slightly worse than a traditional 1080i video picture displayed at 50Hz, say, through a component video signal cables and a display panel.

zntgrg · 05-11-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Actually, the frame rate should also be looked together!

1080i at 50Hz is no difference from 1080p at 25Hz - they just scan the lines in different orders!

A 1080i/50Hz video signal still gives you 25 complete frames per second in 1080 scan lines. For 1080i/60Hz, it has 30 fps.

So, if we have 1080p at 24 fps or even 20 fps for a video-capable DSLR, it is just very slightly worse than a traditional 1080i video picture displayed at 50Hz, say, through a component video signal cables and a display panel.

Actually 1024p exists, i think it's only an aspect ratio thing.
High Definition Video

RiceHigh · 05-11-2009, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by zntgrg

Actually 1024p exists, i think it's only an aspect ratio thing.
High Definition Video

1024p/i is a 4:3 format whilst 1080p/i is a 16:9, which is the current popular video standard, even for HDTV broadcasting.

Again, the aspect ratio has nothing to do with the refresh rate of the *whole frame*, which can only be known and compared by *both* the scanning mode (progressive or interlacing) *and* the scanning rate in Hz.

ogl · 05-11-2009, 01:16 AM

K-7 is Pentax's mixed version of D2X/D200/E3 with video, with strongest weather resist, smallest and lightest semi-pro APS-C.

RiceHigh · 05-11-2009, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by ogl

K-7 is Pentax's mixed version of D2X/D200/E3 with video, with strongest weather resist, smallest and lightest semi-pro APS-C.

Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D

Priyantha Bleeker · 05-11-2009, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D

Haha that would be great

Steelski · 05-11-2009, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D

Well, It kind of is.
Its very rugged like the D3X
High Res.
Video.
Around the same framerate.
Big viewfinder
But all in a smaller package and with cheaper lenses.

ogl · 05-11-2009, 01:52 AM

PAY ATTENTION!
K-7 has HIGHER lever of WEATHER RESIST than K10D/K20D.

05-11-2009, 12:53 AM	#2198
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	It doesn't matter alone! Originally posted by Priyantha Bleeker Well I think it won't be 1080p, but it will be 1080i 1080p and 1080i are two different 'format's. The 1080i is the standard video signal for HD televisions, the 'i' stands for interlaced. The 1080p is the highest quality for HD televisions, the 'p' stands for 'progressive scan'. So 1080i is the 'lighter' variant so it should be easier to implement ? Actually, the frame rate should also be looked together! 1080i at 50Hz is no difference from 1080p at 25Hz - they just scan the lines in different orders! A 1080i/50Hz video signal still gives you 25 complete frames per second in 1080 scan lines. For 1080i/60Hz, it has 30 fps. So, if we have 1080p at 24 fps or even 20 fps for a video-capable DSLR, it is just very slightly worse than a traditional 1080i video picture displayed at 50Hz, say, through a component video signal cables and a display panel.

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05-11-2009, 12:02 AM	#2191
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by nosnoop Just hope that contrast AF works during movie mode, it manages to reduce CMOS wobble and it has full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and ISO for movie mode. Is it even 100% the camera has contrast AF?

05-11-2009, 12:05 AM	#2192
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by Mike.P® Is it even 100% the camera has contrast AF? I think it is almost certain now. With a dedicated LV button (and not hidden and needs to be enabled in the menu), and the talk about ?77 AF zones...

05-11-2009, 12:10 AM	#2193
Priyantha Bleeker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 190	Originally posted by ryan s That doesn't make sense. Well I think it won't be 1080p, but it will be 1080i 1080p and 1080i are two different 'format's. The 1080i is the standard video signal for HD televisions, the 'i' stands for interlaced. The 1080p is the highest quality for HD televisions, the 'p' stands for 'progressive scan'. So 1080i is the 'lighter' variant so it should be easier to implement ?

05-11-2009, 12:11 AM	#2194
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	I am really hoping this camera is not a big letdown after all the hype surrounding it. Anything less than a D300 beater with video is going to upset a lot of people ... and the daft thing is Pentax have not released a single spec yet. Fingers crossed.

05-11-2009, 12:14 AM	#2195
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by Priyantha Bleeker Well I think it won't be 1080p, but it will be 1080i Various people have mentioned no 1080, i or p... sorry.

05-11-2009, 12:18 AM	#2196
Priyantha Bleeker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 190	Originally posted by nosnoop Various people have mentioned no 1080, i or p... sorry. Mmm that's a pity Well maybe than 720p like the Nikon's D90

05-11-2009, 12:52 AM	#2197
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Originally posted by CaymanImaging Who the hell gives two shi*s about video??????? This is a camera, not a video camera. Not to mention a "pro" DSLR. I could careless. As a pro I want something that taks great photos not videos. This makes sense if you think video as "soccer mom with cheap camcoder" blurry, shaky, awful, boring. But video with SLR lenses is more on the Hollywood side of things, it will expand our artistic possibilities. Sensor cleaning, that's a gimmick

05-11-2009, 01:02 AM	#2199
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Originally posted by RiceHigh Actually, the frame rate should also be looked together! 1080i at 50Hz is no difference from 1080p at 25Hz - they just scan the lines in different orders! A 1080i/50Hz video signal still gives you 25 complete frames per second in 1080 scan lines. For 1080i/60Hz, it has 30 fps. So, if we have 1080p at 24 fps or even 20 fps for a video-capable DSLR, it is just very slightly worse than a traditional 1080i video picture displayed at 50Hz, say, through a component video signal cables and a display panel. Actually 1024p exists, i think it's only an aspect ratio thing. High Definition Video

05-11-2009, 01:11 AM	#2200
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Originally posted by zntgrg Actually 1024p exists, i think it's only an aspect ratio thing. High Definition Video 1024p/i is a 4:3 format whilst 1080p/i is a 16:9, which is the current popular video standard, even for HDTV broadcasting. Again, the aspect ratio has nothing to do with the refresh rate of the whole frame, which can only be known and compared by both the scanning mode (progressive or interlacing) and the scanning rate in Hz.

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ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	K-7 is Pentax's mixed version of D2X/D200/E3 with video, with strongest weather resist, smallest and lightest semi-pro APS-C.

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05-11-2009, 01:23 AM	#2202
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Originally posted by ogl K-7 is Pentax's mixed version of D2X/D200/E3 with video, with strongest weather resist, smallest and lightest semi-pro APS-C. Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D

05-11-2009, 01:40 AM	#2203
Priyantha Bleeker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 190	Originally posted by RiceHigh Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D Haha that would be great

05-11-2009, 01:45 AM	#2204
Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470	Originally posted by RiceHigh Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D Well, It kind of is. Its very rugged like the D3X High Res. Video. Around the same framerate. Big viewfinder But all in a smaller package and with cheaper lenses.

05-11-2009, 01:52 AM	#2205
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	PAY ATTENTION! K-7 has HIGHER lever of WEATHER RESIST than K10D/K20D.