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04-22-2009, 03:23 AM   #706
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QuoteOriginally posted by lol101 Quote
The K10/K20/K7(?) line isn't meant to compete with the D300 line, it's meant to compete against the D80/D90 line.

Look at the D90 specs and you'll have a more reasonable estimate of what's coming from Pentax.
That's fine and very likely true but only as long as Pentax price it to compete with the D90 level

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May be, may be..., but... the exactly same information at the exactly same time appears from You here and from Yana36 on DPR. And not only this time, but regularly...
I've noticed that as well. Some of the posts are almost word for word. Even similar ones have similar sentence structure and word usage. ogl, your account at DPR might have gotten banned...but your doppelgänger hasn't.
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May be, may be..., but... the exactly same information at the exactly same time appears from You here and from Yana36 on DPR. And not only this time, but regularly...
I copy sometimes Yana's posts. it's true. And I check all threads where he/she posts.
It's my frank confession
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Good luck and greetings from Russia.
Welcome to the forum!

Is it the thing to do right now in Russia?
The three letter cryptic avatar names, I mean. Like ogl aaj ...


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That's fine and very likely true but only as long as Pentax price it to compete with the D90 level
Some would say that the weathersealed body and SR warrant the higher price for the Pentax, especially if the new camera has some kind of "limited" quality finish touch to it (which doesn't appear to be true from the small blurry pics I have seen but until we see some clearer ones...)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Caat Quote
That's fine and very likely true but only as long as Pentax price it to compete with the D90 level
Exactly, this new K7 is going to be more expensive than both d90 and d300 with similar or lower specs?

I don't think so...

Something is wrong, the suppoused "similar to k20d in new body" specs or the quoted 1500€ price...
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Exactly, this new K7 is going to be more expensive than both d90 and d300 with similar or lower specs?

I don't think so...

Something is wrong, the suppoused "similar to k20d in new body" specs or the quoted 1500€ price...
My guess is that the new body MSRP is going to be closer to the €1299 body only for the first months (price increase also due to yen effects).
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QuoteOriginally posted by blende8 Quote
It will be the same K20D with better LV, the same SAFOX VIII (a bit better), with new AF mode - 6.5 fps in 6 MP jpeg, HD video and new body.
The same 1/180 and 1/4000.
The new version of 14.6 CMOS sensor of Samsung.
IT ALL!!!! No any revolution.
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1500 is pre-order price, the real price will be under 1300 euro.
Camera will be with unique VF.

This is silly...
Except for the new video mode, it sounds more like a firmware upgrade for the K20D, than a whole new camera model..
So why the extreme price difference ?
It should be called "Pentax K20D v1.5", or "Pentax K20D v2" at most..

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QuoteOriginally posted by Turo Quote
I think there should be some surprises in the new body...

If you forget about the (probably) unique design of the body, specs wise it doesn't seem competitive against the d300... (and more expensive). That's not the way Pentax used to think.
QuoteOriginally posted by Turo Quote
Exactly, this new K7 is going to be more expensive than both d90 and d300 with similar or lower specs?

I don't think so...

Something is wrong, the suppoused "similar to k20d in new body" specs or the quoted 1500€ price...

QuoteOriginally posted by lol101 Quote
My guess is that the new body MSRP is going to be closer to the €1299 body only for the first months (price increase also due to yen effects).

I think nobody has taken the trouble to look upthe D300 at Tekade....Now, oneandahalfyears after the D300 was announced(at € 1980) the body only at Tekade costs € 1599,00 so the next one is already cheaper there...

Most stores in Europe I looked up charge € 1200,00 for the D300, most indeed about € 1300,00 so the new one is already almost competitive.

We may still see something more than this one, as far as I have been able to tell a few months ago multiple new bodies weer announced. I don't think the Hoya statement changerd toomuch about that.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lol101 Quote
Some would say that the weathersealed body and SR warrant the higher price for the Pentax, especially if the new camera has some kind of "limited" quality finish touch to it (which doesn't appear to be true from the small blurry pics I have seen but until we see some clearer ones...)
Yeah, sure that's very true. Especially in the case of SR. I am more sceptical as to how much importance is placed on weathersealing by most people though - especially when Pentax's current sealed lenses are so expensive compared to their unsealed ones.

I think SR is definately a "I'd pay more for" feature but weathersealing is more of a "it'd tip the balance in favour of" feature. If you follow me.

I think I may have said on Dpreview (rather than here) that a metal chassis would go a long way in allowing Pentax to charge a lot more for the K7 than Nikon does for the D90. Producing a camera with professional fit and finish would help compensate for more pedestrian specifications compared to its same-price rivals. But as you say we have no evidence of thise from the current photographs.
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Forget that DPR "Yana"

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This is silly...
Except for the new video mode, it sounds more like a firmware upgrade for the K20D, than a whole new camera model..
So why the extreme price difference ?
It should be called "Pentax K20D v1.5", or "Pentax K20D v2" at most..
Yes, exactly.

If you read the profile of the poster for the source of information, here, just two days ago he even has not known the TekaDe Ad for preorders and was still asking if the new Pentax is a FF or not. But suddenly he has known everything about the new cam and made his post!

So, why you guys took his words (so) seriously?? :-0
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The only thing we know for sure is the new big viewfinder, it seems to be a big change ! The sensor should be the same Samsung, and there seems to be a video mode. For the others specs it's blabla.
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So, why you guys took his words (so) seriously?? :-0
Maybe because it helps to lower expectations?
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