is this pic of K30D?

Turo · 04-21-2009, 01:37 AM

About the rumors (only rumors from a "normaly reliable source") in DSRLMagazine...

New Pentax K** will probably be APS-C, although he elucubrates on how interesting could be an APS-H sized sensor...

The rest of the info is about thing that we are already discussing here, live view in the viewfinder, live histogram, no built-in flash...

Nothing new, in my opinion, just that rumors are propagating.

pw-pix · 04-21-2009, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by cateto

...dial to choose professional modes, with central lock.

Please let it be true

lol101 · 04-21-2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

There will be no built-in flash (as shown in the picture shown in the previous entry of this blog) .

That would be a stupid mistake since it would spell the end of using the built-in flash as a commander for wireless flash: Pentax is too inteligent for that.

Quote:

Besides, it might incorporate one of the most interesting patents from Pentax, i.e., the possibility of showing simultaneously, on the optical viewfinder, information about other functions, such as live histogram or even... Live-View and video with the mirror lockup!!

No live histogram if the camera isn't in LV mode because the sensor needs to be exposed to the light to be able to display a live histogram.

So either Pentax has indeed found a way to combine optical and electronic VF or... this is just a nice compilation of all the BS running freely on the internet (what? No square FF sensor with APS-H crop mode?)

lol101 · 04-21-2009, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by pw-pix

Please let it be true

May I ask why a central lock is so important (I am assuming you're not looking after the "professional mode" that automatically send you checks each end of the month... it's not likely to happen...

)

fejker · 04-21-2009, 01:54 AM

The lock seams useful to me. Unintentional mode change happened to me many times, so I'm glad Pentax is going to implement this.

thibs · 04-21-2009, 02:09 AM

You're correct (as for taxes).

thibs · 04-21-2009, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by lol101

That would be a stupid mistake since it would spell the end of using the built-in flash as a commander for wireless flash: Pentax is too inteligent for that.

It would be a pity but for me it is an acceptable tradeoff if this OVF/EVF is true.

Originally posted by lol101

So either Pentax has indeed found a way to combine optical and electronic VF or... this is just a nice compilation of all the BS running freely on the internet (what? No square FF sensor with APS-H crop mode?)

Well that's exactly what a recent patent was all about.

Asahiflex · 04-21-2009, 02:35 AM

At least it is 100% sure that Pentax was working on a Limited body. Here's one of the photos from the famous Ivyjopy's blog. What do we see here? The text "Concept-4 design" and "Goes well with the DSLR Limited Lens"

falconeye · 04-21-2009, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by cateto

According to information published in Spanish site DSLRMagazine

@cateto, as much as I appreciate your post, the Spanish article is nothing but a speculative summary from the exact same source we already analyzed in this thread. Nothing new. And some bits are probably wrong, like the lack of flash deduced from an earlier photo where we probably know better now.

Originally posted by eurostar

European prices do include VAT

I already did a correction and complete prize analysis in post #554:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/565382-post554.html

@square sensor discussion:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/491041-post60.html
(this post and the entire thread). I.e., nothing new to be discussed here.

StephenG · 04-21-2009, 02:44 AM

the date on that photo shows its 2 months old.??

ewalk · 04-21-2009, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by StephenG

the date on that photo shows its 2 months old.??

It is, but all those things in the picture together are probably a huge hint at the upcoming camera. The size of the K-m, retro design, modern features, "Limited" design, angular prism...

Good find on the new picture - any other ones floating around out there?

cateto · 04-21-2009, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

@cateto, as much as I appreciate your post, the Spanish article is nothing but a speculative summary from the exact same source we already analyzed in this thread. Nothing new. And some bits are probably wrong, like the lack of flash deduced from an earlier photo where we probably know better now.

I would not bet that article is purely speculative. For the record, people involved in that magazine are often working under NDA and start posting hints as far as information is becoming undisclosed in the net. I'm not saying it is the case here, but it MIGHT be the case.

For instance, the same magazine had extremely accurate information about some new releases from Canon, and it was posted (slightly disguised to avoid issues) with many weeks of advance over other major sites. Just saying.

XATN3q · 04-21-2009, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

At least it is 100% sure that Pentax was working on a Limited body. Here's one of the photos from the famous Ivyjopy's blog. What do we see here? The text "Concept-4 design" and "Goes well with the DSLR Limited Lens"

Well, look like Pentax just chop off the fix lens on the X70 and stick the limited lens on the new body

, I guess this is the first step to adapt and testing the compatability of Da lens on something like the NX ???

this little guy should have movie ability and priced about 20% more than the k20D

falconeye · 04-21-2009, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by cateto

I would not bet that article is purely speculative. For the record, people involved in that magazine are often working under NDA

@cateto, I am sure that this may be the case, theoretically.
Just not for this article. I've read it in Spanish and it becomes obvious that they know nothing more than us. Esp. their misleading speculation on flash is telling.

cateto · 04-21-2009, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

it becomes obvious that they know nothing more than us.

Believe what you will: contrary to some rices, I make no business out of making noise about Pentax.

I posted this because I honestly think there is valuable information in that article. Whether others agree or not, it's up to them.

