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muustuus · 05-20-2009, 05:37 PM

Pages in japan are now showing information too.
Lovely diagrams.

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New program looks promising too.

ddhytz · 05-20-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

pentax.de had sample images of the K-7. ...
My impression:

The DNGs opened in ACR and looked no different from those of a K20D. ...

This doesn't sound very good - I was hoping better IQ.

arpaagent · 05-20-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by ddhytz

This doesn't sound very good - I was hoping better IQ.

The question may be how much better can you expect something to be at ISO200. Tell me what is wrong with the K20D images that you would like corrected. We have yet to see any representative samples with production firmware at high ISO in low light, so there is no reason to get grumpy yet...

Jodokast96 · 05-20-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by dave sz

so 2x the price of the normal non WR 18-55 just cause of weather seals? Don't know what the 550-200 goes for but it sounds more reasonable...

I could be wrong, but wasn't the initial MSRP of the nearly $200? I'd expect the actual price to be somewhat less.

muustuus · 05-20-2009, 05:48 PM

"Endurance is more than 10 million shots." Says the Pentax Japan site of the shutter construction.

And composition assistance seems to be 1mm on every direction and 2 degree rotation with SR off. Lower figures with SR on.

falconeye · 05-20-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by ddhytz

This doesn't sound very good - I was hoping better IQ.

To be specific: By "looked like from a K20D" I meant: Perfect IQ only limited by the lens.

falconeye · 05-20-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by muustuus

"Endurance is more than 10 million shots." Says the Pentax Japan site of the shutter construction.

I entered 10 million into my country converter for Japan and it told me "100,000". So, everything is consistent

**rparmar** · 05-20-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by muustuus

And composition assistance seems to be 1mm on every direction and 2 degree rotation with SR off. Lower figures with SR on.

But SR won't be on when using a tripod. Odd.

muustuus · 05-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

I entered 10 million into my country converter for Japan and it told me "100,000". So, everything is consistent

Yeah after my post I noticed some other numbers are weird too.

Looks more realistic now.

falconeye · 05-20-2009, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by muustuus

Yeah after my post I noticed some other numbers are weird too.

Looks more realistic now.

That was a joke

The Yen to Dollar conversion isn't expected to convert shutter activations too

Light_Horseman · 05-20-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by keltia666

No FA (so no FA-Limited) there

Let's hope Pentax does the smart thing and release some D FA limiteds!!!!

Jodokast96 · 05-20-2009, 07:29 PM

Here's one thing I don't recall anyone bringing up. Is SR going to properly support TC's or MF zooms?

dave sz · 05-20-2009, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Jodokast96

I could be wrong, but wasn't the initial MSRP of the nearly $200? I'd expect the actual price to be somewhat less.

Probably. The Pentax 18-55mm AL II is ~$130 on ebay. That will most likely fall to under $800 when the WR kit comes out. Then again maybe not. tHE 50-200mm seems like a good deal...

dave sz · 05-20-2009, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Jodokast96

Here's one thing I don't recall anyone bringing up. Is SR going to properly support TC's or MF zooms?

what do you mean? Does it not support them right now?

Jodokast96 · 05-20-2009, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by dave sz

what do you mean? Does it not support them right now?

Not correctly, no. If you use a TC with a 300mm lens, you get SR for 300mm, not the new FL. And with MF zooms (pre-A lenses), you can choose only one setting for all FL's. So yes you do get SR, just not the full benefits you could get.

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05-20-2009, 05:37 PM	#3886
muustuus Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 125	Pages in japan are now showing information too. Lovely diagrams. ƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ˆêŠáƒŒƒtƒJƒƒ‰FPENTAX New program looks promising too.

05-20-2009, 05:40 PM	#3887
ddhytz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 602	Originally posted by falconeye pentax.de had sample images of the K-7. ... My impression: The DNGs opened in ACR and looked no different from those of a K20D. ... This doesn't sound very good - I was hoping better IQ.

05-20-2009, 05:42 PM	#3888
arpaagent Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 803	Originally posted by ddhytz This doesn't sound very good - I was hoping better IQ. The question may be how much better can you expect something to be at ISO200. Tell me what is wrong with the K20D images that you would like corrected. We have yet to see any representative samples with production firmware at high ISO in low light, so there is no reason to get grumpy yet...

05-20-2009, 05:47 PM	#3889
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Originally posted by dave sz so 2x the price of the normal non WR 18-55 just cause of weather seals? Don't know what the 550-200 goes for but it sounds more reasonable... I could be wrong, but wasn't the initial MSRP of the nearly $200? I'd expect the actual price to be somewhat less.

05-20-2009, 05:48 PM	#3890
muustuus Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 125	"Endurance is more than 10 million shots." Says the Pentax Japan site of the shutter construction. And composition assistance seems to be 1mm on every direction and 2 degree rotation with SR off. Lower figures with SR on.

05-20-2009, 05:49 PM	#3891
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by ddhytz This doesn't sound very good - I was hoping better IQ. To be specific: By "looked like from a K20D" I meant: Perfect IQ only limited by the lens.

05-20-2009, 05:52 PM	#3892
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by muustuus "Endurance is more than 10 million shots." Says the Pentax Japan site of the shutter construction. I entered 10 million into my country converter for Japan and it told me "100,000". So, everything is consistent

05-20-2009, 05:57 PM	#3893
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,823	Originally posted by muustuus And composition assistance seems to be 1mm on every direction and 2 degree rotation with SR off. Lower figures with SR on. But SR won't be on when using a tripod. Odd.

05-20-2009, 05:58 PM	#3894
muustuus Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 125	Originally posted by falconeye I entered 10 million into my country converter for Japan and it told me "100,000". So, everything is consistent Yeah after my post I noticed some other numbers are weird too. Looks more realistic now.

05-20-2009, 06:08 PM	#3895
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by muustuus Yeah after my post I noticed some other numbers are weird too. Looks more realistic now. That was a joke The Yen to Dollar conversion isn't expected to convert shutter activations too

05-20-2009, 06:19 PM	#3896
Light_Horseman Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coffs Harbour, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 297	Originally posted by keltia666 No FA (so no FA-Limited) there Let's hope Pentax does the smart thing and release some D FA limiteds!!!!

05-20-2009, 07:29 PM	#3897
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Here's one thing I don't recall anyone bringing up. Is SR going to properly support TC's or MF zooms?

05-20-2009, 08:33 PM	#3898
dave sz Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: carpentersville, IL Posts: 693	Originally posted by Jodokast96 I could be wrong, but wasn't the initial MSRP of the nearly $200? I'd expect the actual price to be somewhat less. Probably. The Pentax 18-55mm AL II is ~$130 on ebay. That will most likely fall to under $800 when the WR kit comes out. Then again maybe not. tHE 50-200mm seems like a good deal...

05-20-2009, 08:33 PM	#3899
dave sz Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: carpentersville, IL Posts: 693	Originally posted by Jodokast96 Here's one thing I don't recall anyone bringing up. Is SR going to properly support TC's or MF zooms? what do you mean? Does it not support them right now?

05-20-2009, 08:56 PM	#3900
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Originally posted by dave sz what do you mean? Does it not support them right now? Not correctly, no. If you use a TC with a 300mm lens, you get SR for 300mm, not the new FL. And with MF zooms (pre-A lenses), you can choose only one setting for all FL's. So yes you do get SR, just not the full benefits you could get.

is this pic of K30D?

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