Originally posted by thibs Some comments mke me laugh, others want to cry.
As for features/price compared to, say, D300:
1/ No AF isn't that slow. People who have both tells you in this thread but you chose to ignore them, pretty interesting behaviour, really.
It's not much slower in AF-S mode other than low light. In AF-C mode the D300 destroys the Pentax in performance, AF tracking in particular is miles ahead. That said, the D300 destroys every other camera in-class in AF-C tracking.
Quote: 2/ AF is already quite better on the K-m/K2000 so, for sure they will keep older K20 AF module...
I wouldn't call the K-m quite a bit better. As D40 owners found out if you remove enough focus points even mediocre AF units get better because they have less to process.
Quote: 3/ You compare to Nikon features (AF etc) but don't take into account what Pentax has and Kikon has not, or not in this price segment. Again, very convenient for you.
Pentax has SR and full Weathersealing (But not at this pricepoint, since the K20D is comparably priced to the D90 not the D300). Nikon has AF performance, buffering, fps, battery life (My D300 maxed out at 2800 L/Fine JPG's on the small battery), build, VF, configurability, Live View, LCD, GPS Support, WiFi support with Live View feed, max shutter, flash sync, metering, wireless flash capability, physical controls, Mirror Lockup and more. The new Pentax body would need to be a major increase in performance and features to approach the D300 and justify a 1500 Euro pricepoint.
Quote: 4/ Geeez we dunno the specs, the camera isn't tested, but you know you want a D300. The question is 'what the hell are you doing here?'.
In my case, owned the K10D, owned the D300, now getting by with a Panny G1 and Nikon & Pentax film bodies. The new Pentax looks interesting as I greatly prefer compact bodies but don't want to give up certain 'Pro' features like PC Sync and shutter speed/sync speed.
Quote: 5/ When the D400 will come, its price will be good enough 'because it is a Nikon and as such it will go down later so that's OK. The Pentax as well but that's Pentax so it doesn't count'.
When the D400 comes out it will likely set the standard for performance at its pricepoint (as the D300 and D200 did before it) and continue to do so as its price drops. Pentax can't offer K20D performance for D300 money and expect to sell much.
Quote: 6/ God, it has a ridiculously small APS-C sensor. Sure, D300/D400 as well but then it's no problem.
Don't disagree there. I'd like to see a $1.5K FF body, but that's not going to happen anytime soon from anybody.
Quote: 7/ Small sensor? It ought to make pics of lower quality isnt it? For sure, like if a FullFrame will make a genious photographer out of an idiot. Oly is there as well and oh, 'the E3 is a nice camera. Sensor size? No really a problem the camera is good'. Mmm sure sure
Well my perspective on the E3 is somewhat different (I think Oly massively flubbed a basically good idea due to awful button layout, poor IQ for the pixel count and overpricing) but I generally don't disagree with you here either.
Quote: I will add a little proverb in French because I'm not sure exactly how to translate it. I'ms ure will do it better than me:
'On ne peut pas avoir le beurre, l'argent du beurre... et le derrière (pour rester poli) de la fermière'
But this is exactly what you want, and that for less than a quid because it's Pentax, period.
Nah, what I want to see is Pentax wake up and realize they need to step up a little bit in a few areas. Their low-end bodies need real buffers (None of this 4 shots of RAW crap, it's not 2004 anymore. And yes, Canon, that includes you and the hunk of crap you call the Rebel XS) and they need to increase fps and AF-C performance on the higher-end bodies to be competitive with the D90 or Rebel T1i (ie 4fps and a moderate AF-C speed increase, even if only via putting a real AF drive motor in the new body.