K-7 hype getting attention outside Pentax forum?

AndrewShirley · 05-14-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by NaClH2O

Interesting. I wouldn't have thought that Pentax would be getting so much buzz. I've also heard (here?) that it was mentioned on engaget (sp?)

NaCl(it would be nice not to hear "what's a Pentax?" so much)H2O

Yes, that was me who tipped them off with pictures posted on this forum.

- Andrew

**monochrome** · 05-14-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

It will be interresting to see how it is received when all the people that have got a chance to test it is allowed to write about it, but at least it appears to me that this rumor-marketing might be working, and that probably with very small marketting costs so far. Does anyone know of a case where something else been marketed this way before?

The (horrible) movie Snakes on a Plane, the epitome of successful viral internet teaser marketing.

$150,000,000 gross on a $3,000,000 budget - and almost no marketing expense.

You can only get away with it once, though.

Photomy · 05-15-2009, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by nosnoop

Canon T1i/500D is NOT a direct competitor to K-7. Its use of pentamirror, smaller viewfinder, slower fps, slower shutter speed, slower x-sync, lack of top LCD, lack of weather sealing etc justifies its lower price. And any T1i/500D potential buyers would be horrified to find out that there are no scene modes in K-7...

Well the Canon T1i has 3 in. screen (better than K20d), 1/200 xsync (better than k20d), 3.4 ft. per sec (better than k20d), .95 viewfinder (same as k20d), 1/4000 (same as k20d). Missing weather seals and pentaprism of K20d.

Lets wait and see how it compares. Obviously a step down from the specs thrown around for K-7 but how far? Sounds like K20d with real live view, video, and access to Canon glass. Just being devils advocate.

I hope K-7 is a home run and Pentax continues to improve product line. Can't wait to see.

**RuiC** · 05-18-2009, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Perhaps they are getting some of the wrong kind of attention. It looks like Sony is preparing to introduce 3 new DSLR cameras a couple of days before Pentax introduces the K7.
Sony Alpha 230, 330 and 380: dSLR leakski | Crave - CNET
The K7 introduction might just as easily end up being completely missed in the crowd.

Sony? what is Sony? I heard that Sony is Past.

Torphoto · 05-18-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by RuiC

Sony? what is Sony? I heard that Sony is Past.

Don't bet on that. lets just use where I live as an example of camera popularity since we mostly just follow the trends in the USA.

This is Canikon land you can walk into Pricesmart ( Costco ) and pick up a D60 or rebel, the few stores that stock Dslrs have every Canikon everything and now SONY!!!!

No Oly's or Pentaxs anywhere save for point and shoots, 99% here don't even know either has Dslrs.

Now Personally I know one other Pentax user with a K100D who we sometimes swap lesnes ( a non forum member who does autocross racing shots I am quite impressed with what he gets vs guys with 1ds and d2h ).

Now at the last fashion show I went to there were at least 3-4 sony shooters ( one A900 the rest lower end A200's etc ) at least 1 fuji S (something ) pro, dozens of canon 40D's and rebels, 2 1ds mkII's, a D3, a pair of D300's and countless D200's and D80's then me with the K20D. Strange thing is I was the only one with F2.8 glass save for the lone 70-200 F2.8L on the 1ds.

Sony is getting popular through marketing and brand identity, their Dslrs are showing up in places like here and that says alot.

**RuiC** · 05-18-2009, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Torphoto

Don't bet on that. lets just use where I live as an example of camera popularity since we mostly just follow the trends in the USA.

This is Canikon land you can walk into Pricesmart ( Costco ) and pick up a D60 or rebel, the few stores that stock Dslrs have every Canikon everything and now SONY!!!!

No Oly's or Pentaxs anywhere save for point and shoots, 99% here don't even know either has Dslrs.

Now Personally I know one other Pentax user with a K100D who we sometimes swap lesnes ( a non forum member who does autocross racing shots I am quite impressed with what he gets vs guys with 1ds and d2h ).

