Originally posted by Art Vandelay II Blah, so it sounds like business as usual. I really wish Pentax would take their own advice and be interesting. If this camera is made of magnesium then make a silver version (if its plastic don't bother), sue a square sensor or APS-H sensor. Something, anything to stand out a bit. I personally was really hoping for APS-H. I even started calculating some of the lens by 1.25. the 17-70mm would become a 22-87mm. Now to me that is interesting. A standard zoom that starts in the ultra wide territory.
omgomg aps-h would be srsly cool cuz then u no pentax could bring back all the fa lenses but put sdm in them and stuff... like make them telecentric and stuff u kno? that'd be freakin sweet.... and then so theyd have the da lenses for consumers, the da* lenses for advanced ammettures [sic] and then the d-fa* for pros and then the 645 mf lenses for the real pros!! itd be perfect and theyd have more lenses then like nikon and canon combined! whoo pentax!
Originally posted by Art Vandelay II: Take a chance for Christs sake. be interesting.
Yes, please, Pentax. Shoot yourselves in the foot with a new sensor format. Yeah, your MF line isn't enough. You need to have at least three formats going at once before you're really a "pro" manufacturer. BE INTERESTING!
...Yeah. Right. Can we vote to outlaw requests for APS-H / full-frame / square sensors? Please?
Everyone is getting mixed up with field-of-view perspective and depth-of-field and image quality and all that jazz. I grow tired of explaining.
perspective is determined only by the lens-to-subject(s) distance, or, rather, the distance relationships between everything in the frame. If you're photographing a portrait with a 50mm lens, and switch to a 28mm lens, the PERSPECTIVE will be identical. The field-of-view will not be, BUT, if you crop the image, the perspective and field-of-view are identical.
A full-frame 50mm lens has the same perspective AND field-of-view as a 33mm lens does on a 1.5 crop camera. HOWEVER, it *is* true that the full-frame + 50 will have shallower depth-of-field than the 33mm + crop. (assuming they're used at the same aperture)
So, we need to pressure our camera makers to produce faster lenses. Oly has their f/2.0 zooms. Why? So their depth-of-field characteristics are similar to full-frame. And, theoretically, a 50mm f/1.4 lens should have the same field-of-view, perspective, and depth-of-field characteristics on a crop camera as a ~80mm f/2.0 lens does on full-frame. And, heck, the lenses are similar in size.
So there's not much sacrifice.
On to image quality.
There are so many things that we're experimenting with right now that will dramatically change and improve imaging. One of my professors has actually designed and tested a CMOS detector that is responsive to all wavelengths of light. In other words, screw the "red" "green" "blue" array -- just have ONE pixel that detects the actual COLOR of light hitting it (and not the percentage of red, percentage of blue, and percentage of green). It can just as easily detect inferred or ultraviolet, and toward the extremes of the electromagnetic spectrum. Think about it -- you could some day use your Pentax to detect if there's lead in your kid's toys by pointing your camera at it, and running it through a photoshop filter.
This technology will VASTLY improve IQ much more than the switch from crop camera to full-frame ever will.
And there's been several advances to CCD imaging technology that may make it come back for a second round of competition (although CMOS is winning out right now).
Originally posted by Erik This APS-H stuff, to reiterate this for about the hundredth time, makes no sense...
Thank god there's someone else out there...
And square sensor? Huh?
We've discussed this all enough. If you think you need full-frame, go buy a Canon and STFU.
Originally posted by Mats We do not know that the lens is the limiting factor, it could be so that the lens AF speed is PWM controlled to a speed that the AF module in the body can handle. A faster AF module in the body might make it possible to control the lenses in a different way.
Pure speculation, of course...
/Mats
They should just use higher-voltage batteries so the AF motor will spin faster.
Originally posted by omega leader I'm not sure why people are so impressed with metal, thermopastic compounds have exceeded metals in almost all physical performance aspects.
Now if it was bylateral PVC that would be cool.
I really hope it's a solid metal body.
Why? Because nothing is cooler than a big, heavy metal body that has prone to corrosion, has poor temperature resistance performance, and has less strength when compared to thermoplastics. Metal bodies are classic.
Bylateral PVC doesn't have the same imperfections that metal does -- metal bodies have more character.
If Pentax goes with a plastic body, the terrorists have already won.