Ned B. On NDAs, RiceHigh and other things

mattdm · 04-26-2009, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

I really can't understand why when I have already typed overthere, I still needed to re-type or copy/paste the same thing here (and waste forum storage and bandwidth). Just an Hyperlink will serve the purpose, most effectively! Guy, its the Internet, with Hyperlinking!

Or, you know, assume that people who are interested in seeing it will see it over there just fine.

Blue · 04-26-2009, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I think Rice will buy K-7.

I hope so. That way he can review a digital Pentax body he actually owns and has had in his hands for more than 10 minutes.

benjikan · 04-26-2009, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Sean Nelson

I took a stroll through Ned's post and followed his link to The Top Ten Recommended Cameras on the Online Photographer site. What caught my eye there is that the number 2 spot has been "reserved until this time next month". Is some other company coming out with a new model then, or does this sound suspicuously like the new Pentax?

...and have I just become a carrier in Pentax's viral marketing campaign???

Just thought I would share with you what I posted on Mike's site re this article:

Thanks for the fine article Mike. I totally agree with your conclusions. Any of the above camera's could be used for most applications and produce fine results. I would have no qualms using any of them for a magazine production fashion shoot. My using Pentax is a consequence of other factors that affected my reasons for opting for the brand. I must say however, that Pentax glass in most cases is excellent and have been quite impressed with the outcome. I believe the popularity of certain brands over others has more to do with marketing force and budgets allocated for supporting those brands. In today's harsh economic environment, manufacturers have to come up with very innovative marketing schemes that are as inventive as the technologies being proposed. I won't get in to a lengthly diatribe here, but many camera manufacturers seem to more often than not miss their mark. Pentax is a prime example of a manufacturer that hasn't exploited their pedigree DNA and that is unfortunate. None the less, again, all of the above tools do their job well. Unfortunately the only limitations to their excellence is often those pressing the shutter.

Ben

**GaryM** · 04-26-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by RaduA

The DP2 was officially launched on the 24th this month so there is absolutely no need for a one month delay. It's 99% the *other* one

.

Radu

The trouble is, after his #3 'choice', I can't see him picking an APS-C DSLR as his #2 pick. The DP2 is a type of camera he's been wanting badly, and he's lukewarm about the LX3 and G10. Even though the DP2 has just been released, maybe he needs more time for a full appraisal.

Torphoto · 04-26-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by GaryM

The trouble is, after his #3 'choice', I can't see him picking an APS-C DSLR as his #2 pick. The DP2 is a type of camera he's been wanting badly, and he's lukewarm about the LX3 and G10. Even though the DP2 has just been released, maybe he needs more time for a full appraisal.

He probably has a K-7 in his hands and the improvements at least have it as a runner up for #2

dopeytree · 04-26-2009, 02:26 PM

I don't think Ned likes me he never replies to any of my comments and questions on his blog..

vinzer · 04-26-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by uccemebug

Given the constant cries from the writer(s) at T.O.P. on the subject of a good walkaround digital point-and-shoot, I would be very surprised if #2 turned out to be anything other than the Sigma DP2.

See, for example: The Online Photographer: Sigma DP2?It's Official

Why bother putting the DP2 in the list? They already made the recommendation for the LX3 (at #4) and a Canon Ixus (#10, I believe) in there. While the K7 landing at number 2 also seems far-fetched, it's a better bet than the DP2.

My guess is it may be the E-620 that goes in there. Or should have been the E-620 but Mike decided to see what Pentax has to offer come May.

**rparmar** · 04-26-2009, 05:19 PM

Does it matter what they put at #2? They couldn't even decide on the K20D for #3 place, even though it was the cheapest by far of those in competition, and the only one with seals, in-camera SR and high IQ.

whatever7 · 04-26-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by GaryM

The trouble is, after his #3 'choice', I can't see him picking an APS-C DSLR as his #2 pick. The DP2 is a type of camera he's been wanting badly, and he's lukewarm about the LX3 and G10. Even though the DP2 has just been released, maybe he needs more time for a full appraisal.

What if he does? Even if he pick the GR Digital and its crappy noisy sensor as the 2nd best camera of all time it wouldn't stop the earth from spinning.

mickey · 04-26-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

Does it matter what they put at #2? They couldn't even decide on the K20D for #3 place, even though it was the cheapest by far of those in competition, and the only one with seals, in-camera SR and high IQ.

