Are These New Photos of K-7 Real ?

Fl_Gulfer · 05-13-2009, 08:10 PM

Seems like the LV button is useless unless the LCD screen tilts and turns. I wish they would have done that instead of enlarging the LCD. It's hard reaching over people heads to take shots you can't see.

cousinsane · 05-13-2009, 08:28 PM

Less useful, sure. But I certainly wouldn't call it useless.

Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer

Seems like the LV button is useless unless the LCD screen tilts and turns. I wish they would have done that instead of enlarging the LCD. It's hard reaching over people heads to take shots you can't see.

CherryO · 05-13-2009, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by ShutterWaster

Do you have any idea of how to select AF point? seems direct press direction keys will not do this again. because when I press them I should roll wheels to change the corresponding settings.

and the button in center of mode dial is interesting, what does it used for?

The arrow keys have two functions... either as direct controls to the various functions (drive mode, WB etc.) OR to select the AF points. Hitting the ok button toggles between these two functions.

ogl · 05-13-2009, 08:37 PM

something interesting?

Attached Images

joerg · 05-13-2009, 08:39 PM

I have to agree with some of the earlier comments about it looking cheap. It also saddens me everytime I see that kit lens on the camera, the lens looks just like the canon 18-55 kit which as a Canon owner I will say is a pile of junk. I honestly think the reason it looks cheap though is because of the lighting used, the camera looks 100% plastic in the current lighting.

As far as the button layout is concerned, I would love to see a DLSR go touch screen for buttons like delete, and info. Nothing fancy, and it could use a screen lock like most touch screen phones have to prevent accidentally deleting anything. I guess it just seems odd that info, play, delete, and menu take up more room than anything. Personally I would love to see a dedicated exposure dial on the front right of the camera for your left index finger to use. This would eliminate the need for an exposure button and would make life a bit easier.

Oh and on the subject of LV, if the camera has well implemented LV then you will grow to love it. I use LV a lot on my 5DmkII, it is amazing when you are shooting low to the ground or you are in a tough spot, or just on a tripod in general, and manually focusing in LV is very easy with a bit of zoom, this makes my macro work spot on.

I guess my problem is sitll in the fact that they seem to have sacrificed to much in an order to condense the size. I hope I am wrong, and as others have said we need to have it in our hands before we can judge. Its just to bad there are like 10 places in the US where that is even possible.

jct us101 · 05-13-2009, 08:41 PM

Since when did everyone whine about Pentax's cameras like this?

I swear I feel like I just heard the Rebel T1i had been released again, you all sound like the whiners on a Canon forum. I came here because I couldn't stand that, because I knew that Pentax users were better than that. I personally think the new camera is awesome.

Try getting a cheap enough weather sealed camera from another brand, with a WEATHER SEALED kit lens.

ogl · 05-13-2009, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

I personally think the new camera is awesome.

So do I. When you will know specs...

It's small machine-gun.

jmbradd · 05-13-2009, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by ogl

something interesting?

yeah what is that, the "activate the crystals" button?

**Hannican** · 05-13-2009, 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=JThe +,-/EV button was in the perfect spot. I have a feeling they moved it up top. Great. I'll have to reconfigure my grip and probably take my eye away from the viewfinder to adjust that now--that's a royal mistake and a stupid thing for them to rip off IMO.[/QUOTE]

^ Deal breaker for me, unless it's very, very easily accessible.

I'd say I use the EV compensation button on at least 2 of every 4 shots. It's impossible not to with the terrible underexposure issues on my K10D...

mattdm · 05-13-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Hannican

I'd say I use the EV compensation button on at least 2 of every 4 shots. It's impossible not to with the terrible underexposure issues on my K10D...

If you're using it that much, have you considered making one of the dials be EV comp instead of using the button?

Steelski · 05-13-2009, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by nixcamic

I need a SR switch, when shooting stuff in low light I switch between SR and no SR to do pans all the time.

Edit: Darnit, I've fallen into the trap and am complaining about something thats not even released yet and that I wont have enough cash to buy for another year anyhow.

there may be a sensor for SR pans.

*MightyMike* · 05-13-2009, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by ogl

something interesting?

DOF preview? hexagon aperture and a picture window?

sezme · 05-13-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by MightyMike

DOF preview? hexagon aperture and a picture window?

Everyone was wrong about the K-7 having a square sensor. It's a hexagonal sensor! This button will put you into 'hex mode.'

jake123 · 05-13-2009, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Hannican

^ Deal breaker for me, unless it's very, very easily accessible.

I'd say I use the EV compensation button on at least 2 of every 4 shots. It's impossible not to with the terrible underexposure issues on my K10D...

I think instead of your thumb on ev + index finger on front dial, you will get index finger on ev and thumb on back dial... The latter is perfectly natural for me on the k100d...

sezme · 05-13-2009, 10:10 PM

Button placement on the K-7 is reminiscent of the D300/D700 placement in many respects, although I do prefer the ergonomics of the Pentax by a large margin (I haven't held it yet, but assuming it's as comfortable in my hands as I imagine, I think the buttons are placed just right).

The D700 has some truly horrible ergonomics, like the rear dial which is to the far right of the camera, causing you to twist your hand in a most unnatural manner when adjusting exposure compensation. This is one area that Pentax has gotten right many times.

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05-13-2009, 08:10 PM	#76
Fl_Gulfer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Gulfer Photos: Albums Posts: 3,054	Seems like the LV button is useless unless the LCD screen tilts and turns. I wish they would have done that instead of enlarging the LCD. It's hard reaching over people heads to take shots you can't see.

