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04-24-2009, 08:09 AM   #76
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I think everyone forgets that in the film era Pentax considered it's medium format line to be "professional" and the rest enthusiast.

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Indeed thats the common misconception. I'll post this again:

I've got the 1999 pentax dealer catalogue that featured MZ-S launch.

First sentence:

"Introducing the MZ-S Professional...the newflagship of the Pentax SLR line"

whereas in same catalogue PZ-1P first sentence:

"A high performance, multi-featured 35mm autofocus SLR for the advanced amateur and professional photographer."



I read this belief alot in pentax related forums:

"Pentax had no 35mm pro bodies".

HOWEVER My LX launch catalogue says otherwise and 1999 Pentax said their MZ-S was probody too. Heck they grouped LX in with 645 and 6x7, & not with 35mm cameras.




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I think everyone forgets that in the film era Pentax considered it's medium format line to be "professional" and the rest enthusiast.
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Note that the MX was also often 'sold as' Pro body at the time, partly because it had a couple interchangeable accessories with the LX (e.g. focussing screens).
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Note that the MX was also often 'sold as' Pro body at the time, partly because it had a couple interchangeable accessories with the LX (e.g. focussing screens).
Well, at the time of the MX, 'pros' didn't buy cameras based on essential things being left out of lower-grade models or hidden behind menues or other things. If an MX was sufficient, an MX was sufficient. Once upon a time, the 'pro' camera would just be better built and have a nicer finder. You could stick a drive on there, and otherwise things'd stay out of your way. Back then, if you put the same film in and the same glass on the 'basic' camera, you'd absolutely get the same results almost all the time. (till it maybe wore out, anyway)

Always seemed 'pros' scorned change, and the fancy bells and whistles would have to get tried out on the top 'enthusiast' camera before anyone would look at em.

Not really the same as now.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
Well, at the time of the MX, 'pros' didn't buy cameras based on essential things being left out of lower-grade models or hidden behind menues or other things. If an MX was sufficient, an MX was sufficient.
Yeah, the MX was as much Pro as required. The LX wasn't even around when the MX came out.
E.g., MX had winder and roll film adapter. And an exchangeable back.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JETninja Quote
Have to wonder about the marketing team that comes up with the numbering. Many would tend to believe a K7 is below a K10/K20....and were does it fit with-in the K200, K1000/K-M etc, etc etc....LOL!
Nikon follows a more convoluted scheme, but people aren't complaining about it.

D40/50/60 < D70/80/90 < D100/200/300 < D700 < D1/2/3... huh?

Now the D5000 comes along, and suddenly the list looks like this:

D40/50/60 < D5000 < D70/80/90 < D100/200/300 < D700 < D1/2/3

The Pentax and Canon way of doing things are easier to understand. xxxxD < xxxD < xxD < xD (add/remove K's and D's as necessary for Pentax).

Sony's numbering is perfectly logical thus far, too, but I would think they're bound to run out of in-between numbers from 350 to 700 and 700 to 900 over time, unless they're content with something like an A452 and such.
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New metering system?

Not sure if its in this forum but OGL keeps mentioning that the K-7 will *confirmed* (according to some source of his?) have a new exposure system. Does that mean a more advanced multi-segment meter? I feel like the "matrix" metering on the K10D is quite easily fooled especially in the difficult, high contrast tropical lighting conditions I shoot in. I'm a beginner and while I like having the ability to use and learn about exposure locking, bracketing, spot and center-weighted metering etc., it would be nice just to be able to set aperture and let the camera's "brain" do the rest sometimes. As it is, I feel like I too often have to use the AE-L or eV buttons to reshoot. Anyway, such noobesque ramblings probably belong in the Q&A forum but I'm still curious if anyone else has heard this rumour or if Ogl has anymore info on a new metering system.
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The spanish Pentax site (by the way, awful design they should change urgently) just entered a countdown to the new Pentax Serie K....

PENTAX ESPAA

55 days, 9 hours, 53 min.. and counting...

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PENTAX ESPAA


Available on 6/19/09?
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Oops. Sorry. redundant.
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So Pentax Spain is revealing in ~1.5 months secrets no other Pentax site knows about? Fiends!
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As explained by the spanish Pentax forum administrator, the new K-7 should be on spanish stores at the end of June (or first days of July), he should receive a copy for reviewing one month before that (end of May)... that is the info he received from Pentax Spain.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Samsungian Quote
I've got the 1999 pentax dealer catalogue that featured MZ-S launch.

First sentence:

"Introducing the MZ-S Professional...the newflagship of the Pentax SLR line"

whereas in same catalogue PZ-1P first sentence:

"A high performance, multi-featured 35mm autofocus SLR for the advanced amateur and professional photographer."



I read this belief alot in pentax related forums:

"Pentax had no 35mm pro bodies".

HOWEVER My LX launch catalogue says otherwise and 1999 Pentax said their MZ-S was probody too. Heck they grouped LX in with 645 and 6x7, & not with 35mm cameras.
It's very odd how they missed the mz-s off of this poster...

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Yes, they missed it off on its summary, but you can download the complete history and there it is:

PENTAX ESPAA

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I just found it odd as it was supposed to be their flagship film slr but then again it mentions noting of the medium format cameras either..
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