Agreed.
K20 deserved being at number 3 for being a good camera, and excellent value for money.
Outstanding value for money, actually.
Yes, it's in good company, but for the price, it's unbeatable.

RiceHigh · 04-26-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by mattdm

Or, you know, assume that people who are interested in seeing it will see it over there just fine.

Pointing to Ned's Blog will do NO HARM. Will it?

RiceHigh · 04-26-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Torphoto

He probably has a K-7 in his hands and the improvements at least have it as a runner up for #2

Mike Johnston is a Pentax fan, he always likes Pentax! :-)

Damn Brit · 04-26-2009, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

I really can't understand why when I have already typed overthere, I still needed to re-type or copy/paste the same thing here (and waste forum storage and bandwidth). Just an Hyperlink will serve the purpose, most effectively! Guy, its the Internet, with Hyperlinking!

RH, the forum rules allow for links in your sig but not in the body of your post. Everyone adheres to that rule except for you and if they don't, the link is removed. By all means mention it in the post but we really would appreciate it if you didn't include the links.
Everyone is happy then.

mattdm · 04-26-2009, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Pointing to Ned's Blog will do NO HARM. Will it?

Hey, I'm only pointing out that it is part of a pattern which taken all together can be seen as obnoxious. Since the whole thread started with a reference to Ned's blog, presumably another link doesn't add anything. I'm not telling you to do anything, just suggesting how this can add to the negative perception. I don't even really care that much. What you want to do is totally your call.

**Aristophanes** · 04-26-2009, 07:08 PM

My $ is on the new Fuji 200 EXR.

Originally posted by Sean Nelson

I took a stroll through Ned's post and followed his link to The Top Ten Recommended Cameras on the Online Photographer site. What caught my eye there is that the number 2 spot has been "reserved until this time next month". Is some other company coming out with a new model then, or does this sound suspicuously like the new Pentax?

...and have I just become a carrier in Pentax's viral marketing campaign???

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04-26-2009, 08:36 AM	#31
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by RiceHigh I really can't understand why when I have already typed overthere, I still needed to re-type or copy/paste the same thing here (and waste forum storage and bandwidth). Just an Hyperlink will serve the purpose, most effectively! Guy, its the Internet, with Hyperlinking! Or, you know, assume that people who are interested in seeing it will see it over there just fine.

04-26-2009, 08:49 AM	#32
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by ogl I think Rice will buy K-7. I hope so. That way he can review a digital Pentax body he actually owns and has had in his hands for more than 10 minutes.

04-26-2009, 09:06 AM	#33
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by Sean Nelson I took a stroll through Ned's post and followed his link to The Top Ten Recommended Cameras on the Online Photographer site. What caught my eye there is that the number 2 spot has been "reserved until this time next month". Is some other company coming out with a new model then, or does this sound suspicuously like the new Pentax? ...and have I just become a carrier in Pentax's viral marketing campaign??? Just thought I would share with you what I posted on Mike's site re this article: Thanks for the fine article Mike. I totally agree with your conclusions. Any of the above camera's could be used for most applications and produce fine results. I would have no qualms using any of them for a magazine production fashion shoot. My using Pentax is a consequence of other factors that affected my reasons for opting for the brand. I must say however, that Pentax glass in most cases is excellent and have been quite impressed with the outcome. I believe the popularity of certain brands over others has more to do with marketing force and budgets allocated for supporting those brands. In today's harsh economic environment, manufacturers have to come up with very innovative marketing schemes that are as inventive as the technologies being proposed. I won't get in to a lengthly diatribe here, but many camera manufacturers seem to more often than not miss their mark. Pentax is a prime example of a manufacturer that hasn't exploited their pedigree DNA and that is unfortunate. None the less, again, all of the above tools do their job well. Unfortunately the only limitations to their excellence is often those pressing the shutter. Ben

04-26-2009, 10:39 AM	#34
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	Originally posted by RaduA The DP2 was officially launched on the 24th this month so there is absolutely no need for a one month delay. It's 99% the other one . Radu The trouble is, after his #3 'choice', I can't see him picking an APS-C DSLR as his #2 pick. The DP2 is a type of camera he's been wanting badly, and he's lukewarm about the LX3 and G10. Even though the DP2 has just been released, maybe he needs more time for a full appraisal.

