There is yet another DSLR in the works....

Clicker · 12-24-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Nubi

I am starting to think that perhaps I should stop feeding my kids for few months and buy 645D, and explain later.

What's that explanantion going to be?, "i have my priorities"

Clicker · 12-24-2009, 10:39 PM

i'm prepared, I have an extra set of SDM zooms waiting for the K9

WerTicus · 12-25-2009, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by Nubi

K-x's sensor in K-7's body?? Don't think that is going to happen because that is like admitting that K-7's sensor is a dud.

The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege!

falconeye · 12-25-2009, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by WerTicus

The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege!

This statement doesn't become true if repeated often enough.

The doubling of channels from 2 to 4 was necessary for the increased fps spec of the K-7. Do the math. Video has nothing to do with it.

Christopher M.W.T · 12-25-2009, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by WerTicus

The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege!

What is peoples obsession with super-high ISO shooting?

Dammit just shoot in raw then doing NR in PP if you have to shoot at 1600+

In terms of performance going by the 7D & K7 raw results on the 7D review on dpreview there is negligible difference between the two cameras at base ISO.

How often do you actually shooting with mega high iso? and how the hell did people manage to get awesome shots just a few years ago when ISO noise was even higher on dslsr?

Just enjoy the camera!

benjikan · 12-25-2009, 04:26 PM

There are a lot of you who seem to smell a FF in the near future. I agree. I am still betting on a FF and another model that will replace the K20D sometime in the Spring.

The FF will have a 24-25 mega pixel sensor and the APS-C K30? with a 15-17 mega pixel sensor.

We shall see what we shall see...

ilya80 · 12-25-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

...I agree. I am still betting on a FF ...

I so hope your crystal ball is not malfunctioning!

Not that a FF camera would make me a better photographer, but I am indeed eager to spend the buck for it to complement my nice lens collection.

Santa if you are reading this make a note somewhere on your list

Nubi · 12-25-2009, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

There are a lot of you who seem to smell a FF in the near future. I agree. I am still betting on a FF and another model that will replace the K20D sometime in the Spring.

The FF will have a 24-25 mega pixel sensor and the APS-C K30? with a 15-17 mega pixel sensor.

We shall see what we shall see...

Not that you need it, judging from your work, but are you going to 645D? The latest is that Pentax is saying that they want to price 645D so that high end amateurs may even consider it. If the wannbe's are going to get one, are you going to? BUt then, if K20D more suffices, then why go to FF or MF unless it was provided to you??? Are we at a point where it really doesn't matter what we shoot with??

benjikan · 12-26-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Nubi

Not that you need it, judging from your work, but are you going to 645D? The latest is that Pentax is saying that they want to price 645D so that high end amateurs may even consider it. If the wannbe's are going to get one, are you going to? BUt then, if K20D more suffices, then why go to FF or MF unless it was provided to you??? Are we at a point where it really doesn't matter what we shoot with??

At present, I am considering several options. Presently, the gear I am using suffices. I have had a few sponsorship propositions and will consider them. Until then, I will use the tools I presently have.

Nubi · 12-26-2009, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

At present, I am considering several options. Presently, the gear I am using suffices. I have had a few sponsorship propositions and will consider them. Until then, I will use the tools I presently have.

Ben,

I have a perfect solution.

I think that people who are proposing you should get me a 645D set up, and see if I can take better pictures than you do with your K20D. I am not sure what it solves, but I am calling it a solution because solutions usually benefit people and this would certainly benefit me (and will not harm you in any ways). By the way K-7 and K-x replacements already in the works.

**jpzk** · 12-27-2009, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by WerTicus

The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege!

Another bashing post ! If you are not happy with your K7, why don't you switch to another brand?
Or ... maybe you don't own a K7?

JP

Clicker · 12-27-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

Another bashing post ! If you are not happy with your K7, why don't you switch to another brand?
Or ... maybe you don't own a K7?

JP

easy there JP, it's the Holidays

no need to blow a fuse this will always happen and ironically with all the brands and models, that said i will be picking up a K7 shortly because member Flyfocus? with his fishing video casted my decision to invest in one because soon here in Ontario the government is going to tax us up the yin yang

justinr · 12-27-2009, 11:26 AM

It seems that the K20D is not being stocked by the dealers over in the UK at present which may suggest that it's time is limited. Looking around I just get the feeling that nobody is interested in selling you one because something else is coming along shortly. Either that or Pentax has upset them, appearing to compete with the dealers by encouraging users to buy directly from the company's website.

Justin.

James S · 12-27-2009, 02:04 PM

Thats because the K20D is discontinued, mate.

justinr · 12-27-2009, 02:10 PM

That would explain a lot. Can't recall seeing it mentioned anywhere though especially when I enquired of a dealer, when did that happen?

Justin.

12-25-2009, 04:26 PM	#111
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	My Bet There are a lot of you who seem to smell a FF in the near future. I agree. I am still betting on a FF and another model that will replace the K20D sometime in the Spring. The FF will have a 24-25 mega pixel sensor and the APS-C K30? with a 15-17 mega pixel sensor. We shall see what we shall see...

