is this pic of K30D?

CSoars · 04-19-2009, 05:04 PM

Time to put aside some of my tax return and sell my CLA'd LX? Looks pretty promising, and I've been digital free since September 2008.

Of course, I'm a sucker for boxy, hard lines. 80's sports cars, this new prism.....

ewalk · 04-19-2009, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by Enc0der

I don't get it.
It will take me more time to move my finger the click that button, than actually wait for the image to be written....

Try waiting after you've taken 5-7 shots in a row. Then have fun waiting while the buffer clears and writes to the card. And then wait some more if you actually want to review those 5-7 images immediately thereafter. If you could toggle a second SD card while the initial burst is still processing/writing to the media, you could continue to shoot instead of waiting.

I'm not trying to be snippy, but I think dual cards that can be toggled would be more beneficial for people who take shots in rapid succession.

Peter Fang · 04-19-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Kulich

New Pentax body! I just found this picture in photo section of blog from where is other pictures...

While we're all excited to see these leaks, it leaves me a bit baffled here. Either this is part of the hype machine of Pentax's marketing department before the supposed announcement in May(?), or someone at Pentax doesn't know what discipline is. As I have stated here a few days back when the blurry images came out, the owner of this blog is someone who I believe is a Pentax employee works at Pentax Shanghai. If an employee can do things like this perhaps he has got some nods from the high up, or of course he could be just trying to show off.

I wonder what this would make people who have seen the new body and signed an NDA will feel about confidentiality promises, not to mention those who have seen the new body and have signed nothing.

Peter

illdefined · 04-19-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Acliffalay

I get the feeling that the camera will be a little smaller. The weird semicircle is probably the rear control wheel, which suggests a higher level than K200 or K2000

the grips certainly will be. yeah we already guessed its K20 level with the dual dials, black shutter button and hefty viewfinder. whats exciting is that this should still be the smallest camera of this tier among the other brands.

Enc0der · 04-19-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by ewalk

Try waiting after you've taken 5-7 shots in a row. Then have fun waiting while the buffer clears and writes to the card. And then wait some more if you actually want to review those 5-7 images immediately thereafter. If you could toggle a second SD card while the initial burst is still processing/writing to the media, you could continue to shoot instead of waiting, waiting, and, oh yeah, more waiting.

yeah, but if a camera will have 2 SD slots, I would expect it to use this for a feature that automatically writes to the avaliable card (which could be setup as a "temp folder" only, so at the end I will still have all my images in one card), not as an annoying button that wastes my time, confuse me, and split all my images across two different cards..

**zplus** · 04-19-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by CSoars

sell my CLA'd LX?

Dibs.

10c

Peter Fang · 04-19-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Erik

The green button was not originally meant to facilitate usage of M lenses on crippled K-mount cameras. The MZ-S, for instance, has a green button and the full-featured KAF2 mount. Using it to set "P" exposure in hyper manual/program shift modes is a useful feature with any lens.

If we take a look at the official 645 Digital prototype images of the back:

http://www.photographyblog.com/images/uploads_news/pentax_645_digital_2.jpg

The green button is on the back next to the AF button not on the top. As the leaked image of the new APS-C DSLR shows a similar two-button design on top (EV Compensation and ISO) compared with the 645D, I think it's quite possible that the green button is also on the back to keep the same design concept.

Peter

ogl · 04-19-2009, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Zav

Not Hoya, CZ Vision

Maybe the 2nd button is Iso button like 645D?

http://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/topic,45087.60.html

It's not ISO. It looks like this, but 2 rectangles side by side, not 3.

Or like 2 rings. Or 2 squares.

Unknown sign. Maybe aspect ration.

ogl · 04-19-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by RuiC

Well I can see two new bodies here. One left of the K20D, the new xC ??? and the other between the K20D and K-M at right. This second body looks pretty much like the new K3D. The prism and mirror box is way larger that any of the others.

Rui

Is it a joke?
It's my K200D.

Very rare and unknown camera from Pentax.

mutedphotos · 04-19-2009, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by ogl

It's not ISO. It looks like this, but 2 rectangles side by side, not 3.

The "I" in ISO is out of view because of the angle of the picture (the button is rounded and the "I" is facing the other way). So the blurry "SO" starts to look more like 2 boxes, but you can still just make out the indentation of the bottom of the S.

Peter Fang · 04-19-2009, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by ogl

It's not ISO. It looks like this, but 2 rectangles side by side, not 3.
Or like 2 rings. Or 2 squares.
Unknown sign. Maybe aspect ration.

I'd still bet it's ISO. EV Compensation and ISO buttons, in exactly the same array as the 645 Digital prototype. That makes a lot of sense. I bet the green button is on the back like the 645 Digital as well.

Peter

arpaagent · 04-19-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by mutedphotos

The "I" in ISO is out of view because of the angle of the picture (the button is rounded and the "I" is facing the other way). So the blurry "SO" starts to look more like 2 boxes, but you can still just make out the indentation of the bottom of the S.

