is this pic of K30D?

ogl · 05-14-2009, 08:14 AM

I'm not fool (I hope), but I'm shocked a bit...

asw66 · 05-14-2009, 08:18 AM

OK, here's some off-the-cuff speculation that probably has no bearing whatsoever upon the K-7 or K30D. Nonetheless:

What I'd like to see is a camera that could be configured a bit like a computer rather than the rather static designs we have now. I know, the K20D (for instance) is massively configurable ... I own one, and I've barely scratched the surface of the available customisations. But computers are far more configurable still.

Imagine a camera that had a really enormous range of possible customisation options that could be installed in the firmware while hooked up to your PC. Sure, the camera would ship with a default set of shooting and processing modes, but it should be possible to customise these far more extensively by interfacing the camera to a PC and installing exactly the modes you want, and de-installing those you don't want.

I'm sure that this kind of thing will happen before too much longer: cameras will become more and more like specialised little computers. I'd imagine that we're probably about 5 years away from seeing anything quite like this though.

Driver3 · 05-14-2009, 08:20 AM

I think I read somewhere once, in a book about it, that the size of a man's camera body is inversely proportional to the size of his...

illdefined · 05-14-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I'm not fool (I hope), but I'm shocked a bit...

You've said it yourself, you're not under NDA.

ogl · 05-14-2009, 08:21 AM

I will post a part of scheme in 3-4 days...There were rumors about new and innovate VF of new K.
It's not rumor.

As I said before. There are no real info about new features in specs. Just common info.
But the inner features are the heart and soul of K-7. I think we can get explanation after May,20-21.

ions · 05-14-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I look at the scheme of new VF of K-7 and understand NOTHING.

Let us help you. Show us waht you've got

Originally posted by ogl

Body is even a bit better than simple magnesium alloy of competitors.

magnesium silicides? which shows better characteristics than magnesium alloy

))))
or should we leave magnesium and think of something much better???

ogl · 05-14-2009, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by ions

magnesium silicides? which shows better characteristics than magnesium alloy

))))
or should we leave magnesium and think of something much better???

Show, but later. Too early now. I think on May, 17-19.

Not MUCH better than magnesium alloy, but a bit stronger.

illdefined · 05-14-2009, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I will post a part of scheme in 1-2 days...There were rumors about new and innovate VF of new K.
It's not rumor.

Why 1-2 days? This is why the hype feels carefully manipulated.

ogl · 05-14-2009, 08:33 AM

I'm said "NOT NOW".

ewalk · 05-14-2009, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by illdefined

Why 1-2 days? This is why the hype feels carefully manipulated.

Of course it is - hype is always carefully planned and manipulated. Not that any of us are complaining though - it's not like we can't wait a week to find out the full details.

Gimbal · 05-14-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Not MUCH better than magnesium alloy, but a bit stronger.

But it's still metal, right?

ogl · 05-14-2009, 08:42 AM

K-7 has inner frame and outer housing.

illdefined · 05-14-2009, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I'm said "NOT NOW".

ok, then it is still a rumor.

Erik · 05-14-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by asw66

OK, here's some off-the-cuff speculation that probably has no bearing whatsoever upon the K-7 or K30D. Nonetheless:

What I'd like to see is a camera that could be configured a bit like a computer rather than the rather static designs we have now. I know, the K20D (for instance) is massively configurable ... I own one, and I've barely scratched the surface of the available customisations. But computers are far more configurable still.

Imagine a camera that had a really enormous range of possible customisation options that could be installed in the firmware while hooked up to your PC. Sure, the camera would ship with a default set of shooting and processing modes, but it should be possible to customise these far more extensively by interfacing the camera to a PC and installing exactly the modes you want, and de-installing those you don't want.

I'm sure that this kind of thing will happen before too much longer: cameras will become more and more like specialised little computers. I'd imagine that we're probably about 5 years away from seeing anything quite like this though.

CHDK is something like this. It is an unofficial, open-source firmware replacement for the Canon Powershot and IXUS series that enables you to do all sorts of crazy things. Pretty cool. CHDK Wiki

ogl · 05-14-2009, 08:47 AM

Yes. But I will show.

