is this pic of K30D?

zipser · 05-11-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I'm shocked from body's material...

Don't troll. You would'nt recognize K20 from K7 by finger touch with closed eyes. The same material.

There are other things to be shocked by. The shutter sound for example. It's really nice and can compete with other systems shutter sounds

Caat · 05-11-2009, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

Rumor is magnesium chassis, not the old stainless steel frame. still guessing w/ the "rubber soul" outer shell....

Could well be replacing the stainless steel shell with a lighter metal. Ogl claims around a 600g weight which must mean some weight saving from somewhere despite the smaller size.

Carbon fibre would be good but very expensive!

But my money is on it being made from hopes and dreams

Philippos · 05-11-2009, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by ogl

inner and outer. It's not new material, but it's big surprise.

My guess: CHOCOLATE!!!

ogl · 05-11-2009, 06:59 AM

YES. Of course.

ogl · 05-11-2009, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by zipser

Don't troll. You would'nt recognize K20 from K7 by finger touch with closed eyes. The same material.

I can.

**ManuH** · 05-11-2009, 07:03 AM

The unexpected new feature will be shock resistance, sort of integrated Camera Armor.

blende8 · 05-11-2009, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by zipser

There are other things to be shocked by. The shutter sound for example. It's really nice and can compete with other systems shutter sounds

You can still hear it?
Man, what a letdown!

and · 05-11-2009, 07:09 AM

300k views passed

this thread is going to be hard to beat.

At the big camera shops in tokyo they have a printout of the 21st may teaser hanging by the pentax displays. mostly seem to be emphasizing the km at the moment.

tried the km and was very impressed! thought the af was very quick and that was with the kit lens, i thought it felt way nicer than the k20d (speaking only of af). tried the k20d with the da 16-50 damn it was slow.... the sdm seems unable to move the focusing ring as fast as the old screw drive.

and · 05-11-2009, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by ManuH

The unexpected new feature will be shock resistance, sort of integrated Camera Armor.

i hope not, whats the point. the lens on it will break anyway. ive dropped my ist ds into the asphalt at running speed and it was fine, the lens on it not so.

do hope for pentax that they have come up with something interesting that no one else has yet. they need things like that to differentiate. just like adding the sv mode got them some attention in reviews.

I hope they keep the 14.6mp sensor for future models, thats the way to go, keep the mp and make new revisions of the sensor, otherwise the improvements will be eaten up by the extra mp

zipser · 05-11-2009, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by blende8

You can still hear it?
Man, what a letdown!

And what is even worse. You can't upload your own *.wav to replace the original shutter sound

**ManuH** · 05-11-2009, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by and

i hope not, whats the point. the lens on it will break anyway. ive dropped my ist ds into the asphalt at running speed and it was fine, the lens on it not so.

See, same idea as the K10D: weathersealed body but no WR lens

awo425 · 05-11-2009, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by thibs

"SAFOX" stands for Sensor Ability Fortifying Optical Compensating System.

Pentax Auto Focus Systems

That's what I thought, it definitely NOT stands for Auto Focusing those days.

RiceHigh · 05-11-2009, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by awo425

That's what I thought, it definitely NOT stands for Auto Focusing those days.

In short, it is just an AL/ED lens used in the AF sensing unit!

illdefined · 05-11-2009, 07:45 AM

If the AF improvements were just improved algorithms, then why hasn't the K20's performance been upgraded through firmware? There has to be hardware differences, yet the "SAFOX" versions stay the same VIII.

Asahiflex · 05-11-2009, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by illdefined

If the AF improvements were just improved algorithms, then why hasn't the K20's performance been upgraded through firmware?

Maybe you haven't noticed the fact that many people reported AF improvements after installing the last K20D firmware?

05-11-2009, 07:35 AM	#2278
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Safox Originally posted by awo425 That's what I thought, it definitely NOT stands for Auto Focusing those days. In short, it is just an AL/ED lens used in the AF sensing unit!

