is this pic of K30D?

Ratmagiclady · 04-17-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Indeed, but it could just as well just be the Off position. Nothing supports that the On/Off switch will still be in the same place as previous bodies...

Wim

Well, except that it'd be terribly-inconvenient to do that, I think? Having to reach up and turn from 'off' and select your exposure mode?

I don't much care about it: I could take or leave, but I think we're looking at video capability.

séamuis · 04-17-2009, 08:15 AM

if this 'mystery' camera has the old style strap lugs (and I hope it does) then where would the lug on the right side be placed? you can clearly see the typical protruding hand grip. and looking at both my K110 and K-m, I don't see where it could be placed. something doesn't seem right... im calling hoax, unless some new, better photos show up.

gazonk · 04-17-2009, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by blende8

Applying CSI technology:

LOL! But I think you got the camera logo upside down

falconeye · 04-17-2009, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by blende8

Applying CSI technology:

Even as blurry as it still is, there is some correlation between your video icon and the new Pentax icon. Well spotted.

If it turns out to be this icon, we will gladly accept this year's image deblur award!

Originally posted by gazonk

LOL! But I think you got the camera logo upside down

The reconstructed image quality is already good enough to say that the icon's orientation would be correct!

Ratmagiclady · 04-17-2009, 08:45 AM

[QUOTE=séamuis;561578]if this 'mystery' camera has the old style strap lugs (and I hope it does) then where would the lug on the right side be placed? you can clearly see the typical protruding hand grip. and looking at both my K110 and K-m, I don't see where it could be placed. something doesn't seem right... im calling hoax, unless some new, better photos show up.

Hrm. Well, suppose the right side is roughly-K20 sized, (to accomodate battery and card and whatever other workings) and the left is narrow like it looks, the other strap lug might go on top, either just like current cameras, or an old-fashioned one off to the side. I don't see this arrangement as a deal-killer: it actually kind of follows, presuming this is a slightly odd-shaped camera.

Also, speaking of LXes, what if there's two strap lugs on the left?

nosnoop · 04-17-2009, 09:04 AM

It looks like the original blogger has deleted the 3 pictures/blog entries he posted.
Pressure from Pentax?

séamuis · 04-17-2009, 09:04 AM

I don't believe this is the same camera. the lugs don't make sense, and the shape of the mirror boxes don't seem to match.

KungPOW · 04-17-2009, 09:48 AM

I think all three photos are of the same camera. To me the prism cover shape is the same in all three shots.

The right side strap lug wouls be in the same place as it is now on the K10D/K20D. Have a look at a Nikon D300. Same locations.

This whole "mouse at the back" thing is just that. There really is a mouse at the back in the secound photo. The camera is on a desk, and the "black mass" at the rear of the camera is a computer mouse and a black mouse pad. It has nothing to do with the camera.

The interesting thing that I keep coming back to is the side seam on the prism. It is not as tight as I would expect. The shine of the material of the body and the prism also differs. Also because of the way the hot shot is located, I do not think there is a built in flash. So why the large side seam?

I really am wondering if it has a removable viewfinder. I know no other camera has this. But why the large side seam and no built in flash?

archinaut · 04-17-2009, 09:50 AM

Oh, I'm shure it is!

Look at the knobs and buttons on the upper side of the Mirrorbox: Everything matches!

And it really has to be very small for the mirrorbox is that dominant compared to K10D and others!

emr · 04-17-2009, 09:52 AM

All this speculation is better than watching Lost or football! Keep it coming, I'll get some drinks and popcorn.

Caat · 04-17-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by KungPOW

The interesting thing that I keep coming back to is the side seam on the prism. It is not as tight as I would expect. The shine of the material of the body and the prism also differs. Also because of the way the hot shot is located, I do not think there is a built in flash. So why the large side seam?

I really am wondering if it has a removable viewfinder. I know no other camera has this. But why the large side seam and no built in flash?

As tight as you'd expect? This is highly unlikely to be a production camera and it is quite possibly not even functional - it could be a mockup of final hardware. I really don't think we can draw any conclusions about a built in flash based on this. I would be very surprised if this camera lacked a built in flash. It would loose Pentax a huge number of sales.