Now at the last fashion show I went to there were at least 3-4 sony shooters ( one A900 the rest lower end A200's etc ) at least 1 fuji S (something ) pro, dozens of canon 40D's and rebels, 2 1ds mkII's, a D3, a pair of D300's and countless D200's and D80's then me with the K20D. Strange thing is I was the only one with F2.8 glass save for the lone 70-200 F2.8L on the 1ds.

Sony is getting popular through marketing and brand identity, their Dslrs are showing up in places like here and that says alot.

I don't know... Just keep update with financial reports from Japan electronics (and camera) makers.

nosnoop · 05-18-2009, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Torphoto

Sony is getting popular through marketing and brand identity, their Dslrs are showing up in places like here and that says alot.

Yes, and their 2xx/3xx series cameras were their most successful to date; it was a home run for them. Consumers totally bought their pseudo-Live View big time. That's why they are updating them (only the model number as far as I can see) to keep them fresh in consumers' mind.

mattdm · 05-19-2009, 08:10 PM

This doesn't say anything we don't know, but it's surprisingly clueful — much more so than the Engadget blurb — and it's interesting to see an "outside" perspective of all this hoopla.

End User: The K7, Pentax's compact, professional, worst-kept secret

lithos · 05-19-2009, 09:33 PM

RiceHigh seems to be viewed as some sort of seer in regards to all things Pentax.

I 'spose that's the power of the internet for ya - you don't need knowledge, or anything. Just moxie.

More trouble than it's worth.

Jonson PL · 05-21-2009, 09:10 AM

Regarding the Canon campaign, it started from official side. This thing started small, but exploded, with extreme attention.

Originally posted by nosnoop

Canon T1i/500D is NOT a direct competitor to K-7. Its use of pentamirror, smaller viewfinder, slower fps, slower shutter speed, slower x-sync, lack of top LCD, lack of weather sealing etc justifies its lower price. And any T1i/500D potential buyers would be horrified to find out that there are no scene modes in K-7...

Good one

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

My assumption is it'll be placed between the 50d and D300 class for specs: kind of a sidestep from the K20d level with video and some performance improvements.

Sounds about right

Originally posted by karl79

Being a videographer I can tell that due to it's expected video mode the K-7 gets a lot of attention outside still photography communities as well. If they did a good job on video mode, Pentax will be recognized by many people probably for the first time

I don’t know much about this, but what does the K7 do differently, then other DSLRs on the market regarding video ?

Originally posted by nosnoop

Yes, and their 2xx/3xx series cameras were their most successful to date; it was a home run for them. Consumers totally bought their pseudo-Live View big time. That's why they are updating them (only the model number as far as I can see) to keep them fresh in consumers' mind.

interesting

Blue · 05-21-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by lithos

RiceHigh seems to be viewed as some sort of seer in regards to all things Pentax.

I 'spose that's the power of the internet for ya - you don't need knowledge, or anything. Just moxie.

More trouble than it's worth.

The K-7 is getting a lot of chatter on photo.net as well including a lot of mis-information from rh.

Pentax forum from Photo.net

Maybe rh will actually buy a K7 before he reviews it unlike the past 6 or 7 digital bodies.

**Digitalis** · 05-23-2009, 07:10 PM

"mis-information for RH"

empty drums make the most noise.
let the numbers do the talking.

benjikan · 05-24-2009, 02:36 AM

Today...But this is perfectly normal as in all new launches for any DSLR.

**Digitalis** · 05-24-2009, 03:03 AM

it's great pentax are getting more recognition though the release of the K7. I'll point out that the reception of cannons newer cameras was more lukewarm.

Maxington · 05-24-2009, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by Blue

The K-7 is getting a lot of chatter on photo.net as well including a lot of mis-information from rh.

Pentax forum from Photo.net

Maybe rh will actually buy a K7 before he reviews it unlike the past 6 or 7 digital bodies.

Wow, is it me or do people on there just squint at the numbers on spec sheets and ignore major things like...price and weather sealing?

Not to mention how Canon and Nikon tend to cripple their lower models to protect their higher models.

