is this pic of K30D?

gazonk · 05-13-2009, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by opiedog

is this a new beer?

Made by Asahi, I presume?

zoltan1983snapper · 05-13-2009, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by lol101

Based on jpeg wizardry or will it also be interesting for us raw shooters?

My Q exactly.

Asahiflex · 05-13-2009, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by lol101

Based on jpeg wizardry or will it also be interesting for us raw shooters?

That's unknown at the moment.

Roberts · 05-13-2009, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by lol101

Based on jpeg wizardry or will it also be interesting for us raw shooters?

Maybe depends on what info will be stored in raw file and what PP software will come with camera. Maybe there will be new software for video editing, too?!

NewRsoul · 05-13-2009, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Roberts

Maybe depends on what info will be stored in raw file and what PP software will come with camera. Maybe there will be new software for video editing, too?!

Is this not what the upper Canon stuff does, it's extracted from the RAW file and used by DPP also. Thats a good piece of RAW developing software, every reviewer raves about it, hope Pentax can get near it?

Ishpuini · 05-13-2009, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

That's unknown at the moment.

I remember similar discussions around EDR when it became clear the K20D would have this feature. My initial assumption was that EDR would be a JPG feature too, but it turned out to work on RAW as well.

Let's hope these rumoured lens corrections will be for RAW too. I would hate to have to revert to either JPG or the Pentax PhotoLab software to do lens specific corrections. I rely on RAW and Lightroom too much for the PP style I've been developing lately...

Wim

RBellavance · 05-13-2009, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Let's hope these rumoured lens corrections will be for RAW too. I would hate to have to revert to either JPG or the Pentax PhotoLab software to do lens specific corrections. I rely on RAW and Lightroom too much for the PP style I've been developing lately...

I just hope we will be able to turn these auto-corrections off if we want to, especially if they are applied to RAW.

MCR · 05-13-2009, 07:23 AM

Ishpuini · 05-13-2009, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by RBellavance

I just hope we will be able to turn these auto-corrections off if we want to, especially if they are applied to RAW.

Indeed, however if they are well implemented I suspect that preference should be given to corrections as close to the original exposure as possible in the workflow to a finished image. Until now these corrections were part of the development of a RAW file, which was the result of a (slightly processed?) digitized readout from the sensor. If the in-camera corrections can be applied to the data before it is sampled to the RAW output bit rate, we can only win, esp if the actual properties of a given lens can be taken into account.

Note that this implies that for each (now unforeseen) new lens that Pentax will add to the line-up a new firmware upgrade will be required. Also sufficient free space should be foreseen in the in-camera lens table. Alternatively there will be a new generation of in-lens chips, which will include the necessary parameters, and the in-camera lens database will be used for "historic" Pentax lenses only, provided they are recognised. So it will be F, FA and DA generation only (incl. all subgenerations) in the lens table. *If* a lens table is provided and it's not just for new lenses only? Perhaps that's why the DA*60-250/4 took so long, to include this new chip?

But in the end we'll only know more when the camera's are in our hands, i.e. when we can do some empirical testing. But probably we'll still be guessing to a large degree as to what the camera actually does and when it happens in the process...

Wim

emr · 05-13-2009, 07:28 AM

Now I think I've figured out all this talk about the camera's soul, how it's revolutionary and the greatest thing ever:

It's the first camera with artificial intelligence! K-7 AI

Caat · 05-13-2009, 07:32 AM

Whilst it will be a nice thing to have doesn't the Panasonic G1 do this as well? So its not quite unique (unless we're being really pedantic about the use of the term DSLR!)

What would be super amazing would be if Pentax had also included corrections for A, K and M series lenses as well. You could select which one in the same you select focal length for SR in K and M lenses.

Kenn100D · 05-13-2009, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by MCR

Tagesschau a goverment funded new agency from Germany. Starts at 8 in the evening.

cateto · 05-13-2009, 07:57 AM

Thanks for posting the screen capture, MCR! Just posted a crop showing only the K-7 in my blog, as this is to my knowledge the very first picture of the full camera.

ions · 05-13-2009, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by cateto

Thanks for posting the screen capture, MCR! Just posted a crop showing only the K-7 in my blog, as this is to my knowledge the very first picture of the full camera.

This is not screen capture.
http://www.tvblogger.de/wp-content/1_Tagsschau_Studio_2005.jpg
Someone made a bad joke so every german pentaxian would watch tagesschau on 20.05.2009

GoldenWreckedAngle · 05-13-2009, 08:00 AM

It does sound like this camera has SOUL

Speculations Of Unlimited Lunicy

Specific Optics Ugliness Limiter

Shutter Opens Up like Lightning

Synch Optimized for Under-powered Lights

Stabilizes Old Under-priced Lenses

Sealed Out-of-box Utilitarian Lens

Shoots Oscars Using Limiteds

Sensitivity On Upper Lcd

Sees Objects Unlit Lucidly (focuses in low light)

Secures Ogl's Undying Love

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05-13-2009, 06:42 AM	#2476
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by opiedog is this a new beer? Made by Asahi, I presume?

