DxO will support K-7

robgo2 · 05-16-2009, 09:36 AM

This should be of interest to those Pentax fans who use or are considering using DxO Optics Pro for RAW conversions. I have been in contact with DxO's technical support team, and I mentioned the fact that the K-7 is about to be announced and that I hope DxO will support this new flagship camera of the Pentax line. Here is the reply that I received:

"The teams is also very aware of the new K-7. We post regular updates on modules we are working on on our website. Hopefully, you will find news about the K-7 in the near future."

This is very good news, as DxO is without a doubt the best RAW conversion program that I have yet seen. The K10D/DA*16-50 combo looks so good with DxO that I can barely imagine how the the K-7/DA*16-50 combo will look. I want them to support the 31 Ltd and 77 Ltd lenses as well, although I do not expect this to happen soon, if ever. But individual correction modules will only happen if DxO gets lots of requests from Pentax users for modules for specific camera/lens combinations. So, do not hesitate to make such requests on the DxO website in the Support window.

Rob

Last edited by robgo2; 05-16-2009 at 09:41 AM.

thibs · 05-16-2009, 10:21 AM

I will, thank you Rob.

I just hope they will support Pentax better. The lack of lenses modules is a pity.
I wonder if it is Pentax not sending them lenses are a corporate decision but I do not use DXO just because of that

robgo2 · 05-16-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by thibs

I will, thank you Rob.

I just hope they will support Pentax better. The lack of lenses modules is a pity.
I wonder if it is Pentax not sending them lenses are a corporate decision but I do not use DXO just because of that

Thibs, since Pentax has such a small market share, it is hard to imagine that DxO will devote huge resources to Pentax cameras and lenses. On the other hand, the development of correction modules may not be very difficult or expensive, once the basic system has been set up. So, I strongly suggest that you request all of the correction modules that you desire, and see if DxO will come through. We are still better off with Pentax than Olympus, which has no support at all.

Which lenses do you use? I have found that DxO is better than Lightroom even for non-supported lenses, so you might give it a try anyhow.

Rob

thibs · 05-16-2009, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by robgo2

Thibs, since Pentax has such a small market share, it is hard to imagine that DxO will devote huge resources to Pentax cameras and lenses. On the other hand, the development of correction modules may not be very difficult or expensive, once the basic system has been set up. So, I strongly suggest that you request all of the correction modules that you desire, and see if DxO will come through. We are still better off with Pentax than Olympus, which has no support at all.

Which lenses do you use? I have found that DxO is better than Lightroom even for non-supported lenses, so you might give it a try anyhow.

Rob

It may get a new try indeed. When I tested it (quite a time ago) it was slow as hell which is why I did pursue my investigation any longer.
Their support was really limited as for the modules but they had a deal with Samsung at a a time. Mmm I kept sending requests months ago, it didn't bring much infortunately.

The 50-200 is my only lens supported.
I often use: Sigma 28/1.8, FA50/1.4, DA16-45, DA50-200.

It makes me sick to see cheap Canons as well supported (although I understad why), I really wonder how many cheap Canons dslr users use DXO

I'd like to use DXO as a plugin for Aperture but I won't dig into evaluating the whole thing if more useful (for me) modules aren't available. I'm happy with Lightroom so I habe no reason to look for something else if there's no major incentive.

falconeye · 05-16-2009, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by robgo2

"The teams is also very aware of the new K-7. We post regular updates on modules we are working on on our website. Hopefully, you will find news about the K-7 in the near future."

One should think that DxO supports all bodies sharing the same sensor in a common way. Still, they don't support the K-m sharing the sensor of K10D. I don't think the antialias filter is that different. Hopefully, they change this policy with the K-7.

ftpaddict · 05-16-2009, 05:40 PM

Of course DxO will support it. DxO will support any enthusiast (or above) DSLR.

Now onto the next thread where they'll announce Adobe's Camera RAW support for the new K.

robgo2 · 05-16-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

One should think that DxO supports all bodies sharing the same sensor in a common way. Still, they don't support the K-m sharing the sensor of K10D. I don't think the antialias filter is that different. Hopefully, they change this policy with the K-7.

I suggest that you submit a request on the DxO website.

Rob

robgo2 · 05-16-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

Of course DxO will support it. DxO will support any enthusiast (or above) DSLR.

Now onto the next thread where they'll announce Adobe's Camera RAW support for the new K.

Not necessarily true. No Olympus, Panasonic or Leica cameras are supported, and some of them are definitely aimed at pros and advanced amateurs. On the other hand, a number of consumer level Nikon and Canon cameras are supported. I think it is in DxO's interest to support as many cameras and lenses as they reasonably can, which is why I encourage interested parties to submit specific requests. As the old saying goes, it's the squeaky wheel that gets greased.