That's what I was thinking. I think reading too much into these low quality images isn't worth too much time anyways

. But, it is something to do!

mutedphotos · 04-19-2009, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by arpaagent

That's what I was thinking. I think reading too much into these low quality images isn't worth too much time anyways

. But, it is something to do!

Agreed. I have to get my mind off of term papers every so often

vinzer · 04-19-2009, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Enc0der

yep. that's a shame..

A professional DSLR (assuming this is the pro-model) should look like a professional DSLR, not like a toy...

too bad

I'm glad I look only at a camera's performance, not at how it could impress people who look at me while shooting. I don't feel the need to stand out in the crowd or get them to notice me.

Get a medium-format camera, D3/3x, or 1D-series camera if you wanna look professional.

Originally posted by Enc0der

You can make fun and decry as much as you want, but there are some situations where a "show-off" is necessary - and can actually make you money (e.g. making good impression on a potential customer).

Uh, isn't it that customers pick photographers because of their portfolios and not the cameras they use? The paid photographers I had a chance to talk to use a wide variety of equipment and one of them is even stubborn enough to keep using a film Leica, hardly an impressive camera to look at for people who don't have an interest in photography. Yet he can command large amounts of money and get big projects because his portfolio is impressive.

Customers are impressed with photos.

sezme · 04-19-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Peter Fang

If we take a look at the official 645 Digital prototype images of the back:

http://www.photographyblog.com/images/uploads_news/pentax_645_digital_2.jpg

The green button is on the back next to the AF button not on the top. As the leaked image of the new APS-C DSLR shows a similar two-button design on top (EV Compensation and ISO) compared with the 645D, I think it's quite possible that the green button is also on the back to keep the same design concept.

Peter

I think you're absolutely right. If you look at the history of 645D prototypes (use Google Images) you'll see that at around 2006, there was a green button to the left of the shutter button exactly as on the K10D. It's only the 2009 prototype that has exposure compensation and ISO buttons on top. Obviously with those two on the top, the green button needs to be at the back. I expect the K30D (or whatever it's called) will share the same button configuration where possible.

Still curious about the two bumps in back, though. Perhaps the big one is a larger joystick-like multiselector switch to make it easy to navigate among the 51 AF points...

04-19-2009, 07:17 PM	#434
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by Enc0der yep. that's a shame.. A professional DSLR (assuming this is the pro-model) should look like a professional DSLR, not like a toy... too bad I'm glad I look only at a camera's performance, not at how it could impress people who look at me while shooting. I don't feel the need to stand out in the crowd or get them to notice me. Get a medium-format camera, D3/3x, or 1D-series camera if you wanna look professional. Originally posted by Enc0der You can make fun and decry as much as you want, but there are some situations where a "show-off" is necessary - and can actually make you money (e.g. making good impression on a potential customer). Uh, isn't it that customers pick photographers because of their portfolios and not the cameras they use? The paid photographers I had a chance to talk to use a wide variety of equipment and one of them is even stubborn enough to keep using a film Leica, hardly an impressive camera to look at for people who don't have an interest in photography. Yet he can command large amounts of money and get big projects because his portfolio is impressive. Customers are impressed with photos. Last edited by vinzer; 04-19-2009 at 07:52 PM.

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04-19-2009, 05:04 PM	#421
CSoars Inactive Account Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 322	Time to put aside some of my tax return and sell my CLA'd LX? Looks pretty promising, and I've been digital free since September 2008. Of course, I'm a sucker for boxy, hard lines. 80's sports cars, this new prism.....

04-19-2009, 05:07 PM	#422
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by Enc0der I don't get it. It will take me more time to move my finger the click that button, than actually wait for the image to be written.... Try waiting after you've taken 5-7 shots in a row. Then have fun waiting while the buffer clears and writes to the card. And then wait some more if you actually want to review those 5-7 images immediately thereafter. If you could toggle a second SD card while the initial burst is still processing/writing to the media, you could continue to shoot instead of waiting. I'm not trying to be snippy, but I think dual cards that can be toggled would be more beneficial for people who take shots in rapid succession.

04-19-2009, 05:11 PM	#423
Peter Fang Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 58	Originally posted by Kulich New Pentax body! I just found this picture in photo section of blog from where is other pictures... While we're all excited to see these leaks, it leaves me a bit baffled here. Either this is part of the hype machine of Pentax's marketing department before the supposed announcement in May(?), or someone at Pentax doesn't know what discipline is. As I have stated here a few days back when the blurry images came out, the owner of this blog is someone who I believe is a Pentax employee works at Pentax Shanghai. If an employee can do things like this perhaps he has got some nods from the high up, or of course he could be just trying to show off. I wonder what this would make people who have seen the new body and signed an NDA will feel about confidentiality promises, not to mention those who have seen the new body and have signed nothing. Peter

04-19-2009, 05:11 PM	#424
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by Acliffalay I get the feeling that the camera will be a little smaller. The weird semicircle is probably the rear control wheel, which suggests a higher level than K200 or K2000 the grips certainly will be. yeah we already guessed its K20 level with the dual dials, black shutter button and hefty viewfinder. whats exciting is that this should still be the smallest camera of this tier among the other brands.

