is this pic of K30D?

and · 05-18-2009, 09:43 AM

I guess the secret feature would be the auto HDR option. if thats true. Would hope they included the option of making a single HDR image so you could do the tone mapping yourself.

seems they still dont have 14 bit raw?

dont understand why they cant get the x sync up when everyone else can even on low end models. thought if they increased the max shutter they would increase x sync too. and why dont they just make an electronic shutter like the old nikon d70 then u can sync at any speed.

otherwise if its true it looks very promising. finally got the fps up a bit. and new af. after trying the km i was atualy very impressed with its af, it seemed way better than the k20d and felt more like canikon. ie fast and direct no stuttering slowly into focus bit by bit, hell of a lot better than my k10

ogl · 05-18-2009, 09:48 AM

Let's wait 1 day till official specs and big preview of camera.

illdefined · 05-18-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by ManuH

Yeah, what is the secret feature?

More importantly, what's the big concept separating the K-7 from the K-20? Size?
Metal? Is that enough?

From what we currently know, the K-7 simply feels like an all around well-specced K20 Super Mini (or K30 even). It doesn't seem different enough to be a wholly new 'concept'.

ryan s · 05-18-2009, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by illdefined

More importantly, what's the big concept separating the K-7 from the K-20? Size?
Metal? Is that enough?

From what we currently know, the K-7 simply feels like an all around well-specced K20 Super Mini (or K30 even). It doesn't seem different enough to be a wholly new 'concept'.

The K-7 and K20 share the same sensor for sure...soooooo...what else is new? How about "everything but the sensor"?

Turo · 05-18-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Let's wait 1 day till official specs and big preview of camera.

So, there is still any surprise waiting for us?

jeffkrol · 05-18-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by Turo

So, there is still any surprise waiting for us?

Like image quality... but who needs that..

illdefined · 05-18-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by ryan s

The K-7 and K20 share the same sensor for sure...soooooo...what else is new? How about "everything but the sensor"?

They couldve made an entirely new concept with the K20's sensor. Upgrading the sensor wouldve just been another incremental upgrade like everything else. A mere incremental upgrading of specs is far from a 'new concept'

Mike.P® · 05-18-2009, 10:11 AM

This has no doubt been mentioned before but I cant be bothered to trawl through 3000 posts. Can someone tell be what the small wheel is between the flash and raw buttons.

Nitrok · 05-18-2009, 10:11 AM

Anyone checked RiceHigh's K-7 specs yet?
RiceHigh's Pentax Blog

zntgrg · 05-18-2009, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by illdefined

More importantly, what's the big concept separating the K-7 from the K-20? Size?
Metal? Is that enough?

From what we currently know, the K-7 simply feels like an all around well-specced K20 Super Mini (or K30 even). It doesn't seem different enough to be a wholly new 'concept'.

The k7 user is very different! Those who likes K20 will feel at home [with grip attached

] and many other who bashed the K20 as "too big to carry around" will love it...THIS is the change of concept.

thibs · 05-18-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

This has no doubt been mentioned before but I cant be bothered to trawl through 3000 posts. Can someone tell be what the small wheel is between the flash and raw buttons.

Flash sync terminal.

and · 05-18-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

This has no doubt been mentioned before but I cant be bothered to trawl through 3000 posts. Can someone tell be what the small wheel is between the flash and raw buttons.

its not a wheel its the cover for the flash pc sync port, same as k20

Mike.P® · 05-18-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by and

its not a wheel its the cover for the flash pc sync port, same as k20

Ah ok, thanks.
Jumped the K20D so never really took any interest in it

soccerjoe5 · 05-18-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by and

its not a wheel its the cover for the flash pc sync port, same as k20

Wish it was tethered so I wouldn't lose it easily.

illdefined · 05-18-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by zntgrg

The k7 user is very different! Those who likes K20 will feel at home [with grip attached

] and many other who bashed the K20 as "too big to carry around" will love it...THIS is the change of concept.

You could be right. From the pictures, the K-7 always just looked liked...a camera. But without seeing it in person, maybe I'm underestimating the size difference. Maybe small and metal could be 'the' concept, but it's gonna be a tough sell for Pentax on camera imagery alone. Would have even more reason to keep relying on "just hold a Pentax"...