05-19-2009, 08:10 PM	#38
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	amazon blog post on k-7 prerelease This doesn't say anything we don't know, but it's surprisingly clueful — much more so than the Engadget blurb — and it's interesting to see an "outside" perspective of all this hoopla. End User: The K7, Pentax's compact, professional, worst-kept secret

05-23-2009, 07:10 PM	#42
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	"mis-information for RH" empty drums make the most noise. let the numbers do the talking. Last edited by Digitalis; 08-31-2010 at 05:22 PM.

05-24-2009, 02:36 AM	#43
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Today...But this is perfectly normal as in all new launches for any DSLR. Attached Images

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05-14-2009, 04:08 PM	#31
AndrewShirley Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 421	Originally posted by NaClH2O Interesting. I wouldn't have thought that Pentax would be getting so much buzz. I've also heard (here?) that it was mentioned on engaget (sp?) NaCl(it would be nice not to hear "what's a Pentax?" so much)H2O Yes, that was me who tipped them off with pictures posted on this forum. - Andrew

05-14-2009, 04:54 PM	#32
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden It will be interresting to see how it is received when all the people that have got a chance to test it is allowed to write about it, but at least it appears to me that this rumor-marketing might be working, and that probably with very small marketting costs so far. Does anyone know of a case where something else been marketed this way before? The (horrible) movie Snakes on a Plane, the epitome of successful viral internet teaser marketing. $150,000,000 gross on a $3,000,000 budget - and almost no marketing expense. You can only get away with it once, though.

05-15-2009, 12:40 PM	#33
Photomy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 174	Originally posted by nosnoop Canon T1i/500D is NOT a direct competitor to K-7. Its use of pentamirror, smaller viewfinder, slower fps, slower shutter speed, slower x-sync, lack of top LCD, lack of weather sealing etc justifies its lower price. And any T1i/500D potential buyers would be horrified to find out that there are no scene modes in K-7... Well the Canon T1i has 3 in. screen (better than K20d), 1/200 xsync (better than k20d), 3.4 ft. per sec (better than k20d), .95 viewfinder (same as k20d), 1/4000 (same as k20d). Missing weather seals and pentaprism of K20d. Lets wait and see how it compares. Obviously a step down from the specs thrown around for K-7 but how far? Sounds like K20d with real live view, video, and access to Canon glass. Just being devils advocate. I hope K-7 is a home run and Pentax continues to improve product line. Can't wait to see.

05-18-2009, 02:36 PM	#34
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by Wheatfield Perhaps they are getting some of the wrong kind of attention. It looks like Sony is preparing to introduce 3 new DSLR cameras a couple of days before Pentax introduces the K7. Sony Alpha 230, 330 and 380: dSLR leakski \| Crave - CNET The K7 introduction might just as easily end up being completely missed in the crowd. Sony? what is Sony? I heard that Sony is Past.

05-18-2009, 02:48 PM	#35
Torphoto Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trinidad W.I. Photos: Gallery Posts: 612	Originally posted by RuiC Sony? what is Sony? I heard that Sony is Past. Don't bet on that. lets just use where I live as an example of camera popularity since we mostly just follow the trends in the USA. This is Canikon land you can walk into Pricesmart ( Costco ) and pick up a D60 or rebel, the few stores that stock Dslrs have every Canikon everything and now SONY!!!! No Oly's or Pentaxs anywhere save for point and shoots, 99% here don't even know either has Dslrs. Now Personally I know one other Pentax user with a K100D who we sometimes swap lesnes ( a non forum member who does autocross racing shots I am quite impressed with what he gets vs guys with 1ds and d2h ). Now at the last fashion show I went to there were at least 3-4 sony shooters ( one A900 the rest lower end A200's etc ) at least 1 fuji S (something ) pro, dozens of canon 40D's and rebels, 2 1ds mkII's, a D3, a pair of D300's and countless D200's and D80's then me with the K20D. Strange thing is I was the only one with F2.8 glass save for the lone 70-200 F2.8L on the 1ds. Sony is getting popular through marketing and brand identity, their Dslrs are showing up in places like here and that says alot.

