is this pic of K30D?

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Edvinas

I have suspicion that many forum members already have K-7 photos

Interesting, who is going to post them first?

Maybe, they should be leaked in 77 slices each?

Like with the execution commands --- no one can be held guilty

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

5 fps is real, but not with highest resolution

I am concerned about this one.

3.5 fps at 14.6MP are 51.1 MP/s.
5 fps at 14.6MP are 73 MP/s.
1080p@24fps are 49.8 MP/s or already 2/3 of this.

Assuming the camera can read out at 50MP/s, we are left at
5 fps at 10 MP. I would be fine with that, if it isn't lower. I've seen 6 MP somewhere ...

Tommy · 04-29-2009, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

How can anybody NOT have a 1920 screen on their desk? They only cost $139 ...
The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

The 2209W is a tn-panel. I am currently considering the 2209WA, which is an e-IPS panel. Unfortunately it's only 1680x1050, but I think I have to live with that to get better colors at a reasonable price. But you are right, at $139 I could add a 2209W as well....

It'll take a while until I will upgrade to the K-7 anyway, but I still think it would be cool if it had 1920x1080.

/Tommy

TaoMaas · 04-29-2009, 07:37 AM

So.....if modern DSLR's are all going to incorporate HD video, do we need to start carrying tripods with fluid heads? It's one thing to hold steady for 1/30 of a second. It's quite another to hold still for 10 seconds.

gazonk · 04-29-2009, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

So.....if modern DSLR's are all going to incorporate HD video, do we need to start carrying tripods with fluid heads? It's one thing to hold steady for 1/30 of a second. It's quite another to hold still for 10 seconds.

I thought modern movie-making was all about unsteady cams?

Caat · 04-29-2009, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

I am concerned about this one.

3.5 fps at 14.6MP are 51.1 MP/s.
5 fps at 14.6MP are 73 MP/s.
1080p@24fps are 49.8 MP/s or already 2/3 of this.

Assuming the camera can read out at 50MP/s, we are left at
5 fps at 10 MP. I would be fine with that, if it isn't lower. I've seen 6 MP somewhere ...

Yana36 (or whatever he/shes called) claimed 5 fps at 6mp. Ogl I think has claimed the same as Yana (is this a surprise? hmm....

)

I would be fine with 5fps at 10Mp but 5fps at 6mp is weak. It looks like the mirror box won't get upgraded from the K20D then if this is the case. The data through put must be fast enough to handle 10mp at 5fps at least. Remember that the K10D was equipped with DDR Ram capable of reading (and writing?) at 800 mb/sec - clearly the bottle neck is not here assuming the K-7 has the same speed memory or faster.

Gimbal · 04-29-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

I am concerned about this one.

3.5 fps at 14.6MP are 51.1 MP/s.
5 fps at 14.6MP are 73 MP/s.
1080p@24fps are 49.8 MP/s or already 2/3 of this.

Assuming the camera can read out at 50MP/s, we are left at
5 fps at 10 MP. I would be fine with that, if it isn't lower. I've seen 6 MP somewhere ...

But how do they read out the lower 1080-resolution from the sensor? I thought they read the entire sensor and then down sample to movie size. Although that would require some bandwidth…

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

do we need to start carrying tripods with fluid heads?

No, you start to carry a rig.
http://www.chrosziel.de/data/chrosziel/media/doc/InfoPage-DSLR_english.pdf

All of a sudden, it will become much easier to access events

Ah, and here my favorite rig demo video:

click to enjoy

Zav · 04-29-2009, 07:53 AM

wooooh interesting!

soccerjoe5 · 04-29-2009, 07:53 AM

Is there a front dial on this K-7?

EDIT: Oops looks like there is one

and · 04-29-2009, 07:57 AM

front wheel looks tilted upwards quite a bit

TaoMaas · 04-29-2009, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

No, you start to carry a rig.
http://www.chrosziel.de/data/chrosziel/media/doc/InfoPage-DSLR_english.pdf

All of a sudden, it will become much easier to access events

Holy cow! And we're supposed to hand-hold that thing? I'm too old for this stuff.

TaoMaas · 04-29-2009, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

I thought modern movie-making was all about unsteady cams?

I've tried telling that to my producer, but she ain't buyin' it.

and · 04-29-2009, 07:59 AM

Hm, more fps but at lower mp, that would be bad, just a cheating way to get more fps without improving sensor/shutter/mirror. and you wont get the other benefits of more fps, ie a faster shutter (faster sync speed) faster mirror (shorter blackout)

vinzer · 04-29-2009, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Zav

wooooh interesting!

Doesn't look like we'll be getting an AF-assist lamp on this one. Oh well. Let's hope the other probable good specs come to pass, like 5FPS (please let it be at 10MP or more), improved AF, and max shutter speed of 1/8000.

And WR lenses, please!

