is this pic of K30D?

blende8 · 05-10-2009, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by mcjm78

Other new feature
Every photographer will cry for the feature.
Only Pentax make it. Other maker could not do it.

Hint ... from K10D idea
This feature is the most surprise of K-7

What may this be?
I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry.
"from K10D idea"?

fejker · 05-10-2009, 08:29 AM

Maybe a new improved multiple exposure program?

soccerjoe5 · 05-10-2009, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What may this be?
I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry.
"from K10D idea"?

What're the things that made the K10 unique? Maybe the weather seals? That was something quite awesome.

illdefined · 05-10-2009, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What may this be?
I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry.
"from K10D idea"?

i think he meant the original hype/hope of the K10D. what was the biggest unfulfilled rumor about the K10D?

jeffkrol · 05-10-2009, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by mcjm78

latest cut and paste from another forum..

像倍率…1.0倍視野率95%

長時間露光時…NRオフ設定可能

外装…マグネシウム合金

AFセンサー…全くの新規

連写…５コマ超８コマ未満

バッテリー…新規互換性なし

フォーカスブラケット…なし

仙台会場開催前に発売…６月中旬

動画有り

上記の他に他社にない全く新しい機能を搭載

これは写真好き、カメラ好きが泣きそうな機能とか…

ペンタックスだからできる新機能だそうです。

他社には真似出来ないとか…

布石はK10Dから打ってあるらしいのがヒントですね…

この機能が今回一番のサプライズだそうで

センサーもかなり改良が入ってる模様です。

and the attempted translation from the author (imatom)..

OK, I tried.
-------------
Viewfinder
Magnification 1.0
Frame coverage 95%

Long Exposure ... NR Off enable/disable
Material ... Magnesium Alloy Chassis
AF sensor ... New type
Continuous shooting ... 5~8fps
Power... New type Li
No focus bracketting
Available from mid June
Movie ... yes

Other new feature
Every photographer will cry for the feature.
Only Pentax make it. Other maker could not do it.

Hint ... from K10D idea
This feature is the most surprise of K-7

CCD sensor improved a lot of ...

Is this the same (or part of) as that?
Rumor from Japan: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

箇条書きすると

1 実物をすでに見ている。（もうほぼ完成済み）
2 K20Dの後継機ではない。

3 K10D発売当初ばりのなみの驚き（K20Dについては軽くスルー）

4 CMOSはK20Dのリメイクバージョン

5 PRIMEが PRIME2にバージョンアップ

6 好感度ノイズはK20Dの倍くらいの低ノイズだそう。

7 問題のAFはかなりの性能アップ

8 ファインダーも期待してくださいとのこと

9 他社に入っているものは全部入れました

10 価格は15～16万程度になりそう

11 DA60-250mmの発売の遅れは新機種との調整のため

12 K30Dは早くても年末。あくまでも645Dの開発発売が優先
1. The real machine has been seen
2, Not a successor of K20D
3, The same level of surprise as K10D
4, Improved CMOS from K20D
5, PRIME ---> PRIME 2
6, The noise control has 100% improvement ?
7, The AF has great improvement
8, VF is worthy "waiting"
9, Functions from other rivals are included
10, THe price is around 150,000 to 160,000 Yen
11, THe delayed launch of DA 60-250 is due to the adjustment with new body
12, K30D will be lanuched at the end of this years. 645D is the first priority.

Hope it's true
Really Looking forward to the New K
(hope the translation is alright, my English is not that good)

jeffkrol · 05-10-2009, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What may this be?
I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry.
"from K10D idea"?

About the only "surprise" w/ the k10 was the 22bit overkill ADC and arguably the largest DR of all APS-c's at the time. Not to mention the "uneven" AA filter... hmmmm

ytterbium · 05-10-2009, 09:13 AM

Quote:

CCD sensor improved a lot of ...

CCD? I believe this is an erroneous way of referring to simply sensor.
Seems unlikely because of movie and CMOS sensor in k20d.
Just a note.

Btw.. is there any picture which can clearly show that K-7 doesn't have built in grip?
I've seen people writing about new grip but it may be anything.

Torphoto · 05-10-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by ytterbium

CCD? I believe this is an erroneous way of referring to simply sensor.
Seems unlikely because of movie and CMOS sensor in k20d.
Just a note.

Btw.. is there any picture which can clearly show that K-7 doesn't have built in grip?
I've seen people writing about new grip but it may be anything.

The fact there is a BG-4 grip as an option says the grip is not built in, unless they are shipping it with the cameras.

Prognathous · 05-10-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

About the only "surprise" w/ the k10 was the 22bit overkill ADC and arguably the largest DR of all APS-c's at the time. Not to mention the "uneven" AA filter... hmmmm

The biggest surprise of the K10D was the phenomenal value for money. It had most D200 features (including the seals) + some D2X-level features (multiple cross-type AF sensors) for $1000 MSRP. I couldn't believe it when I saw it, but it was true. Too bad I was (and still am) heavily invested in A-mount to justify a switch.

