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05-11-2009, 01:52 AM   #2206
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mike.P Quote
Is it even 100% the camera has contrast AF?
Yes it has, contrast AF and face detection. In LV and Movie mode.
BTW. Movie resolution is almost 1080p :-)

05-11-2009, 01:53 AM   #2207
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QuoteOriginally posted by RiceHigh Quote
Can it be a mixed version of 5D2 and D3X but just in APS-C format? ;-D
Maybe...But FF cameras is very heavy and big.
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PAY ATTENTION!
K-7 has HIGHER lever of WEATHER RESIST than K10D/K20D.
Really? Are you Sure? JIS Level 8? ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by zipser Quote
Yes it has, contrast AF and face detection. In LV and Movie mode.
BTW. Movie resolution is almost 1080p :-)
I hope the aspect ratio is mainstream then!

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QuoteOriginally posted by RiceHigh Quote
Actually, the frame rate should also be looked together!
Yes, but not all frame rates play back smoothly on all monitors.

E.g., it is known that 24fps content was converted to 60Hz for US DVDs, using a 3:2 pull-up (you show 3 x frame A, then 2 x frame B, to produce 2 60Hz frames).

In Europe and Japan, it was 1:1 pull-up for 50Hz DVDs (you show 1 x frame A, then 1 x frame B, to produce 2 48Hz frames, and accelerate by 4% to get 50Hz, also making the movie 4% shorter in Europe ).

It was only with the advent of HDTV that European and Japanese viewer got to see 60Hz content and completely rejected the stuttering from 3:2 pull-up which they haven't been used to.

So, the industry released the 1080p@24Hz specification to reproduce a global specification which would play back nicely everywhere.

Most monitors output it at 72Hz, some of them with intermediate generation of frames to minimize some flacker in panning action.


I think 24fps will become a universal standard for storage of video footage, now that it wouldn't make sense anymore to differentiate between US and Europe/Japan.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Maybe...But FF cameras is very heavy and big.
Yes, I must agree.

Do you guys know what is the lightest FF DSLRs ever made on this Planet? Well, they are the Canon 5D and 5D MkII - 810g without battery and card and it does not have a built-in flash!

But the K10/K20D are not much lighter and smaller but *just*!

So, as I have been saying since the K10D, Pentax should make smaller and lighter bodies, so that they could compete. And, it's the good old tradition and market differentiator to make small SLRs.

Well, the Hoya senior official finally said exactly the same thing as what I have been asking for years. And, most importantly, they finally have implemented and made a new body - the K-7.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
K-7 is Pentax's mixed version of D2X/D200/E3 with video, with strongest weather resist, smallest and lightest semi-pro APS-C.
Well...you are saying D2X and D200
So not D3(X) and D300 ?
So that means 11 points AF...the D2X and D200 AND the E3 have all three a 11 points AF system..the D2X has a AF system which is a tad better than the D200 but it is a lot worse than the newer ones.

Yes they are faster as the current Pentax AF, but the newer AF module found in the D3(X) and de D300 is much much better.....

The good news is that the D200,D2X and the E3 all three have a 1/8000sec.
The E3,D200 and the D2X have all three 5fps.
The D300 has 6fps and with grip(with the right batteries) 8fps.

The D2X has a 100% viewfinder with magnification of 0.86x., the D200 has a 95% viewfinder with magnification of 0,94x. The E3 has a 100% viewfinder with magnification of 0,7x.

Let put this together:
100+95+100 = 295 / 3 = 98,33
0.86 + 0,94 + 0,7 = 2,5 / 3 = 0,83

So it will be 98,33% with a magnification of 0,83x ?


Buffer size of the D200 is 22 RAW frames and 37 JPEG's.
Buffer size of the D2x is 17 RAW frames and 22 JPEG's(full-size)
Buffer size of the E3 is 17 RAW frames and 23 JPEG's.

On the other hand the D300 is 28 RAW(6fps) and 100 JPEG's
And the D300 is 17 RAW(8fps) and 62 JPEG's

Let put those together:
22 + 17 + 17 = 56 / 3 = 18,66
37 + 22 + 23 = 83 / 3 = 27,33

So conclusion:

K-7 specs "known according to ogl's words...":
5 fps
11 point AF system
Viewfinder: 98,33% with magnification of 0,83x
Buffer: 18,66 RAW's and 27,33 JPEG's.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RiceHigh Quote
Really? Are you Sure? JIS Level 8? ;-)
I'm sure. Better. I don't know JIS8 or not, but better.

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Well...you are saying D2X and D200
So not D3(X) and D300 ?
Don't analyze verbally what I say.
D300 is MUCH BIGGER than K-7. D300 has no video.

So conclusion:

K-7 specs "known according to ogl's words...":
5 fps
11 point AF system
Viewfinder: 98,33% with magnification of 0,83x
Buffer: 18,66 RAW's and 27,33 JPEG's.


Wrong.
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
Most monitors output it at 72Hz, some of them with intermediate generation of frames to minimize some flacker in panning action.
60Hz is common for large screen whereas some very expensive models could display 100Hz. It requires the display adaptor to support both the high resolution and the high frequency, of which the resolution is just the native resolution of the panel, say, 1920 x 1200 - my 24" Dell UltraSharp which is just in 60Hz (and so does my another EIZO 19" 1280 x 1024 model).

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I think 24fps will become a universal standard for storage of video footage, now that it wouldn't make sense anymore to differentiate between US and Europe/Japan.
Not exactly. The 24p standard is fine for "slow motion" video (which is also called the cinema mode by quite some Japanese companies) but not good enough for fast action.

Actually, Canon 5D2 has 1080p in 30fps (which is not "according to" that "standard) and the latest Sanyo Full HD hybrid camera models like HD2000/3000 etc. output true 1080p video pictures up to 60Hz! (which is truely amazing if we're just looking at those specs!)
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
I'm sure. Better. I don't know JIS8 or not, but better.
JIS8 practically means that the camera can withstand any strong splashes from any side or even fully immersed the camera in the water with "light" pressure, say, less than a few metres.

I really doubt that for a SLR for having very "strong" water proofing as the weakest point is at the mount!
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QuoteOriginally posted by RiceHigh Quote
I hope the aspect ratio is mainstream then!
I hope too. Not like "almost movie mode" of K20 which was 1536:1024 = 3:2 not 16:9
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QuoteOriginally posted by zipser Quote
I hope too. Not like "almost movie mode" of K20 which was 1536:1024 = 3:2 not 16:9
If it is a 3:2 *movie* mode, then it will be a JOKE! Oh, no..

There is no such aspect ratio for *movie* on Earth ever!
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Don't analyze verbally what I say.
D300 is MUCH BIGGER than K-7. D300 has no video.

So conclusion:

K-7 specs "known according to ogl's words...":
5 fps
11 point AF system
Viewfinder: 98,33% with magnification of 0,83x
Buffer: 18,66 RAW's and 27,33 JPEG's.


Wrong.
LOL
Well you said you have to combine the D200,D2X and the E3 And I did
What will it be then ?

11 point AF system is okay I suppose ?
The 5 FPS also...
Maybe the buffer and the viewfinder not ?
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If there is also 1280:720 (16:9) in the menu of K7, I think we can live with the additional 1536:1024 (3:2) ;-)
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