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12-24-2009, 07:22 PM	#106
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Originally posted by Nubi I am starting to think that perhaps I should stop feeding my kids for few months and buy 645D, and explain later. What's that explanantion going to be?, "i have my priorities"

12-24-2009, 10:39 PM	#107
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	i'm prepared, I have an extra set of SDM zooms waiting for the K9

12-25-2009, 05:30 AM	#108
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	Originally posted by Nubi K-x's sensor in K-7's body?? Don't think that is going to happen because that is like admitting that K-7's sensor is a dud. The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege!

12-25-2009, 05:57 AM	#109
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by WerTicus The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege! This statement doesn't become true if repeated often enough. The doubling of channels from 2 to 4 was necessary for the increased fps spec of the K-7. Do the math. Video has nothing to do with it.

12-25-2009, 07:09 AM	#110
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Originally posted by WerTicus The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege! What is peoples obsession with super-high ISO shooting? Dammit just shoot in raw then doing NR in PP if you have to shoot at 1600+ In terms of performance going by the 7D & K7 raw results on the 7D review on dpreview there is negligible difference between the two cameras at base ISO. How often do you actually shooting with mega high iso? and how the hell did people manage to get awesome shots just a few years ago when ISO noise was even higher on dslsr? Just enjoy the camera!

12-25-2009, 05:53 PM	#112
ilya80 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia Photos: Albums Posts: 410	Originally posted by benjikan ...I agree. I am still betting on a FF ... I so hope your crystal ball is not malfunctioning! Not that a FF camera would make me a better photographer, but I am indeed eager to spend the buck for it to complement my nice lens collection. Santa if you are reading this make a note somewhere on your list

12-25-2009, 08:20 PM	#113
Nubi Guest	Originally posted by benjikan There are a lot of you who seem to smell a FF in the near future. I agree. I am still betting on a FF and another model that will replace the K20D sometime in the Spring. The FF will have a 24-25 mega pixel sensor and the APS-C K30? with a 15-17 mega pixel sensor. We shall see what we shall see... Not that you need it, judging from your work, but are you going to 645D? The latest is that Pentax is saying that they want to price 645D so that high end amateurs may even consider it. If the wannbe's are going to get one, are you going to? BUt then, if K20D more suffices, then why go to FF or MF unless it was provided to you??? Are we at a point where it really doesn't matter what we shoot with??

12-26-2009, 02:55 PM	#114
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by Nubi Not that you need it, judging from your work, but are you going to 645D? The latest is that Pentax is saying that they want to price 645D so that high end amateurs may even consider it. If the wannbe's are going to get one, are you going to? BUt then, if K20D more suffices, then why go to FF or MF unless it was provided to you??? Are we at a point where it really doesn't matter what we shoot with?? At present, I am considering several options. Presently, the gear I am using suffices. I have had a few sponsorship propositions and will consider them. Until then, I will use the tools I presently have.

12-26-2009, 04:10 PM	#115
Nubi Guest	Originally posted by benjikan At present, I am considering several options. Presently, the gear I am using suffices. I have had a few sponsorship propositions and will consider them. Until then, I will use the tools I presently have. Ben, I have a perfect solution. I think that people who are proposing you should get me a 645D set up, and see if I can take better pictures than you do with your K20D. I am not sure what it solves, but I am calling it a solution because solutions usually benefit people and this would certainly benefit me (and will not harm you in any ways). By the way K-7 and K-x replacements already in the works.

12-27-2009, 09:49 AM	#116
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by WerTicus The K7's sensor is a dud, it sacrificed ISO noise, and Dynamic range for video! Sacrilege! Another bashing post ! If you are not happy with your K7, why don't you switch to another brand? Or ... maybe you don't own a K7? JP

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12-27-2009, 10:17 AM	#117
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Originally posted by jpzk Another bashing post ! If you are not happy with your K7, why don't you switch to another brand? Or ... maybe you don't own a K7? JP easy there JP, it's the Holidays no need to blow a fuse this will always happen and ironically with all the brands and models, that said i will be picking up a K7 shortly because member Flyfocus? with his fishing video casted my decision to invest in one because soon here in Ontario the government is going to tax us up the yin yang

12-27-2009, 11:26 AM	#118
justinr Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tipperary Photos: Gallery Posts: 394	It seems that the K20D is not being stocked by the dealers over in the UK at present which may suggest that it's time is limited. Looking around I just get the feeling that nobody is interested in selling you one because something else is coming along shortly. Either that or Pentax has upset them, appearing to compete with the dealers by encouraging users to buy directly from the company's website. Justin.

12-27-2009, 02:04 PM	#119
James S Guest	Thats because the K20D is discontinued, mate.

12-27-2009, 02:10 PM	#120
justinr Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tipperary Photos: Gallery Posts: 394	That would explain a lot. Can't recall seeing it mentioned anywhere though especially when I enquired of a dealer, when did that happen? Justin.