Prog.

whatever7 · 05-10-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I don't think it's genuine, even if several items are probably true. This, assuming the translation is accurate.
I mean, 8fps? A Pentax? No chance in h*ll!

Maybe for cropped cropped format? Like shotting 4/3 image on the APS-C sensor.

**rparmar** · 05-10-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

Not to mention the "uneven" AA filter... hmmmm

So, they've removed the AA filter in the K-7.

Or, incredible though it may be, it is user-switchable!

That would be an insane feature for pixel head tweakers. And Pentax would be the only ones to offer it.

ryan s · 05-10-2009, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by jmbradd

if thats real it means the k-7 gives me the oppurtunity to switch, af modes, execute af and switch to live view with one misguided thumb =)

I find myself cursing my K20d since it won't AF when I hit the AF button only to find out i'm hitting the exposure compensation buttton!

I do have one request, an AF button on the battery grip!

An AF button on the grip would be awesome...

Originally posted by vinzer

I reckon I'm not the only one, too. There are many K10/200/20D users out there that will benefit from that.

The current kit lenses sell used for less than $100 (generally). If an 18-55 WR comes in around $100 used, that'll be perfect to hold out for the 16-50

Originally posted by whatever7

I don't know about you guys. I wouldn't use a $1500+ camera body (K-7) in the rain. It's not worth the risk. Plus what can you shot if its raining hard?

But I can rock a K200D, or maybe just get a used DS. Put a rain jacket on and I can save the money on a DA* weather seal lens. Iff the DS stop working no big lose.

Have you ever seen the videos where a camera has a body cap taped to it and put under the kitchen faucet?

It's not so much that we "shoot in the rain"...I would like one so that I don't have to say "oh sh$t I can't let this get wet" when I don't have a bag or something to cover it on hand. Or to go out when it's snowing.

ryan s · 05-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by jct us101

What is this thread even about?

Is this an honest question? If so, I have a summary in my humble

blog (if you want the link let me know).

blende8 · 05-10-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What may this be?
I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry.
"from K10D idea"?

I hope it's not GPS!
What I can fantasize about is some DR thing, area selective ISO ...

Kunzite · 05-10-2009, 10:56 AM

I can think of only one such thing. A logical extension to existing technology, only to a certain extent implemented on other cameras - but with a new, very interesting functionality that can be made possible only on Pentax cameras - given the technological choices they made in the past.
Hmm... maybe, this is it?

(trying to be mysterious, let's see if anyone believes me

)

05-10-2009, 09:44 AM	#2141
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	completely hypothetical... Originally posted by jeffkrol Not to mention the "uneven" AA filter... hmmmm So, they've removed the AA filter in the K-7. Or, incredible though it may be, it is user-switchable! That would be an insane feature for pixel head tweakers. And Pentax would be the only ones to offer it.

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05-10-2009, 08:16 AM	#2131
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by mcjm78 Other new feature Every photographer will cry for the feature. Only Pentax make it. Other maker could not do it. Hint ... from K10D idea This feature is the most surprise of K-7 What may this be? I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry. "from K10D idea"?

05-10-2009, 08:29 AM	#2132
fejker Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	Maybe a new improved multiple exposure program?

05-10-2009, 08:43 AM	#2133
soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	Originally posted by blende8 What may this be? I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry. "from K10D idea"? What're the things that made the K10 unique? Maybe the weather seals? That was something quite awesome.

05-10-2009, 08:46 AM	#2134
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by blende8 What may this be? I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry. "from K10D idea"? i think he meant the original hype/hope of the K10D. what was the biggest unfulfilled rumor about the K10D?

05-10-2009, 08:58 AM	#2135
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by mcjm78 latest cut and paste from another forum.. 像倍率…1.0倍視野率95% 長時間露光時…NRオフ設定可能外装…マグネシウム合金 AFセンサー…全くの新規連写…５コマ超８コマ未満バッテリー…新規互換性なしフォーカスブラケット…なし仙台会場開催前に発売…６月中旬動画有り上記の他に他社にない全く新しい機能を搭載これは写真好き、カメラ好きが泣きそうな機能とか… ペンタックスだからできる新機能だそうです。他社には真似出来ないとか… 布石はK10Dから打ってあるらしいのがヒントですね… この機能が今回一番のサプライズだそうでセンサーもかなり改良が入ってる模様です。 and the attempted translation from the author (imatom).. OK, I tried. ------------- Viewfinder Magnification 1.0 Frame coverage 95% Long Exposure ... NR Off enable/disable Material ... Magnesium Alloy Chassis AF sensor ... New type Continuous shooting ... 5~8fps Power... New type Li No focus bracketting Available from mid June Movie ... yes Other new feature Every photographer will cry for the feature. Only Pentax make it. Other maker could not do it. Hint ... from K10D idea This feature is the most surprise of K-7 CCD sensor improved a lot of ... Is this the same (or part of) as that? Rumor from Japan: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review 箇条書きすると 1 実物をすでに見ている。（もうほぼ完成済み） 2 K20Dの後継機ではない。 3 K10D発売当初ばりのなみの驚き（K20Dについては軽くスルー） 4 CMOSはK20Dのリメイクバージョン 5 PRIMEが PRIME2にバージョンアップ 6 好感度ノイズはK20Dの倍くらいの低ノイズだそう。 7 問題のAFはかなりの性能アップ 8 ファインダーも期待してくださいとのこと 9 他社に入っているものは全部入れました 10 価格は15～16万程度になりそう 11 DA60-250mmの発売の遅れは新機種との調整のため 12 K30Dは早くても年末。あくまでも645Dの開発発売が優先 1. The real machine has been seen 2, Not a successor of K20D 3, The same level of surprise as K10D 4, Improved CMOS from K20D 5, PRIME ---> PRIME 2 6, The noise control has 100% improvement ? 7, The AF has great improvement 8, VF is worthy "waiting" 9, Functions from other rivals are included 10, THe price is around 150,000 to 160,000 Yen 11, THe delayed launch of DA 60-250 is due to the adjustment with new body 12, K30D will be lanuched at the end of this years. 645D is the first priority. Hope it's true Really Looking forward to the New K (hope the translation is alright, my English is not that good)