05-13-2009, 08:28 PM	#77
cousinsane Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: madison Posts: 239	Less useful, sure. But I certainly wouldn't call it useless. Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer Seems like the LV button is useless unless the LCD screen tilts and turns. I wish they would have done that instead of enlarging the LCD. It's hard reaching over people heads to take shots you can't see.

05-13-2009, 08:28 PM	#78
CherryO Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 38	Originally posted by ShutterWaster Do you have any idea of how to select AF point? seems direct press direction keys will not do this again. because when I press them I should roll wheels to change the corresponding settings. and the button in center of mode dial is interesting, what does it used for? The arrow keys have two functions... either as direct controls to the various functions (drive mode, WB etc.) OR to select the AF points. Hitting the ok button toggles between these two functions.

05-13-2009, 08:37 PM	#79
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	something interesting? Attached Images

05-13-2009, 08:39 PM	#80
joerg Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 50	I have to agree with some of the earlier comments about it looking cheap. It also saddens me everytime I see that kit lens on the camera, the lens looks just like the canon 18-55 kit which as a Canon owner I will say is a pile of junk. I honestly think the reason it looks cheap though is because of the lighting used, the camera looks 100% plastic in the current lighting. As far as the button layout is concerned, I would love to see a DLSR go touch screen for buttons like delete, and info. Nothing fancy, and it could use a screen lock like most touch screen phones have to prevent accidentally deleting anything. I guess it just seems odd that info, play, delete, and menu take up more room than anything. Personally I would love to see a dedicated exposure dial on the front right of the camera for your left index finger to use. This would eliminate the need for an exposure button and would make life a bit easier. Oh and on the subject of LV, if the camera has well implemented LV then you will grow to love it. I use LV a lot on my 5DmkII, it is amazing when you are shooting low to the ground or you are in a tough spot, or just on a tripod in general, and manually focusing in LV is very easy with a bit of zoom, this makes my macro work spot on. I guess my problem is sitll in the fact that they seem to have sacrificed to much in an order to condense the size. I hope I am wrong, and as others have said we need to have it in our hands before we can judge. Its just to bad there are like 10 places in the US where that is even possible.

05-13-2009, 08:41 PM	#81
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Since when did everyone whine about Pentax's cameras like this? I swear I feel like I just heard the Rebel T1i had been released again, you all sound like the whiners on a Canon forum. I came here because I couldn't stand that, because I knew that Pentax users were better than that. I personally think the new camera is awesome. Try getting a cheap enough weather sealed camera from another brand, with a WEATHER SEALED kit lens.

05-13-2009, 08:44 PM	#82
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by jct us101 I personally think the new camera is awesome. So do I. When you will know specs... It's small machine-gun.

05-13-2009, 08:53 PM	#83
jmbradd Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland, OR Photos: Albums Posts: 325	Originally posted by ogl something interesting? yeah what is that, the "activate the crystals" button?

05-13-2009, 09:00 PM	#84
Hannican Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 485	[QUOTE=JThe +,-/EV button was in the perfect spot. I have a feeling they moved it up top. Great. I'll have to reconfigure my grip and probably take my eye away from the viewfinder to adjust that now--that's a royal mistake and a stupid thing for them to rip off IMO.[/QUOTE] ^ Deal breaker for me, unless it's very, very easily accessible. I'd say I use the EV compensation button on at least 2 of every 4 shots. It's impossible not to with the terrible underexposure issues on my K10D...

05-13-2009, 09:09 PM	#85
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by Hannican I'd say I use the EV compensation button on at least 2 of every 4 shots. It's impossible not to with the terrible underexposure issues on my K10D... If you're using it that much, have you considered making one of the dials be EV comp instead of using the button?

05-13-2009, 09:18 PM	#86
Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470	Originally posted by nixcamic I need a SR switch, when shooting stuff in low light I switch between SR and no SR to do pans all the time. Edit: Darnit, I've fallen into the trap and am complaining about something thats not even released yet and that I wont have enough cash to buy for another year anyhow. there may be a sensor for SR pans.

05-13-2009, 09:19 PM	#87
MightyMike Marketplace Reseller Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 9,324	Originally posted by ogl something interesting? DOF preview? hexagon aperture and a picture window?

05-13-2009, 09:26 PM	#88
sezme Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 59	Originally posted by MightyMike DOF preview? hexagon aperture and a picture window? Everyone was wrong about the K-7 having a square sensor. It's a hexagonal sensor! This button will put you into 'hex mode.'

05-13-2009, 10:01 PM	#89
jake123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 130	Originally posted by Hannican ^ Deal breaker for me, unless it's very, very easily accessible. I'd say I use the EV compensation button on at least 2 of every 4 shots. It's impossible not to with the terrible underexposure issues on my K10D... I think instead of your thumb on ev + index finger on front dial, you will get index finger on ev and thumb on back dial... The latter is perfectly natural for me on the k100d...

05-13-2009, 10:10 PM	#90
sezme Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 59	Button placement on the K-7 is reminiscent of the D300/D700 placement in many respects, although I do prefer the ergonomics of the Pentax by a large margin (I haven't held it yet, but assuming it's as comfortable in my hands as I imagine, I think the buttons are placed just right). The D700 has some truly horrible ergonomics, like the rear dial which is to the far right of the camera, causing you to twist your hand in a most unnatural manner when adjusting exposure compensation. This is one area that Pentax has gotten right many times.