is this pic of K30D?

and · 04-24-2009, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by ewalk

new system of control = no Fn button, more direct control (read: ISO button, other direct controls.)

Ill bet the fn button is still there, I doubt they added that many new buttons to make it redundant

soccerjoe5 · 04-24-2009, 03:00 AM

I like dedicated buttons, they save button presses. You can still keep the Fn button of course for more customization.

Asahiflex · 04-24-2009, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by and

Ill bet the fn button is still there, I doubt they added that many new buttons to make it redundant

New buttons do not need to be added to remove the Fn button

zntgrg · 04-24-2009, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by soccerjoe5

I like dedicated buttons, they save button presses. You can still keep the Fn button of course for more customization.

Originally posted by and

Ill bet the fn button is still there, I doubt they added that many new buttons to make it redundant

K-m lacks fn button, and have direct ISO/WB on the arrows. So it could be very likely.

and · 04-24-2009, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by zntgrg

K-m lacks fn button, and have direct ISO/WB on the arrows. So it could be very likely.

But on the k10d, k20d, u can set focus points to SEL and use the arrows to change them and that would then conflict if those buttons had normal functions on them. So I find that unlikely. it works on the k-m because it doesnt have that af point selector wheel

Ishpuini · 04-24-2009, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by zntgrg

K-m lacks fn button, and have direct ISO/WB on the arrows. So it could be very likely.

Just a little question that pops to my mind. How do you select AF points in AF SEL mode on the K-m? Do the direct access buttons stop working in AF SEL or is there another button to press before selecting the AF points?

Wim

ewalk · 04-24-2009, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Just a little question that pops to my mind. How do you select AF points in AF SEL mode on the K-m? Do the direct access buttons stop working in AF SEL or is there another button to press before selecting the AF points?

Wim

I don't think you can select focus points for the K-m.

Zav · 04-24-2009, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by ewalk

I don't think you can select focus points for the K-m.

I confirm this.

Flapjack7 · 04-24-2009, 04:27 AM

There's no Fn button. To select AF points you must first press the middle ok button.

Ishpuini · 04-24-2009, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Flapjack7

There's no Fn button. To select AF points you must first press the middle ok button.

If so, that wouldn't be very convenient for me as I use the AF selection all the time. But I guess having to press the OK button would avoid accidentally changing the AF point which does occasionally happen to me...

I wonder what it will turn out to be...

Wim

Gimbal · 04-24-2009, 04:49 AM

The ”ok” button works fine as an ”iso” button on the K10/K20 so a new iso button isn’t that important in my opinion. Perhaps the mystery button on the top is a “live-view” button?

ogl · 04-24-2009, 05:03 AM

on the top - -/+Av and ISO

uccemebug · 04-24-2009, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Who doesn't love an LX.

Everyone seems to love them dearly, here in Tokyo. A used LX in top condition can easily command ¥400,000 ($4000) or more. I've never seen one for less than about ¥60,000 ($600).

But I have to wonder at all of the comparisons being made in this 1000-post thread. I've tried to follow the thread but I don't see where most of the conjecture is coming from.

NewRsoul · 04-24-2009, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by Gimbal

The ”ok” button works fine as an ”iso” button on the K10/K20 so a new iso button isn’t that important in my opinion.

I agree, but the lack of the button (and one for WB) it's always mentioned by reviewers and marked down as a negative!

Gimbal · 04-24-2009, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by ogl

on the top - -/+Av and ISO

That is the common guess, but not a fact as far as I know.

04-24-2009, 04:27 AM	#954
Flapjack7 New Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Zielona Gora, Poland Posts: 4	different controls There's no Fn button. To select AF points you must first press the middle ok button.

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04-24-2009, 02:37 AM	#946
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by ewalk new system of control = no Fn button, more direct control (read: ISO button, other direct controls.) Ill bet the fn button is still there, I doubt they added that many new buttons to make it redundant

04-24-2009, 03:00 AM	#947
soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	I like dedicated buttons, they save button presses. You can still keep the Fn button of course for more customization.

04-24-2009, 03:01 AM	#948
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by and Ill bet the fn button is still there, I doubt they added that many new buttons to make it redundant New buttons do not need to be added to remove the Fn button

04-24-2009, 03:02 AM	#949
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Originally posted by soccerjoe5 I like dedicated buttons, they save button presses. You can still keep the Fn button of course for more customization. Originally posted by and Ill bet the fn button is still there, I doubt they added that many new buttons to make it redundant K-m lacks fn button, and have direct ISO/WB on the arrows. So it could be very likely.

04-24-2009, 03:14 AM	#950
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by zntgrg K-m lacks fn button, and have direct ISO/WB on the arrows. So it could be very likely. But on the k10d, k20d, u can set focus points to SEL and use the arrows to change them and that would then conflict if those buttons had normal functions on them. So I find that unlikely. it works on the k-m because it doesnt have that af point selector wheel

04-24-2009, 03:22 AM	#951
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by zntgrg K-m lacks fn button, and have direct ISO/WB on the arrows. So it could be very likely. Just a little question that pops to my mind. How do you select AF points in AF SEL mode on the K-m? Do the direct access buttons stop working in AF SEL or is there another button to press before selecting the AF points? Wim

04-24-2009, 03:23 AM	#952
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by Ishpuini Just a little question that pops to my mind. How do you select AF points in AF SEL mode on the K-m? Do the direct access buttons stop working in AF SEL or is there another button to press before selecting the AF points? Wim I don't think you can select focus points for the K-m.

04-24-2009, 03:35 AM	#953
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,371	Originally posted by ewalk I don't think you can select focus points for the K-m. I confirm this.

04-24-2009, 04:37 AM	#955
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Flapjack7 There's no Fn button. To select AF points you must first press the middle ok button. If so, that wouldn't be very convenient for me as I use the AF selection all the time. But I guess having to press the OK button would avoid accidentally changing the AF point which does occasionally happen to me... I wonder what it will turn out to be... Wim

04-24-2009, 04:49 AM	#956
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	The ”ok” button works fine as an ”iso” button on the K10/K20 so a new iso button isn’t that important in my opinion. Perhaps the mystery button on the top is a “live-view” button?

04-24-2009, 05:03 AM	#957
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	on the top - -/+Av and ISO

04-24-2009, 05:04 AM	#958
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Who doesn't love an LX. Everyone seems to love them dearly, here in Tokyo. A used LX in top condition can easily command ¥400,000 ($4000) or more. I've never seen one for less than about ¥60,000 ($600). But I have to wonder at all of the comparisons being made in this 1000-post thread. I've tried to follow the thread but I don't see where most of the conjecture is coming from.

04-24-2009, 05:04 AM	#959
NewRsoul Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 81	Originally posted by Gimbal The ”ok” button works fine as an ”iso” button on the K10/K20 so a new iso button isn’t that important in my opinion. I agree, but the lack of the button (and one for WB) it's always mentioned by reviewers and marked down as a negative!

04-24-2009, 05:17 AM	#960
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by ogl on the top - -/+Av and ISO That is the common guess, but not a fact as far as I know.