is this pic of K30D?

thibs · 05-17-2009, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by DAZ

I thought I had been following this thread closely (but it is so long I may have missed it) but I don’t remember anything about this. This is from the flickr New Pentax K model pool. pentax_k_7_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!. What are the things above the flash that look like LEDs? Are they LEDs for low light focus assist?

DAZ

It has been dismissed as a fake from a PSed K-m/K2000 flash.

**DAZ** · 05-17-2009, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by thibs

It has been dismissed as a fake from a PSed K-m/K2000 flash.

Thank, sorry I missed that.

DAZ

thibs · 05-17-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by DAZ

Thank, sorry I missed that.

DAZ

No prob

That said it would be nice

jsherman999 · 05-17-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by janneman

yeah it is momentum based as far as I know but it could be "taught"to respond to camera movement as a result of pressing the button based on movement.
Then IF we get GPS in a camera it may be able to respond to that or maybe somewhere deep in the body is a small gyroscope

I think GPS is accurate to a few meters. That's some pretty serious shake!

.

RaduA · 05-17-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by kolouch

Really 1/180? If it is true I am going to nikon .. good bye white, orange, green, yellow pentax without improved basic functions

It would make me a special pleasure to close the door behind your whiner's ... well behind. I hope that you have the money for D400 (and that Nikon releases it) and VR lenses.

Bye!
Radu

illdefined · 05-17-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by KungPOW

I think Z axis movement of the camera would produce the least affect on focus, when compaired to either X or Y movement. You are right, unless your DOF is very shallow, the camera would need to move a distance greater then the sensor could compensate before Z axis SR would be useful.

But, camera rotation on the X and the Y axis would cause image blur as easily as movement along X & Y.

And you cannot compensate for X/Y yaw without allowing the sensor to move on the Z axis. A simple linear movement would not be enough, the sensor would need to tilt side to side and up and down.

It is the addition of SR to compensate for X/Y axis camera rotation that I think would be the big step forward. Z axis movement compensation would be a minor addition.

The whole principle of SR is to cancel out camera movement using only inversely proportional X Y sensor movement. It's geared to undercompensate rather than overcompensate so that any image blur is still 'your fault'. It's shake Reduction, not Elimination, much less 'Generation'.

PentaxPoke · 05-17-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by DAZ

I thought I had been following this thread closely (but it is so long I may have missed it) but I don’t remember anything about this. This is from the flickr New Pentax K model pool. pentax_k_7_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!. What are the things above the flash that look like LEDs? Are they LEDs for low light focus assist?

DAZ

I noticed the same thing. Do you think they may be continuous LED's for video shooting?

illdefined · 05-17-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by janneman

yeah it is momentum based as far as I know but it could be "taught"to respond to camera movement as a result of pressing the button based on movement.
Then IF we get GPS in a camera it may be able to respond to that or maybe somewhere deep in the body is a small gyroscope

SR doesn't 'move' the sensor as much as try and keep it in one place relative to the camera. It's just a little mushier than it was fixed, allowing momentum to do any of the controlling. there's no motors, only brakes.

pederd · 05-17-2009, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by KungPOW

Yes, thats 3 degrees of movement (yaw on Z axis, plus travel on X & Y). I'm wondering if Pentax has figured out how to cover the other 3, giving us SR for all 6 degrees of movement.

And, yes movement along the Z axis would affect focus. That is the point. If the camera shake is along the Z axis, then to keep the object in focus, you need to move the sensor along the Z axis.

There is a Pentax patent (don't have a link to it, sorry) that incorporate the AF with SR to compensate for movement along the z-axis.

**DAZ** · 05-17-2009, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by PentaxPoke

I noticed the same thing. Do you think they may be continuous LED's for video shooting?

I was thinking along those lines. I have a LED headlamp that is so bright that you don’t want to look at it when it is on in a dark room so it is doable. But if it is a fake has anyone seen the K-7 with the flash deplored?

DAZ

falconeye · 05-17-2009, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Krg

The Pentax K7 on film festival "Festival de Cannes" (french speaking)

This linked to a fake video.
This, however, is real
Orange Cinma Sries

Vaikis_ · 05-17-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

This linked to a fake video.
This, however, is real
Orange Cinma Sries

we love you too

keltia666 · 05-17-2009, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

Before the confusion gets out of control here ...
The K-7 firmware can correct for distortion and CA for DA and DFA lenses, only. From the K-7 press release.

Which means that it will not do that for the FA Limited? My 31mm could really use that when used at f1.8...

dopeytree · 05-17-2009, 12:39 PM

Notice just two photos down on his blog

http://ivyjopy.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&...26ayear%3d2009

He states that another photos is shot on a k20d with the fisheye lens but notice this one doesn't state the camera. I know it's not exactly a good sample but still I think it is a sample from the K-7

Steelski · 05-17-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by dopeytree

Notice just two photos down on his blog

[/URL]http://ivyjopy.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=amonth%3d4%26ayear%3d2009[/URL]

He states that another photos is shot on a k20d with the fisheye lens but notice this one doesn't state the camera. I know it's not exactly a good sample but still I think it is a sample from the K-7

Notice also this page of the blog shows a lot of pictures with no camera designation at the birthday party.... but later in the same party the K200D is mentioned in every picture.
I am 50/50 on it being the K-7. But the pictures really tell nothing unless we gave bigger ones and exif data
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05-17-2009, 11:17 AM	#3121
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by DAZ I thought I had been following this thread closely (but it is so long I may have missed it) but I don’t remember anything about this. This is from the flickr New Pentax K model pool. pentax_k_7_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!. What are the things above the flash that look like LEDs? Are they LEDs for low light focus assist? DAZ It has been dismissed as a fake from a PSed K-m/K2000 flash.