04-26-2009, 10:43 AM	#35
Torphoto Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trinidad W.I. Photos: Gallery Posts: 612	Originally posted by GaryM The trouble is, after his #3 'choice', I can't see him picking an APS-C DSLR as his #2 pick. The DP2 is a type of camera he's been wanting badly, and he's lukewarm about the LX3 and G10. Even though the DP2 has just been released, maybe he needs more time for a full appraisal. He probably has a K-7 in his hands and the improvements at least have it as a runner up for #2

04-26-2009, 02:26 PM	#36
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	I don't think Ned likes me he never replies to any of my comments and questions on his blog..

04-26-2009, 05:06 PM	#37
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by uccemebug Given the constant cries from the writer(s) at T.O.P. on the subject of a good walkaround digital point-and-shoot, I would be very surprised if #2 turned out to be anything other than the Sigma DP2. See, for example: The Online Photographer: Sigma DP2?It's Official Why bother putting the DP2 in the list? They already made the recommendation for the LX3 (at #4) and a Canon Ixus (#10, I believe) in there. While the K7 landing at number 2 also seems far-fetched, it's a better bet than the DP2. My guess is it may be the E-620 that goes in there. Or should have been the E-620 but Mike decided to see what Pentax has to offer come May.

04-26-2009, 05:19 PM	#38
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,817	Does it matter what they put at #2? They couldn't even decide on the K20D for #3 place, even though it was the cheapest by far of those in competition, and the only one with seals, in-camera SR and high IQ.

04-26-2009, 05:22 PM	#39
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	Originally posted by GaryM The trouble is, after his #3 'choice', I can't see him picking an APS-C DSLR as his #2 pick. The DP2 is a type of camera he's been wanting badly, and he's lukewarm about the LX3 and G10. Even though the DP2 has just been released, maybe he needs more time for a full appraisal. What if he does? Even if he pick the GR Digital and its crappy noisy sensor as the 2nd best camera of all time it wouldn't stop the earth from spinning.

04-26-2009, 05:54 PM	#40
mickey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,146	Originally posted by rparmar Does it matter what they put at #2? They couldn't even decide on the K20D for #3 place, even though it was the cheapest by far of those in competition, and the only one with seals, in-camera SR and high IQ. Agreed. K20 deserved being at number 3 for being a good camera, and excellent value for money. Outstanding value for money, actually. Yes, it's in good company, but for the price, it's unbeatable.

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04-26-2009, 06:22 PM	#41
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Originally posted by mattdm Or, you know, assume that people who are interested in seeing it will see it over there just fine. Pointing to Ned's Blog will do NO HARM. Will it?

04-26-2009, 06:23 PM	#42
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Originally posted by Torphoto He probably has a K-7 in his hands and the improvements at least have it as a runner up for #2 Mike Johnston is a Pentax fan, he always likes Pentax! :-)

04-26-2009, 06:36 PM	#43
Damn Brit Guest	Originally posted by RiceHigh I really can't understand why when I have already typed overthere, I still needed to re-type or copy/paste the same thing here (and waste forum storage and bandwidth). Just an Hyperlink will serve the purpose, most effectively! Guy, its the Internet, with Hyperlinking! RH, the forum rules allow for links in your sig but not in the body of your post. Everyone adheres to that rule except for you and if they don't, the link is removed. By all means mention it in the post but we really would appreciate it if you didn't include the links. Everyone is happy then.

04-26-2009, 06:44 PM	#44
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by RiceHigh Pointing to Ned's Blog will do NO HARM. Will it? Hey, I'm only pointing out that it is part of a pattern which taken all together can be seen as obnoxious. Since the whole thread started with a reference to Ned's blog, presumably another link doesn't add anything. I'm not telling you to do anything, just suggesting how this can add to the negative perception. I don't even really care that much. What you want to do is totally your call.

04-26-2009, 07:08 PM	#45
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	My $ is on the new Fuji 200 EXR. Originally posted by Sean Nelson I took a stroll through Ned's post and followed his link to The Top Ten Recommended Cameras on the Online Photographer site. What caught my eye there is that the number 2 spot has been "reserved until this time next month". Is some other company coming out with a new model then, or does this sound suspicuously like the new Pentax? ...and have I just become a carrier in Pentax's viral marketing campaign???