04-19-2009, 05:11 PM	#425
Enc0der Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 107	Originally posted by ewalk Try waiting after you've taken 5-7 shots in a row. Then have fun waiting while the buffer clears and writes to the card. And then wait some more if you actually want to review those 5-7 images immediately thereafter. If you could toggle a second SD card while the initial burst is still processing/writing to the media, you could continue to shoot instead of waiting, waiting, and, oh yeah, more waiting. yeah, but if a camera will have 2 SD slots, I would expect it to use this for a feature that automatically writes to the avaliable card (which could be setup as a "temp folder" only, so at the end I will still have all my images in one card), not as an annoying button that wastes my time, confuse me, and split all my images across two different cards..

04-19-2009, 05:12 PM	#426
zplus Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 166	Originally posted by CSoars sell my CLA'd LX? Dibs. 10c

04-19-2009, 05:53 PM	#427
Peter Fang Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 58	Originally posted by Erik The green button was not originally meant to facilitate usage of M lenses on crippled K-mount cameras. The MZ-S, for instance, has a green button and the full-featured KAF2 mount. Using it to set "P" exposure in hyper manual/program shift modes is a useful feature with any lens. If we take a look at the official 645 Digital prototype images of the back: http://www.photographyblog.com/images/uploads_news/pentax_645_digital_2.jpg The green button is on the back next to the AF button not on the top. As the leaked image of the new APS-C DSLR shows a similar two-button design on top (EV Compensation and ISO) compared with the 645D, I think it's quite possible that the green button is also on the back to keep the same design concept. Peter

04-19-2009, 06:34 PM	#428
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Zav Not Hoya, CZ Vision Maybe the 2nd button is Iso button like 645D? http://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/topic,45087.60.html It's not ISO. It looks like this, but 2 rectangles side by side, not 3. Or like 2 rings. Or 2 squares. Unknown sign. Maybe aspect ration.

04-19-2009, 06:39 PM	#429
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by RuiC Well I can see two new bodies here. One left of the K20D, the new xC ??? and the other between the K20D and K-M at right. This second body looks pretty much like the new K3D. The prism and mirror box is way larger that any of the others. Rui Is it a joke? It's my K200D. Very rare and unknown camera from Pentax.

04-19-2009, 06:48 PM	#430
mutedphotos Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 149	Originally posted by ogl It's not ISO. It looks like this, but 2 rectangles side by side, not 3. The "I" in ISO is out of view because of the angle of the picture (the button is rounded and the "I" is facing the other way). So the blurry "SO" starts to look more like 2 boxes, but you can still just make out the indentation of the bottom of the S.

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04-19-2009, 06:53 PM	#431
Peter Fang Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 58	Originally posted by ogl It's not ISO. It looks like this, but 2 rectangles side by side, not 3. Or like 2 rings. Or 2 squares. Unknown sign. Maybe aspect ration. I'd still bet it's ISO. EV Compensation and ISO buttons, in exactly the same array as the 645 Digital prototype. That makes a lot of sense. I bet the green button is on the back like the 645 Digital as well. Peter

04-19-2009, 07:09 PM	#432
arpaagent Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 803	Originally posted by mutedphotos The "I" in ISO is out of view because of the angle of the picture (the button is rounded and the "I" is facing the other way). So the blurry "SO" starts to look more like 2 boxes, but you can still just make out the indentation of the bottom of the S. That's what I was thinking. I think reading too much into these low quality images isn't worth too much time anyways . But, it is something to do!

04-19-2009, 07:13 PM	#433
mutedphotos Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 149	Originally posted by arpaagent That's what I was thinking. I think reading too much into these low quality images isn't worth too much time anyways . But, it is something to do! Agreed. I have to get my mind off of term papers every so often

04-19-2009, 07:19 PM	#435
sezme Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 59	Originally posted by Peter Fang If we take a look at the official 645 Digital prototype images of the back: http://www.photographyblog.com/images/uploads_news/pentax_645_digital_2.jpg The green button is on the back next to the AF button not on the top. As the leaked image of the new APS-C DSLR shows a similar two-button design on top (EV Compensation and ISO) compared with the 645D, I think it's quite possible that the green button is also on the back to keep the same design concept. Peter I think you're absolutely right. If you look at the history of 645D prototypes (use Google Images) you'll see that at around 2006, there was a green button to the left of the shutter button exactly as on the K10D. It's only the 2009 prototype that has exposure compensation and ISO buttons on top. Obviously with those two on the top, the green button needs to be at the back. I expect the K30D (or whatever it's called) will share the same button configuration where possible. Still curious about the two bumps in back, though. Perhaps the big one is a larger joystick-like multiselector switch to make it easy to navigate among the 51 AF points...