05-14-2009, 08:21 AM	#2690
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I will post a part of scheme in 3-4 days...There were rumors about new and innovate VF of new K. It's not rumor. As I said before. There are no real info about new features in specs. Just common info. But the inner features are the heart and soul of K-7. I think we can get explanation after May,20-21. Last edited by ogl; 05-14-2009 at 08:26 AM.

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05-14-2009, 08:14 AM	#2686
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I'm not fool (I hope), but I'm shocked a bit...

05-14-2009, 08:18 AM	#2687
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	OK, here's some off-the-cuff speculation that probably has no bearing whatsoever upon the K-7 or K30D. Nonetheless: What I'd like to see is a camera that could be configured a bit like a computer rather than the rather static designs we have now. I know, the K20D (for instance) is massively configurable ... I own one, and I've barely scratched the surface of the available customisations. But computers are far more configurable still. Imagine a camera that had a really enormous range of possible customisation options that could be installed in the firmware while hooked up to your PC. Sure, the camera would ship with a default set of shooting and processing modes, but it should be possible to customise these far more extensively by interfacing the camera to a PC and installing exactly the modes you want, and de-installing those you don't want. I'm sure that this kind of thing will happen before too much longer: cameras will become more and more like specialised little computers. I'd imagine that we're probably about 5 years away from seeing anything quite like this though.

05-14-2009, 08:20 AM	#2688
Driver3 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 202	I think I read somewhere once, in a book about it, that the size of a man's camera body is inversely proportional to the size of his...

05-14-2009, 08:21 AM	#2689
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by ogl I'm not fool (I hope), but I'm shocked a bit... You've said it yourself, you're not under NDA.

05-14-2009, 08:23 AM	#2691
ions Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 53	Originally posted by ogl I look at the scheme of new VF of K-7 and understand NOTHING. Let us help you. Show us waht you've got Originally posted by ogl Body is even a bit better than simple magnesium alloy of competitors. magnesium silicides? which shows better characteristics than magnesium alloy )))) or should we leave magnesium and think of something much better???

05-14-2009, 08:26 AM	#2692
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ions magnesium silicides? which shows better characteristics than magnesium alloy )))) or should we leave magnesium and think of something much better??? Show, but later. Too early now. I think on May, 17-19. Not MUCH better than magnesium alloy, but a bit stronger.

05-14-2009, 08:26 AM	#2693
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by ogl I will post a part of scheme in 1-2 days...There were rumors about new and innovate VF of new K. It's not rumor. Why 1-2 days? This is why the hype feels carefully manipulated.

05-14-2009, 08:33 AM	#2694
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I'm said "NOT NOW".

05-14-2009, 08:38 AM	#2695
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by illdefined Why 1-2 days? This is why the hype feels carefully manipulated. Of course it is - hype is always carefully planned and manipulated. Not that any of us are complaining though - it's not like we can't wait a week to find out the full details.

05-14-2009, 08:41 AM	#2696
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by ogl Not MUCH better than magnesium alloy, but a bit stronger. But it's still metal, right?

05-14-2009, 08:42 AM	#2697
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	K-7 has inner frame and outer housing.

05-14-2009, 08:43 AM	#2698
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by ogl I'm said "NOT NOW". ok, then it is still a rumor.

05-14-2009, 08:47 AM	#2699
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Originally posted by asw66 OK, here's some off-the-cuff speculation that probably has no bearing whatsoever upon the K-7 or K30D. Nonetheless: What I'd like to see is a camera that could be configured a bit like a computer rather than the rather static designs we have now. I know, the K20D (for instance) is massively configurable ... I own one, and I've barely scratched the surface of the available customisations. But computers are far more configurable still. Imagine a camera that had a really enormous range of possible customisation options that could be installed in the firmware while hooked up to your PC. Sure, the camera would ship with a default set of shooting and processing modes, but it should be possible to customise these far more extensively by interfacing the camera to a PC and installing exactly the modes you want, and de-installing those you don't want. I'm sure that this kind of thing will happen before too much longer: cameras will become more and more like specialised little computers. I'd imagine that we're probably about 5 years away from seeing anything quite like this though. CHDK is something like this. It is an unofficial, open-source firmware replacement for the Canon Powershot and IXUS series that enables you to do all sorts of crazy things. Pretty cool. CHDK Wiki

05-14-2009, 08:47 AM	#2700
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Yes. But I will show.