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05-11-2009, 06:53 AM	#2266
zipser New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: World Posts: 13	Originally posted by ogl I'm shocked from body's material... Don't troll. You would'nt recognize K20 from K7 by finger touch with closed eyes. The same material. There are other things to be shocked by. The shutter sound for example. It's really nice and can compete with other systems shutter sounds

05-11-2009, 06:57 AM	#2267
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by jeffkrol Rumor is magnesium chassis, not the old stainless steel frame. still guessing w/ the "rubber soul" outer shell.... Could well be replacing the stainless steel shell with a lighter metal. Ogl claims around a 600g weight which must mean some weight saving from somewhere despite the smaller size. Carbon fibre would be good but very expensive! But my money is on it being made from hopes and dreams

05-11-2009, 06:58 AM	#2268
Philippos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Volos - Greece Posts: 178	Originally posted by ogl inner and outer. It's not new material, but it's big surprise. My guess: CHOCOLATE!!!

05-11-2009, 06:59 AM	#2269
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	YES. Of course.

05-11-2009, 07:01 AM	#2270
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by zipser Don't troll. You would'nt recognize K20 from K7 by finger touch with closed eyes. The same material. I can.

05-11-2009, 07:03 AM	#2271
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	The unexpected new feature will be shock resistance, sort of integrated Camera Armor.

05-11-2009, 07:04 AM	#2272
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by zipser There are other things to be shocked by. The shutter sound for example. It's really nice and can compete with other systems shutter sounds You can still hear it? Man, what a letdown!

05-11-2009, 07:09 AM	#2273
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	300k views passed this thread is going to be hard to beat. At the big camera shops in tokyo they have a printout of the 21st may teaser hanging by the pentax displays. mostly seem to be emphasizing the km at the moment. tried the km and was very impressed! thought the af was very quick and that was with the kit lens, i thought it felt way nicer than the k20d (speaking only of af). tried the k20d with the da 16-50 damn it was slow.... the sdm seems unable to move the focusing ring as fast as the old screw drive.

05-11-2009, 07:13 AM	#2274
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by ManuH The unexpected new feature will be shock resistance, sort of integrated Camera Armor. i hope not, whats the point. the lens on it will break anyway. ive dropped my ist ds into the asphalt at running speed and it was fine, the lens on it not so. do hope for pentax that they have come up with something interesting that no one else has yet. they need things like that to differentiate. just like adding the sv mode got them some attention in reviews. I hope they keep the 14.6mp sensor for future models, thats the way to go, keep the mp and make new revisions of the sensor, otherwise the improvements will be eaten up by the extra mp

05-11-2009, 07:18 AM	#2275
zipser New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: World Posts: 13	Originally posted by blende8 You can still hear it? Man, what a letdown! And what is even worse. You can't upload your own *.wav to replace the original shutter sound

05-11-2009, 07:21 AM	#2276
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Originally posted by and i hope not, whats the point. the lens on it will break anyway. ive dropped my ist ds into the asphalt at running speed and it was fine, the lens on it not so. See, same idea as the K10D: weathersealed body but no WR lens

05-11-2009, 07:23 AM	#2277
awo425 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 481	Originally posted by thibs "SAFOX" stands for Sensor Ability Fortifying Optical Compensating System. Pentax Auto Focus Systems That's what I thought, it definitely NOT stands for Auto Focusing those days.

05-11-2009, 07:45 AM	#2279
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	If the AF improvements were just improved algorithms, then why hasn't the K20's performance been upgraded through firmware? There has to be hardware differences, yet the "SAFOX" versions stay the same VIII.

05-11-2009, 07:48 AM	#2280
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by illdefined If the AF improvements were just improved algorithms, then why hasn't the K20's performance been upgraded through firmware? Maybe you haven't noticed the fact that many people reported AF improvements after installing the last K20D firmware?