05-18-2009, 09:50 AM	#3288
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by ManuH Yeah, what is the secret feature? More importantly, what's the big concept separating the K-7 from the K-20? Size? Metal? Is that enough? From what we currently know, the K-7 simply feels like an all around well-specced K20 Super Mini (or K30 even). It doesn't seem different enough to be a wholly new 'concept'. Last edited by illdefined; 05-18-2009 at 09:56 AM.

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05-18-2009, 09:43 AM	#3286
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	I guess the secret feature would be the auto HDR option. if thats true. Would hope they included the option of making a single HDR image so you could do the tone mapping yourself. seems they still dont have 14 bit raw? dont understand why they cant get the x sync up when everyone else can even on low end models. thought if they increased the max shutter they would increase x sync too. and why dont they just make an electronic shutter like the old nikon d70 then u can sync at any speed. otherwise if its true it looks very promising. finally got the fps up a bit. and new af. after trying the km i was atualy very impressed with its af, it seemed way better than the k20d and felt more like canikon. ie fast and direct no stuttering slowly into focus bit by bit, hell of a lot better than my k10

05-18-2009, 09:48 AM	#3287
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Let's wait 1 day till official specs and big preview of camera.

05-18-2009, 10:01 AM	#3289
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Originally posted by illdefined More importantly, what's the big concept separating the K-7 from the K-20? Size? Metal? Is that enough? From what we currently know, the K-7 simply feels like an all around well-specced K20 Super Mini (or K30 even). It doesn't seem different enough to be a wholly new 'concept'. The K-7 and K20 share the same sensor for sure...soooooo...what else is new? How about "everything but the sensor"?

05-18-2009, 10:05 AM	#3290
Turo Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chengdu Posts: 31	Originally posted by ogl Let's wait 1 day till official specs and big preview of camera. So, there is still any surprise waiting for us?

05-18-2009, 10:08 AM	#3291
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by Turo So, there is still any surprise waiting for us? Like image quality... but who needs that..

05-18-2009, 10:08 AM	#3292
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by ryan s The K-7 and K20 share the same sensor for sure...soooooo...what else is new? How about "everything but the sensor"? They couldve made an entirely new concept with the K20's sensor. Upgrading the sensor wouldve just been another incremental upgrade like everything else. A mere incremental upgrading of specs is far from a 'new concept'

05-18-2009, 10:11 AM	#3293
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	This has no doubt been mentioned before but I cant be bothered to trawl through 3000 posts. Can someone tell be what the small wheel is between the flash and raw buttons.

05-18-2009, 10:11 AM	#3294
Nitrok Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,275	Anyone checked RiceHigh's K-7 specs yet? RiceHigh's Pentax Blog

05-18-2009, 10:12 AM	#3295
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Originally posted by illdefined More importantly, what's the big concept separating the K-7 from the K-20? Size? Metal? Is that enough? From what we currently know, the K-7 simply feels like an all around well-specced K20 Super Mini (or K30 even). It doesn't seem different enough to be a wholly new 'concept'. The k7 user is very different! Those who likes K20 will feel at home [with grip attached ] and many other who bashed the K20 as "too big to carry around" will love it...THIS is the change of concept.

05-18-2009, 10:17 AM	#3296
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mike.P® This has no doubt been mentioned before but I cant be bothered to trawl through 3000 posts. Can someone tell be what the small wheel is between the flash and raw buttons. Flash sync terminal.

05-18-2009, 10:17 AM	#3297
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by Mike.P® This has no doubt been mentioned before but I cant be bothered to trawl through 3000 posts. Can someone tell be what the small wheel is between the flash and raw buttons. its not a wheel its the cover for the flash pc sync port, same as k20

05-18-2009, 10:19 AM	#3298
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by and its not a wheel its the cover for the flash pc sync port, same as k20 Ah ok, thanks. Jumped the K20D so never really took any interest in it

05-18-2009, 10:20 AM	#3299
soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	Originally posted by and its not a wheel its the cover for the flash pc sync port, same as k20 Wish it was tethered so I wouldn't lose it easily.

05-18-2009, 10:24 AM	#3300
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by zntgrg The k7 user is very different! Those who likes K20 will feel at home [with grip attached ] and many other who bashed the K20 as "too big to carry around" will love it...THIS is the change of concept. You could be right. From the pictures, the K-7 always just looked liked...a camera. But without seeing it in person, maybe I'm underestimating the size difference. Maybe small and metal could be 'the' concept, but it's gonna be a tough sell for Pentax on camera imagery alone. Would have even more reason to keep relying on "just hold a Pentax"...