05-13-2009, 06:43 AM	#2477
zoltan1983snapper Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 240	Originally posted by lol101 Based on jpeg wizardry or will it also be interesting for us raw shooters? My Q exactly.

05-13-2009, 06:43 AM	#2478
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by lol101 Based on jpeg wizardry or will it also be interesting for us raw shooters? That's unknown at the moment.

05-13-2009, 06:44 AM	#2479
Roberts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Latvia Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Originally posted by lol101 Based on jpeg wizardry or will it also be interesting for us raw shooters? Maybe depends on what info will be stored in raw file and what PP software will come with camera. Maybe there will be new software for video editing, too?!

05-13-2009, 06:51 AM	#2480
NewRsoul Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 81	Originally posted by Roberts Maybe depends on what info will be stored in raw file and what PP software will come with camera. Maybe there will be new software for video editing, too?! Is this not what the upper Canon stuff does, it's extracted from the RAW file and used by DPP also. Thats a good piece of RAW developing software, every reviewer raves about it, hope Pentax can get near it?

05-13-2009, 06:58 AM	#2481
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Asahiflex That's unknown at the moment. I remember similar discussions around EDR when it became clear the K20D would have this feature. My initial assumption was that EDR would be a JPG feature too, but it turned out to work on RAW as well. Let's hope these rumoured lens corrections will be for RAW too. I would hate to have to revert to either JPG or the Pentax PhotoLab software to do lens specific corrections. I rely on RAW and Lightroom too much for the PP style I've been developing lately... Wim

05-13-2009, 07:04 AM	#2482
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by Ishpuini Let's hope these rumoured lens corrections will be for RAW too. I would hate to have to revert to either JPG or the Pentax PhotoLab software to do lens specific corrections. I rely on RAW and Lightroom too much for the PP style I've been developing lately... I just hope we will be able to turn these auto-corrections off if we want to, especially if they are applied to RAW.

05-13-2009, 07:23 AM	#2483
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05-13-2009, 07:24 AM	#2484
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by RBellavance I just hope we will be able to turn these auto-corrections off if we want to, especially if they are applied to RAW. Indeed, however if they are well implemented I suspect that preference should be given to corrections as close to the original exposure as possible in the workflow to a finished image. Until now these corrections were part of the development of a RAW file, which was the result of a (slightly processed?) digitized readout from the sensor. If the in-camera corrections can be applied to the data before it is sampled to the RAW output bit rate, we can only win, esp if the actual properties of a given lens can be taken into account. Note that this implies that for each (now unforeseen) new lens that Pentax will add to the line-up a new firmware upgrade will be required. Also sufficient free space should be foreseen in the in-camera lens table. Alternatively there will be a new generation of in-lens chips, which will include the necessary parameters, and the in-camera lens database will be used for "historic" Pentax lenses only, provided they are recognised. So it will be F, FA and DA generation only (incl. all subgenerations) in the lens table. If a lens table is provided and it's not just for new lenses only? Perhaps that's why the DA*60-250/4 took so long, to include this new chip? But in the end we'll only know more when the camera's are in our hands, i.e. when we can do some empirical testing. But probably we'll still be guessing to a large degree as to what the camera actually does and when it happens in the process... Wim

05-13-2009, 07:28 AM	#2485
emr Guest	Now I think I've figured out all this talk about the camera's soul, how it's revolutionary and the greatest thing ever: It's the first camera with artificial intelligence! K-7 AI

05-13-2009, 07:32 AM	#2486
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Whilst it will be a nice thing to have doesn't the Panasonic G1 do this as well? So its not quite unique (unless we're being really pedantic about the use of the term DSLR!) What would be super amazing would be if Pentax had also included corrections for A, K and M series lenses as well. You could select which one in the same you select focal length for SR in K and M lenses.

05-13-2009, 07:34 AM	#2487
Kenn100D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paranaque City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	Originally posted by MCR Tagesschau a goverment funded new agency from Germany. Starts at 8 in the evening.

05-13-2009, 07:57 AM	#2488
cateto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 189	Thanks for posting the screen capture, MCR! Just posted a crop showing only the K-7 in my blog, as this is to my knowledge the very first picture of the full camera.

05-13-2009, 07:59 AM	#2489
ions Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 53	Originally posted by cateto Thanks for posting the screen capture, MCR! Just posted a crop showing only the K-7 in my blog, as this is to my knowledge the very first picture of the full camera. This is not screen capture. http://www.tvblogger.de/wp-content/1_Tagsschau_Studio_2005.jpg Someone made a bad joke so every german pentaxian would watch tagesschau on 20.05.2009

05-13-2009, 08:00 AM	#2490
GoldenWreckedAngle Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 339	It does sound like this camera has SOUL Speculations Of Unlimited Lunicy Specific Optics Ugliness Limiter Shutter Opens Up like Lightning Synch Optimized for Under-powered Lights Stabilizes Old Under-priced Lenses Sealed Out-of-box Utilitarian Lens Shoots Oscars Using Limiteds Sensitivity On Upper Lcd Sees Objects Unlit Lucidly (focuses in low light) Secures Ogl's Undying Love