04-29-2009, 07:41 AM	#1416
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by falconeye I am concerned about this one. 3.5 fps at 14.6MP are 51.1 MP/s. 5 fps at 14.6MP are 73 MP/s. 1080p@24fps are 49.8 MP/s or already 2/3 of this. Assuming the camera can read out at 50MP/s, we are left at 5 fps at 10 MP. I would be fine with that, if it isn't lower. I've seen 6 MP somewhere ... Yana36 (or whatever he/shes called) claimed 5 fps at 6mp. Ogl I think has claimed the same as Yana (is this a surprise? hmm....) I would be fine with 5fps at 10Mp but 5fps at 6mp is weak. It looks like the mirror box won't get upgraded from the K20D then if this is the case. The data through put must be fast enough to handle 10mp at 5fps at least. Remember that the K10D was equipped with DDR Ram capable of reading (and writing?) at 800 mb/sec - clearly the bottle neck is not here assuming the K-7 has the same speed memory or faster.

04-29-2009, 07:51 AM	#1418
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Rig for DSLR video footage Originally posted by TaoMaas do we need to start carrying tripods with fluid heads? No, you start to carry a rig. http://www.chrosziel.de/data/chrosziel/media/doc/InfoPage-DSLR_english.pdf All of a sudden, it will become much easier to access events Ah, and here my favorite rig demo video: click to enjoy Last edited by falconeye; 06-15-2011 at 05:28 AM.

04-29-2009, 08:00 AM	#1425
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by Zav wooooh interesting! Doesn't look like we'll be getting an AF-assist lamp on this one. Oh well. Let's hope the other probable good specs come to pass, like 5FPS (please let it be at 10MP or more), improved AF, and max shutter speed of 1/8000. And WR lenses, please! Last edited by vinzer; 04-29-2009 at 08:14 AM.

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04-29-2009, 07:15 AM	#1411
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Edvinas I have suspicion that many forum members already have K-7 photos Interesting, who is going to post them first? Maybe, they should be leaked in 77 slices each? Like with the execution commands --- no one can be held guilty

04-29-2009, 07:25 AM	#1412
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by RMabo 5 fps is real, but not with highest resolution I am concerned about this one. 3.5 fps at 14.6MP are 51.1 MP/s. 5 fps at 14.6MP are 73 MP/s. 1080p@24fps are 49.8 MP/s or already 2/3 of this. Assuming the camera can read out at 50MP/s, we are left at 5 fps at 10 MP. I would be fine with that, if it isn't lower. I've seen 6 MP somewhere ...

04-29-2009, 07:37 AM	#1413
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 195	Originally posted by falconeye How can anybody NOT have a 1920 screen on their desk? They only cost $139 ... The Dell Online Store: Build Your System The 2209W is a tn-panel. I am currently considering the 2209WA, which is an e-IPS panel. Unfortunately it's only 1680x1050, but I think I have to live with that to get better colors at a reasonable price. But you are right, at $139 I could add a 2209W as well.... It'll take a while until I will upgrade to the K-7 anyway, but I still think it would be cool if it had 1920x1080. /Tommy

04-29-2009, 07:37 AM	#1414
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	So.....if modern DSLR's are all going to incorporate HD video, do we need to start carrying tripods with fluid heads? It's one thing to hold steady for 1/30 of a second. It's quite another to hold still for 10 seconds.

04-29-2009, 07:40 AM	#1415
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by TaoMaas So.....if modern DSLR's are all going to incorporate HD video, do we need to start carrying tripods with fluid heads? It's one thing to hold steady for 1/30 of a second. It's quite another to hold still for 10 seconds. I thought modern movie-making was all about unsteady cams?

04-29-2009, 07:42 AM	#1417
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by falconeye I am concerned about this one. 3.5 fps at 14.6MP are 51.1 MP/s. 5 fps at 14.6MP are 73 MP/s. 1080p@24fps are 49.8 MP/s or already 2/3 of this. Assuming the camera can read out at 50MP/s, we are left at 5 fps at 10 MP. I would be fine with that, if it isn't lower. I've seen 6 MP somewhere ... But how do they read out the lower 1080-resolution from the sensor? I thought they read the entire sensor and then down sample to movie size. Although that would require some bandwidth…

04-29-2009, 07:53 AM	#1419
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,371	wooooh interesting!

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soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	Is there a front dial on this K-7? EDIT: Oops looks like there is one

04-29-2009, 07:57 AM	#1421
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	front wheel looks tilted upwards quite a bit

04-29-2009, 07:58 AM	#1422
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by falconeye No, you start to carry a rig. http://www.chrosziel.de/data/chrosziel/media/doc/InfoPage-DSLR_english.pdf All of a sudden, it will become much easier to access events Holy cow! And we're supposed to hand-hold that thing? I'm too old for this stuff.

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04-29-2009, 07:59 AM	#1423
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by gazonk I thought modern movie-making was all about unsteady cams? I've tried telling that to my producer, but she ain't buyin' it.

04-29-2009, 07:59 AM	#1424
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Hm, more fps but at lower mp, that would be bad, just a cheating way to get more fps without improving sensor/shutter/mirror. and you wont get the other benefits of more fps, ie a faster shutter (faster sync speed) faster mirror (shorter blackout)