05-10-2009, 09:01 AM	#2136
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by blende8 What may this be? I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry. "from K10D idea"? About the only "surprise" w/ the k10 was the 22bit overkill ADC and arguably the largest DR of all APS-c's at the time. Not to mention the "uneven" AA filter... hmmmm

05-10-2009, 09:13 AM	#2137
ytterbium Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,076	Quote: CCD sensor improved a lot of ... CCD? I believe this is an erroneous way of referring to simply sensor. Seems unlikely because of movie and CMOS sensor in k20d. Just a note. Btw.. is there any picture which can clearly show that K-7 doesn't have built in grip? I've seen people writing about new grip but it may be anything.

05-10-2009, 09:22 AM	#2138
Torphoto Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trinidad W.I. Photos: Gallery Posts: 612	Originally posted by ytterbium CCD? I believe this is an erroneous way of referring to simply sensor. Seems unlikely because of movie and CMOS sensor in k20d. Just a note. Btw.. is there any picture which can clearly show that K-7 doesn't have built in grip? I've seen people writing about new grip but it may be anything. The fact there is a BG-4 grip as an option says the grip is not built in, unless they are shipping it with the cameras.

05-10-2009, 09:37 AM	#2139
Prognathous Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 102	Originally posted by jeffkrol About the only "surprise" w/ the k10 was the 22bit overkill ADC and arguably the largest DR of all APS-c's at the time. Not to mention the "uneven" AA filter... hmmmm The biggest surprise of the K10D was the phenomenal value for money. It had most D200 features (including the seals) + some D2X-level features (multiple cross-type AF sensors) for $1000 MSRP. I couldn't believe it when I saw it, but it was true. Too bad I was (and still am) heavily invested in A-mount to justify a switch. Prog.

05-10-2009, 09:37 AM	#2140
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	Originally posted by Kunzite I don't think it's genuine, even if several items are probably true. This, assuming the translation is accurate. I mean, 8fps? A Pentax? No chance in h*ll! Maybe for cropped cropped format? Like shotting 4/3 image on the APS-C sensor.

05-10-2009, 10:02 AM	#2142
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Originally posted by jmbradd if thats real it means the k-7 gives me the oppurtunity to switch, af modes, execute af and switch to live view with one misguided thumb =) I find myself cursing my K20d since it won't AF when I hit the AF button only to find out i'm hitting the exposure compensation buttton! I do have one request, an AF button on the battery grip! An AF button on the grip would be awesome... Originally posted by vinzer I reckon I'm not the only one, too. There are many K10/200/20D users out there that will benefit from that. The current kit lenses sell used for less than $100 (generally). If an 18-55 WR comes in around $100 used, that'll be perfect to hold out for the 16-50 Originally posted by whatever7 I don't know about you guys. I wouldn't use a $1500+ camera body (K-7) in the rain. It's not worth the risk. Plus what can you shot if its raining hard? But I can rock a K200D, or maybe just get a used DS. Put a rain jacket on and I can save the money on a DA* weather seal lens. Iff the DS stop working no big lose. Have you ever seen the videos where a camera has a body cap taped to it and put under the kitchen faucet? It's not so much that we "shoot in the rain"...I would like one so that I don't have to say "oh sh$t I can't let this get wet" when I don't have a bag or something to cover it on hand. Or to go out when it's snowing.

05-10-2009, 10:06 AM	#2143
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Originally posted by jct us101 What is this thread even about? Is this an honest question? If so, I have a summary in my humble blog (if you want the link let me know).

05-10-2009, 10:46 AM	#2144
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by blende8 What may this be? I twist my brain but can't think of anything that would make me cry. "from K10D idea"? I hope it's not GPS! What I can fantasize about is some DR thing, area selective ISO ...

05-10-2009, 10:56 AM	#2145
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I can think of only one such thing. A logical extension to existing technology, only to a certain extent implemented on other cameras - but with a new, very interesting functionality that can be made possible only on Pentax cameras - given the technological choices they made in the past. Hmm... maybe, this is it? (trying to be mysterious, let's see if anyone believes me )