IMHO interchangeable view finders would be a huge waste of R&D money and very few people would buy new viewfinders either so Pentax would be unlikely to recoup this cost. Plus it introduces the problem of extra joints to seal against dust, moisture and light. And with live-view I really do not see the appeal. I would expect to see a swivelling LCD screen on a Pentax camera long before interchangeable viewfinders (if ever).

séamuis · 04-17-2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

IMHO interchangeable view finders would be a huge waste of R&D money and very few people would buy new viewfinders either so Pentax would be unlikely to recoup this cost. Plus it introduces the problem of extra joints to seal against dust, moisture and light. And with live-view I really do not see the appeal.

what R&D? Pentax already implemented this with the LX. it had interchangeable finders and was weather sealed. in 1980. liveview isn't the best option in a lot of situations, especially when using manual lenses. and I personally WOULD purchase such a camera and finders. but I guess im a rouge.

JHfwp · 04-17-2009, 10:19 AM

Is the "prism cover" shape the same in both photos??? To me, it looks like one is slanted back much farther away from the lens than the other. Maybe it's because of the blur. Or maybe they're two different cameras? LOL, I probably shouldn't have said that.

illdefined · 04-17-2009, 10:23 AM

quick. someone with a 35 limited macro take a picture of their K10/20D attached from the same angle as the [3rd new] spy photo.

so far i'm really disheartened by the apparent depth of this new camera type. for me the only dimension of the K20D that could've used shortening was its depth (compared to other brands aps-c models). it was already the smallest in length and width for that tier camera, even the olympus 4/3 semi-pros. some felt the grip of the k10/20D was a bit too small as it was.

that's a "small" limited lens and look how far it's pushed out. and where's the hotshoe? further back still? with a traditional zoom lens the thing will look like a rifle (i know some of you will like that).

again, to me, this seems pretty counter to the Limited lens philosophy one of the Pentax execs said the next camera model would follow ie. super high image and build quality in a small, discrete package.

what i was hoping for was a k20D shoehorned into a weathersealed Oly-4X0 series form factor, essentially a k20D smaller than a K200D. instead it looks like we're getting something that will put our hands closer together but will stick out a lot more. bummer.

séamuis · 04-17-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

quick. someone with a 35 limited macro take a picture of their K10/20D attached from the same angle as the spy photo.

thats been done multiple times within this thread.

04-17-2009, 10:23 AM	#254
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	quick. someone with a 35 limited macro take a picture of their K10/20D attached from the same angle as the [3rd new] spy photo. so far i'm really disheartened by the apparent depth of this new camera type. for me the only dimension of the K20D that could've used shortening was its depth (compared to other brands aps-c models). it was already the smallest in length and width for that tier camera, even the olympus 4/3 semi-pros. some felt the grip of the k10/20D was a bit too small as it was. that's a "small" limited lens and look how far it's pushed out. and where's the hotshoe? further back still? with a traditional zoom lens the thing will look like a rifle (i know some of you will like that). again, to me, this seems pretty counter to the Limited lens philosophy one of the Pentax execs said the next camera model would follow ie. super high image and build quality in a small, discrete package. what i was hoping for was a k20D shoehorned into a weathersealed Oly-4X0 series form factor, essentially a k20D smaller than a K200D. instead it looks like we're getting something that will put our hands closer together but will stick out a lot more. bummer. Last edited by illdefined; 04-17-2009 at 11:14 AM.

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04-17-2009, 07:56 AM	#241
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by Ishpuini Indeed, but it could just as well just be the Off position. Nothing supports that the On/Off switch will still be in the same place as previous bodies... Wim Well, except that it'd be terribly-inconvenient to do that, I think? Having to reach up and turn from 'off' and select your exposure mode? I don't much care about it: I could take or leave, but I think we're looking at video capability.

04-17-2009, 08:15 AM	#242
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	if this 'mystery' camera has the old style strap lugs (and I hope it does) then where would the lug on the right side be placed? you can clearly see the typical protruding hand grip. and looking at both my K110 and K-m, I don't see where it could be placed. something doesn't seem right... im calling hoax, unless some new, better photos show up.

04-17-2009, 08:31 AM	#243
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by blende8 Applying CSI technology: LOL! But I think you got the camera logo upside down

04-17-2009, 08:36 AM	#244
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by blende8 Applying CSI technology: Even as blurry as it still is, there is some correlation between your video icon and the new Pentax icon. Well spotted. If it turns out to be this icon, we will gladly accept this year's image deblur award! Originally posted by gazonk LOL! But I think you got the camera logo upside down The reconstructed image quality is already good enough to say that the icon's orientation would be correct!