Rob

deejjjaaaa · 05-16-2009, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

I don't think the antialias filter is that different.

still might be different and CFA might be different and surrounding circuitry might be different and if you think that they are the same then just patch the raw files from K2000 to look like K10D raws... very simple solution... moreover - if you have some spare time nobody prevents you from writing a program that will be taking raw data out of .PEF from K10D and more or less properly stuffing (along w/ some necessary tags) it into .NEF from a similar Nikon camera... it might work and along will come support for some Sigma/Tamron lenses.

robgo2 · 05-17-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by deejjjaaaa

moreover - if you have some spare time nobody prevents you from writing a program that will be taking raw data out of .PEF from K10D and more or less properly stuffing (along w/ some necessary tags) it into .NEF from a similar Nikon camera... it might work and along will come support for some Sigma/Tamron lenses.

Funniest post I have read in ages. I cannot believe the casual presumption that everyone reading this thread has the technical skill to do whatever it is that he wrote. For a moment, I thought that I must have wandered into a hackers' forum by mistake. Absolutely hysterical.

Rob

causey · 05-17-2009, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

One should think that DxO supports all bodies sharing the same sensor in a common way. Still, they don't support the K-m sharing the sensor of K10D. I don't think the antialias filter is that different. Hopefully, they change this policy with the K-7.

Anyone tried K-m or K200D raw's in DxO's K10D correction module?

robgo2 · 05-17-2009, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by causey

Anyone tried K-m or K200D raw's in DxO's K10D correction module?

I would be amazed if this would work, as each camera must be tagged for the software to recognize. DxO's correction modules are very camera and camera/lens specific. I doubt that different camera models containing the same sensor perform identically. If that were the case, then DxO would have no reason not to officially support all the "clone" cameras.

Rob

jem · 05-17-2009, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by causey

Anyone tried K-m or K200D raw's in DxO's K10D correction module?

DxO's current roadmap shows both the K200D & the K2000/K-m. Their turnaround time on their published road map has been approximately 1 month of late so I would expect K200D/K-m modules in June.

Best,
John

**RuiC** · 05-17-2009, 07:53 AM

Given the announced processing power of the K-7 what would you need DxO for?

thibs · 05-17-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by RuiC

Given the announced processing power of the K-7 what would you need DxO for?

Compare both results?

05-16-2009, 09:36 AM	#1
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125	DxO will support K-7 This should be of interest to those Pentax fans who use or are considering using DxO Optics Pro for RAW conversions. I have been in contact with DxO's technical support team, and I mentioned the fact that the K-7 is about to be announced and that I hope DxO will support this new flagship camera of the Pentax line. Here is the reply that I received: "The teams is also very aware of the new K-7. We post regular updates on modules we are working on on our website. Hopefully, you will find news about the K-7 in the near future." This is very good news, as DxO is without a doubt the best RAW conversion program that I have yet seen. The K10D/DA16-50 combo looks so good with DxO that I can barely imagine how the the K-7/DA16-50 combo will look. I want them to support the 31 Ltd and 77 Ltd lenses as well, although I do not expect this to happen soon, if ever. But individual correction modules will only happen if DxO gets lots of requests from Pentax users for modules for specific camera/lens combinations. So, do not hesitate to make such requests on the DxO website in the Support window. Rob Last edited by robgo2; 05-16-2009 at 09:41 AM.

05-16-2009, 09:54 PM	#9
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by falconeye I don't think the antialias filter is that different. still might be different and CFA might be different and surrounding circuitry might be different and if you think that they are the same then just patch the raw files from K2000 to look like K10D raws... very simple solution... moreover - if you have some spare time nobody prevents you from writing a program that will be taking raw data out of .PEF from K10D and more or less properly stuffing (along w/ some necessary tags) it into .NEF from a similar Nikon camera... it might work and along will come support for some Sigma/Tamron lenses. Last edited by deejjjaaaa; 05-16-2009 at 10:01 PM.

05-17-2009, 07:53 AM	#14
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Perfection Given the announced processing power of the K-7 what would you need DxO for?

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05-16-2009, 10:21 AM	#2
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	I will, thank you Rob. I just hope they will support Pentax better. The lack of lenses modules is a pity. I wonder if it is Pentax not sending them lenses are a corporate decision but I do not use DXO just because of that

05-16-2009, 12:17 PM	#3
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125 Original Poster	Originally posted by thibs I will, thank you Rob. I just hope they will support Pentax better. The lack of lenses modules is a pity. I wonder if it is Pentax not sending them lenses are a corporate decision but I do not use DXO just because of that Thibs, since Pentax has such a small market share, it is hard to imagine that DxO will devote huge resources to Pentax cameras and lenses. On the other hand, the development of correction modules may not be very difficult or expensive, once the basic system has been set up. So, I strongly suggest that you request all of the correction modules that you desire, and see if DxO will come through. We are still better off with Pentax than Olympus, which has no support at all. Which lenses do you use? I have found that DxO is better than Lightroom even for non-supported lenses, so you might give it a try anyhow. Rob