05-17-2009, 11:18 AM	#3122
DAZ Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everett, WA USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 744	Originally posted by thibs It has been dismissed as a fake from a PSed K-m/K2000 flash. Thank, sorry I missed that. DAZ

05-17-2009, 11:21 AM	#3123
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by DAZ Thank, sorry I missed that. DAZ No prob That said it would be nice

05-17-2009, 11:26 AM	#3124
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by janneman yeah it is momentum based as far as I know but it could be "taught"to respond to camera movement as a result of pressing the button based on movement. Then IF we get GPS in a camera it may be able to respond to that or maybe somewhere deep in the body is a small gyroscope I think GPS is accurate to a few meters. That's some pretty serious shake! .

05-17-2009, 11:32 AM	#3125
RaduA Guest	Originally posted by kolouch Really 1/180? If it is true I am going to nikon .. good bye white, orange, green, yellow pentax without improved basic functions It would make me a special pleasure to close the door behind your whiner's ... well behind. I hope that you have the money for D400 (and that Nikon releases it) and VR lenses. Bye! Radu

05-17-2009, 11:44 AM	#3126
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by KungPOW I think Z axis movement of the camera would produce the least affect on focus, when compaired to either X or Y movement. You are right, unless your DOF is very shallow, the camera would need to move a distance greater then the sensor could compensate before Z axis SR would be useful. But, camera rotation on the X and the Y axis would cause image blur as easily as movement along X & Y. And you cannot compensate for X/Y yaw without allowing the sensor to move on the Z axis. A simple linear movement would not be enough, the sensor would need to tilt side to side and up and down. It is the addition of SR to compensate for X/Y axis camera rotation that I think would be the big step forward. Z axis movement compensation would be a minor addition. The whole principle of SR is to cancel out camera movement using only inversely proportional X Y sensor movement. It's geared to undercompensate rather than overcompensate so that any image blur is still 'your fault'. It's shake Reduction, not Elimination, much less 'Generation'.

05-17-2009, 11:48 AM	#3127
PentaxPoke Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,411	Originally posted by DAZ I thought I had been following this thread closely (but it is so long I may have missed it) but I don’t remember anything about this. This is from the flickr New Pentax K model pool. pentax_k_7_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!. What are the things above the flash that look like LEDs? Are they LEDs for low light focus assist? DAZ I noticed the same thing. Do you think they may be continuous LED's for video shooting?

05-17-2009, 11:50 AM	#3128
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by janneman yeah it is momentum based as far as I know but it could be "taught"to respond to camera movement as a result of pressing the button based on movement. Then IF we get GPS in a camera it may be able to respond to that or maybe somewhere deep in the body is a small gyroscope SR doesn't 'move' the sensor as much as try and keep it in one place relative to the camera. It's just a little mushier than it was fixed, allowing momentum to do any of the controlling. there's no motors, only brakes.

05-17-2009, 12:00 PM	#3129
pederd New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norrtälje, Sweden Posts: 14	Originally posted by KungPOW Yes, thats 3 degrees of movement (yaw on Z axis, plus travel on X & Y). I'm wondering if Pentax has figured out how to cover the other 3, giving us SR for all 6 degrees of movement. And, yes movement along the Z axis would affect focus. That is the point. If the camera shake is along the Z axis, then to keep the object in focus, you need to move the sensor along the Z axis. There is a Pentax patent (don't have a link to it, sorry) that incorporate the AF with SR to compensate for movement along the z-axis.

05-17-2009, 12:03 PM	#3130
DAZ Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everett, WA USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 744	Originally posted by PentaxPoke I noticed the same thing. Do you think they may be continuous LED's for video shooting? I was thinking along those lines. I have a LED headlamp that is so bright that you don’t want to look at it when it is on in a dark room so it is doable. But if it is a fake has anyone seen the K-7 with the flash deplored? DAZ

05-17-2009, 12:18 PM	#3131
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Krg The Pentax K7 on film festival "Festival de Cannes" (french speaking) This linked to a fake video. This, however, is real Orange Cinma Sries

05-17-2009, 12:28 PM	#3132
Vaikis_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213	Originally posted by falconeye This linked to a fake video. This, however, is real Orange Cinma Sries we love you too

05-17-2009, 12:33 PM	#3133
keltia666 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Photos: Gallery Posts: 36	Originally posted by falconeye Before the confusion gets out of control here ... The K-7 firmware can correct for distortion and CA for DA and DFA lenses, only. From the K-7 press release. Which means that it will not do that for the FA Limited? My 31mm could really use that when used at f1.8...

05-17-2009, 12:39 PM	#3134
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	Notice just two photos down on his blog http://ivyjopy.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&...26ayear%3d2009 He states that another photos is shot on a k20d with the fisheye lens but notice this one doesn't state the camera. I know it's not exactly a good sample but still I think it is a sample from the K-7

05-17-2009, 01:06 PM	#3135
Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470	Originally posted by dopeytree Notice just two photos down on his blog [/URL]http://ivyjopy.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=amonth%3d4%26ayear%3d2009[/URL] He states that another photos is shot on a k20d with the fisheye lens but notice this one doesn't state the camera. I know it's not exactly a good sample but still I think it is a sample from the K-7 Notice also this page of the blog shows a lot of pictures with no camera designation at the birthday party.... but later in the same party the K200D is mentioned in every picture. I am 50/50 on it being the K-7. But the pictures really tell nothing unless we gave bigger ones and exif data YJP的幸福数码生活: May, 2009