04-17-2009, 08:45 AM	#245
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	[QUOTE=séamuis;561578]if this 'mystery' camera has the old style strap lugs (and I hope it does) then where would the lug on the right side be placed? you can clearly see the typical protruding hand grip. and looking at both my K110 and K-m, I don't see where it could be placed. something doesn't seem right... im calling hoax, unless some new, better photos show up. Hrm. Well, suppose the right side is roughly-K20 sized, (to accomodate battery and card and whatever other workings) and the left is narrow like it looks, the other strap lug might go on top, either just like current cameras, or an old-fashioned one off to the side. I don't see this arrangement as a deal-killer: it actually kind of follows, presuming this is a slightly odd-shaped camera. Also, speaking of LXes, what if there's two strap lugs on the left?

04-17-2009, 09:04 AM	#246
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	It looks like the original blogger has deleted the 3 pictures/blog entries he posted. Pressure from Pentax?

04-17-2009, 09:04 AM	#247
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	I don't believe this is the same camera. the lugs don't make sense, and the shape of the mirror boxes don't seem to match.

04-17-2009, 09:48 AM	#248
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	I think all three photos are of the same camera. To me the prism cover shape is the same in all three shots. The right side strap lug wouls be in the same place as it is now on the K10D/K20D. Have a look at a Nikon D300. Same locations. This whole "mouse at the back" thing is just that. There really is a mouse at the back in the secound photo. The camera is on a desk, and the "black mass" at the rear of the camera is a computer mouse and a black mouse pad. It has nothing to do with the camera. The interesting thing that I keep coming back to is the side seam on the prism. It is not as tight as I would expect. The shine of the material of the body and the prism also differs. Also because of the way the hot shot is located, I do not think there is a built in flash. So why the large side seam? I really am wondering if it has a removable viewfinder. I know no other camera has this. But why the large side seam and no built in flash?

04-17-2009, 09:50 AM	#249
archinaut Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Oh, I'm shure it is! Look at the knobs and buttons on the upper side of the Mirrorbox: Everything matches! And it really has to be very small for the mirrorbox is that dominant compared to K10D and others!

04-17-2009, 09:52 AM	#250
emr Guest	All this speculation is better than watching Lost or football! Keep it coming, I'll get some drinks and popcorn.

04-17-2009, 09:58 AM	#251
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by KungPOW The interesting thing that I keep coming back to is the side seam on the prism. It is not as tight as I would expect. The shine of the material of the body and the prism also differs. Also because of the way the hot shot is located, I do not think there is a built in flash. So why the large side seam? I really am wondering if it has a removable viewfinder. I know no other camera has this. But why the large side seam and no built in flash? As tight as you'd expect? This is highly unlikely to be a production camera and it is quite possibly not even functional - it could be a mockup of final hardware. I really don't think we can draw any conclusions about a built in flash based on this. I would be very surprised if this camera lacked a built in flash. It would loose Pentax a huge number of sales. IMHO interchangeable view finders would be a huge waste of R&D money and very few people would buy new viewfinders either so Pentax would be unlikely to recoup this cost. Plus it introduces the problem of extra joints to seal against dust, moisture and light. And with live-view I really do not see the appeal. I would expect to see a swivelling LCD screen on a Pentax camera long before interchangeable viewfinders (if ever).

04-17-2009, 10:11 AM	#252
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: IMHO interchangeable view finders would be a huge waste of R&D money and very few people would buy new viewfinders either so Pentax would be unlikely to recoup this cost. Plus it introduces the problem of extra joints to seal against dust, moisture and light. And with live-view I really do not see the appeal. what R&D? Pentax already implemented this with the LX. it had interchangeable finders and was weather sealed. in 1980. liveview isn't the best option in a lot of situations, especially when using manual lenses. and I personally WOULD purchase such a camera and finders. but I guess im a rouge.

04-17-2009, 10:19 AM	#253
JHfwp Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 876	Is the "prism cover" shape the same in both photos??? To me, it looks like one is slanted back much farther away from the lens than the other. Maybe it's because of the blur. Or maybe they're two different cameras? LOL, I probably shouldn't have said that.

04-17-2009, 10:27 AM	#255
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: quick. someone with a 35 limited macro take a picture of their K10/20D attached from the same angle as the spy photo. thats been done multiple times within this thread.