05-16-2009, 02:12 PM	#4
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by robgo2 Thibs, since Pentax has such a small market share, it is hard to imagine that DxO will devote huge resources to Pentax cameras and lenses. On the other hand, the development of correction modules may not be very difficult or expensive, once the basic system has been set up. So, I strongly suggest that you request all of the correction modules that you desire, and see if DxO will come through. We are still better off with Pentax than Olympus, which has no support at all. Which lenses do you use? I have found that DxO is better than Lightroom even for non-supported lenses, so you might give it a try anyhow. Rob It may get a new try indeed. When I tested it (quite a time ago) it was slow as hell which is why I did pursue my investigation any longer. Their support was really limited as for the modules but they had a deal with Samsung at a a time. Mmm I kept sending requests months ago, it didn't bring much infortunately. The 50-200 is my only lens supported. I often use: Sigma 28/1.8, FA50/1.4, DA16-45, DA50-200. It makes me sick to see cheap Canons as well supported (although I understad why), I really wonder how many cheap Canons dslr users use DXO I'd like to use DXO as a plugin for Aperture but I won't dig into evaluating the whole thing if more useful (for me) modules aren't available. I'm happy with Lightroom so I habe no reason to look for something else if there's no major incentive.

05-16-2009, 05:37 PM	#5
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by robgo2 "The teams is also very aware of the new K-7. We post regular updates on modules we are working on on our website. Hopefully, you will find news about the K-7 in the near future." One should think that DxO supports all bodies sharing the same sensor in a common way. Still, they don't support the K-m sharing the sensor of K10D. I don't think the antialias filter is that different. Hopefully, they change this policy with the K-7.

05-16-2009, 05:40 PM	#6
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Of course DxO will support it. DxO will support any enthusiast (or above) DSLR. Now onto the next thread where they'll announce Adobe's Camera RAW support for the new K.

05-16-2009, 09:38 PM	#7
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125 Original Poster	Originally posted by falconeye One should think that DxO supports all bodies sharing the same sensor in a common way. Still, they don't support the K-m sharing the sensor of K10D. I don't think the antialias filter is that different. Hopefully, they change this policy with the K-7. I suggest that you submit a request on the DxO website. Rob

05-16-2009, 09:46 PM	#8
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125 Original Poster	Originally posted by ftpaddict Of course DxO will support it. DxO will support any enthusiast (or above) DSLR. Now onto the next thread where they'll announce Adobe's Camera RAW support for the new K. Not necessarily true. No Olympus, Panasonic or Leica cameras are supported, and some of them are definitely aimed at pros and advanced amateurs. On the other hand, a number of consumer level Nikon and Canon cameras are supported. I think it is in DxO's interest to support as many cameras and lenses as they reasonably can, which is why I encourage interested parties to submit specific requests. As the old saying goes, it's the squeaky wheel that gets greased. Rob

05-17-2009, 12:38 AM	#10
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125 Original Poster	Originally posted by deejjjaaaa moreover - if you have some spare time nobody prevents you from writing a program that will be taking raw data out of .PEF from K10D and more or less properly stuffing (along w/ some necessary tags) it into .NEF from a similar Nikon camera... it might work and along will come support for some Sigma/Tamron lenses. Funniest post I have read in ages. I cannot believe the casual presumption that everyone reading this thread has the technical skill to do whatever it is that he wrote. For a moment, I thought that I must have wandered into a hackers' forum by mistake. Absolutely hysterical. Rob

05-17-2009, 01:18 AM	#11
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Originally posted by falconeye One should think that DxO supports all bodies sharing the same sensor in a common way. Still, they don't support the K-m sharing the sensor of K10D. I don't think the antialias filter is that different. Hopefully, they change this policy with the K-7. Anyone tried K-m or K200D raw's in DxO's K10D correction module?

05-17-2009, 01:48 AM	#12
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125 Original Poster	Originally posted by causey Anyone tried K-m or K200D raw's in DxO's K10D correction module? I would be amazed if this would work, as each camera must be tagged for the software to recognize. DxO's correction modules are very camera and camera/lens specific. I doubt that different camera models containing the same sensor perform identically. If that were the case, then DxO would have no reason not to officially support all the "clone" cameras. Rob

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05-17-2009, 07:11 AM	#13
jem Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 217	Originally posted by causey Anyone tried K-m or K200D raw's in DxO's K10D correction module? DxO's current roadmap shows both the K200D & the K2000/K-m. Their turnaround time on their published road map has been approximately 1 month of late so I would expect K200D/K-m modules in June. Best, John

05-17-2009, 08:32 AM	#15
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by RuiC Given the announced processing power of the K-7 what would you need DxO for? Compare both results?