04-21-2009, 03:06 AM	#598
XATN3q Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 92	Originally posted by Asahiflex At least it is 100% sure that Pentax was working on a Limited body. Here's one of the photos from the famous Ivyjopy's blog. What do we see here? The text "Concept-4 design" and "Goes well with the DSLR Limited Lens" Well, look like Pentax just chop off the fix lens on the X70 and stick the limited lens on the new body , I guess this is the first step to adapt and testing the compatability of Da lens on something like the NX ??? this little guy should have movie ability and priced about 20% more than the k20D Last edited by XATN3q; 04-21-2009 at 03:11 AM.

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04-21-2009, 01:37 AM	#586
Turo Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chengdu Posts: 31	About the rumors (only rumors from a "normaly reliable source") in DSRLMagazine... New Pentax K* will probably be APS-C*, although he elucubrates on how interesting could be an APS-H sized sensor... The rest of the info is about thing that we are already discussing here, live view in the viewfinder, live histogram, no built-in flash... Nothing new, in my opinion, just that rumors are propagating.

04-21-2009, 01:43 AM	#587
pw-pix Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Geelong Photos: Gallery Posts: 138	Originally posted by cateto ...dial to choose professional modes, with central lock. Please let it be true

04-21-2009, 01:43 AM	#588
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Quote: There will be no built-in flash (as shown in the picture shown in the previous entry of this blog) . That would be a stupid mistake since it would spell the end of using the built-in flash as a commander for wireless flash: Pentax is too inteligent for that. Quote: Besides, it might incorporate one of the most interesting patents from Pentax, i.e., the possibility of showing simultaneously, on the optical viewfinder, information about other functions, such as live histogram or even... Live-View and video with the mirror lockup!! No live histogram if the camera isn't in LV mode because the sensor needs to be exposed to the light to be able to display a live histogram. So either Pentax has indeed found a way to combine optical and electronic VF or... this is just a nice compilation of all the BS running freely on the internet (what? No square FF sensor with APS-H crop mode?)

04-21-2009, 01:45 AM	#589
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by pw-pix Please let it be true May I ask why a central lock is so important (I am assuming you're not looking after the "professional mode" that automatically send you checks each end of the month... it's not likely to happen... )

04-21-2009, 01:54 AM	#590
fejker Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	The lock seams useful to me. Unintentional mode change happened to me many times, so I'm glad Pentax is going to implement this.

04-21-2009, 02:09 AM	#591
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	You're correct (as for taxes).

04-21-2009, 02:14 AM	#592
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by lol101 That would be a stupid mistake since it would spell the end of using the built-in flash as a commander for wireless flash: Pentax is too inteligent for that. It would be a pity but for me it is an acceptable tradeoff if this OVF/EVF is true. Originally posted by lol101 So either Pentax has indeed found a way to combine optical and electronic VF or... this is just a nice compilation of all the BS running freely on the internet (what? No square FF sensor with APS-H crop mode?) Well that's exactly what a recent patent was all about.

04-21-2009, 02:35 AM	#593
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	At least it is 100% sure that Pentax was working on a Limited body. Here's one of the photos from the famous Ivyjopy's blog. What do we see here? The text "Concept-4 design" and "Goes well with the DSLR Limited Lens"

04-21-2009, 02:38 AM	#594
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by cateto According to information published in Spanish site DSLRMagazine @cateto, as much as I appreciate your post, the Spanish article is nothing but a speculative summary from the exact same source we already analyzed in this thread. Nothing new. And some bits are probably wrong, like the lack of flash deduced from an earlier photo where we probably know better now. Originally posted by eurostar European prices do include VAT I already did a correction and complete prize analysis in post #554: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/565382-post554.html @square sensor discussion: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/491041-post60.html (this post and the entire thread). I.e., nothing new to be discussed here.

04-21-2009, 02:44 AM	#595
StephenG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Photos: Gallery Posts: 107	the date on that photo shows its 2 months old.??

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04-21-2009, 02:57 AM	#596
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by StephenG the date on that photo shows its 2 months old.?? It is, but all those things in the picture together are probably a huge hint at the upcoming camera. The size of the K-m, retro design, modern features, "Limited" design, angular prism... Good find on the new picture - any other ones floating around out there?

04-21-2009, 03:02 AM	#597
cateto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 189	Originally posted by falconeye @cateto, as much as I appreciate your post, the Spanish article is nothing but a speculative summary from the exact same source we already analyzed in this thread. Nothing new. And some bits are probably wrong, like the lack of flash deduced from an earlier photo where we probably know better now. I would not bet that article is purely speculative. For the record, people involved in that magazine are often working under NDA and start posting hints as far as information is becoming undisclosed in the net. I'm not saying it is the case here, but it MIGHT be the case. For instance, the same magazine had extremely accurate information about some new releases from Canon, and it was posted (slightly disguised to avoid issues) with many weeks of advance over other major sites. Just saying.

04-21-2009, 03:12 AM	#599
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by cateto I would not bet that article is purely speculative. For the record, people involved in that magazine are often working under NDA @cateto, I am sure that this may be the case, theoretically. Just not for this article. I've read it in Spanish and it becomes obvious that they know nothing more than us. Esp. their misleading speculation on flash is telling.

04-21-2009, 03:21 AM	#600
cateto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 189	Originally posted by falconeye it becomes obvious that they know nothing more than us. Believe what you will: contrary to some rices, I make no business out of making noise about Pentax. I posted this because I honestly think there is valuable information in that article. Whether others agree or not, it's up to them.