05-18-2009, 03:14 PM	#36
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by Torphoto Don't bet on that. lets just use where I live as an example of camera popularity since we mostly just follow the trends in the USA. This is Canikon land you can walk into Pricesmart ( Costco ) and pick up a D60 or rebel, the few stores that stock Dslrs have every Canikon everything and now SONY!!!! No Oly's or Pentaxs anywhere save for point and shoots, 99% here don't even know either has Dslrs. Now Personally I know one other Pentax user with a K100D who we sometimes swap lesnes ( a non forum member who does autocross racing shots I am quite impressed with what he gets vs guys with 1ds and d2h ). Now at the last fashion show I went to there were at least 3-4 sony shooters ( one A900 the rest lower end A200's etc ) at least 1 fuji S (something ) pro, dozens of canon 40D's and rebels, 2 1ds mkII's, a D3, a pair of D300's and countless D200's and D80's then me with the K20D. Strange thing is I was the only one with F2.8 glass save for the lone 70-200 F2.8L on the 1ds. Sony is getting popular through marketing and brand identity, their Dslrs are showing up in places like here and that says alot. I don't know... Just keep update with financial reports from Japan electronics (and camera) makers.

05-18-2009, 05:55 PM	#37
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by Torphoto Sony is getting popular through marketing and brand identity, their Dslrs are showing up in places like here and that says alot. Yes, and their 2xx/3xx series cameras were their most successful to date; it was a home run for them. Consumers totally bought their pseudo-Live View big time. That's why they are updating them (only the model number as far as I can see) to keep them fresh in consumers' mind.

05-19-2009, 09:33 PM	#39
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	RiceHigh seems to be viewed as some sort of seer in regards to all things Pentax. I 'spose that's the power of the internet for ya - you don't need knowledge, or anything. Just moxie. More trouble than it's worth.

05-21-2009, 09:10 AM	#40
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Regarding the Canon campaign, it started from official side. This thing started small, but exploded, with extreme attention. Originally posted by nosnoop Canon T1i/500D is NOT a direct competitor to K-7. Its use of pentamirror, smaller viewfinder, slower fps, slower shutter speed, slower x-sync, lack of top LCD, lack of weather sealing etc justifies its lower price. And any T1i/500D potential buyers would be horrified to find out that there are no scene modes in K-7... Good one Originally posted by Ratmagiclady My assumption is it'll be placed between the 50d and D300 class for specs: kind of a sidestep from the K20d level with video and some performance improvements. Sounds about right Originally posted by karl79 Being a videographer I can tell that due to it's expected video mode the K-7 gets a lot of attention outside still photography communities as well. If they did a good job on video mode, Pentax will be recognized by many people probably for the first time I don’t know much about this, but what does the K7 do differently, then other DSLRs on the market regarding video ? Originally posted by nosnoop Yes, and their 2xx/3xx series cameras were their most successful to date; it was a home run for them. Consumers totally bought their pseudo-Live View big time. That's why they are updating them (only the model number as far as I can see) to keep them fresh in consumers' mind. interesting

05-21-2009, 12:52 PM	#41
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by lithos RiceHigh seems to be viewed as some sort of seer in regards to all things Pentax. I 'spose that's the power of the internet for ya - you don't need knowledge, or anything. Just moxie. More trouble than it's worth. The K-7 is getting a lot of chatter on photo.net as well including a lot of mis-information from rh. Pentax forum from Photo.net Maybe rh will actually buy a K7 before he reviews it unlike the past 6 or 7 digital bodies.

05-24-2009, 03:03 AM	#44
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	it's great pentax are getting more recognition though the release of the K7. I'll point out that the reception of cannons newer cameras was more lukewarm.

05-24-2009, 03:19 AM	#45
Maxington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 255	Originally posted by Blue The K-7 is getting a lot of chatter on photo.net as well including a lot of mis-information from rh. Pentax forum from Photo.net Maybe rh will actually buy a K7 before he reviews it unlike the past 6 or 7 digital bodies. Wow, is it me or do people on there just squint at the numbers on spec sheets and ignore major things like...price and weather sealing? Not to mention how Canon and Nikon tend to cripple their lower models to protect their higher models.