Hands on with Pentax K7

kyramas · 05-19-2009, 02:09 AM

wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!!

I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only !

thibs · 05-19-2009, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by kyramas

wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!!

I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only !

Don't count on that. At all.

Vaikis_ · 05-19-2009, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by kyramas

wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!!

I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only !

1200 eur or even more. Pentax Europe prices insane now !!!

ftpaddict · 05-19-2009, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Yohan Pamudji

Please correct me if I'm wrong, since I've only been following Pentax for a little while, but the 50-200 looks like it's going back to the styling of older K-mount lenses, particularly the pattern on the focus and zoom rings--dots instead of ridges. I think this is what Pentax meant when they said they'd redesign a few lenses to match the new body. The K-7 takes some style cues from classic Pentax, and so do the new lenses. Regardless, I like!

It seems more likely that they stole Samsung's knurled rubber design, instead of Pentax' own ribbed pattern

Stole as in took, because it's their factory.

Enc0der · 05-19-2009, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by ogl

By adding a light source type to its data range, and driven by a greatly improved algorithm, this AF system assures reliable, responsive autofocus operation superior in speed and accuracy to the previous system. The K-7 also incorporates an AF-assisting spotbeam projector in its built-in flash unit to improve autofocusing accuracy in the dark.

Just wondering, if I use an external flash (540), is this AF-assist light on the K-7 is just useless? which one will be better? can I choose which one to use, or maybe I can use both? any advantage on either way?

lol101 · 05-19-2009, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by ogl

By adding a light source type to its data range, and driven by a greatly improved algorithm, this AF system assures reliable, responsive autofocus operation superior in speed and accuracy to the previous system.

I guess this means that we can probably kiss the AF dependance/innacuracies in different light sources "buh-bye"!

I know this problem never existed in the first place but I am still happy Pentax took care of it...

thibs · 05-19-2009, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by Vaikis_

1200 eur or even more. Pentax Europe prices insane now !!!

C'mon K20D was 1200-1300 when it came out.

Tyler · 05-19-2009, 03:01 AM

Could one not simply record the 1080i HDMI feed into a suitable device if they wanted to?

sveinmb · 05-19-2009, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by Tyler

Could one not simply record the 1080i HDMI feed into a suitable device if they wanted to?

No, because liveview most probably will be 480p to match the LCD of the camera. And it will probably not be 30fps either.

Why can't people understand that the 1080i mode is there to give you great _still_ images on your hdtv. Everything just has to be about video..

watchthewaves · 05-19-2009, 03:25 AM

Because to my simple non-techie mind, I'm thinking -- if its just for still images, why couldn't it have simply been 1080p. Why pass an interlaced signal and have to go through the deinterlacer in the TV? Wouldn't you get a better still image if you simply passed 1080p and skipped the need to deinterlace?

**ManuH** · 05-19-2009, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by watchthewaves

Because to my simple non-techie mind, I'm thinking -- if its just for still images, why couldn't it have simply been 1080p. Why pass an interlaced signal and have to go through the deinterlacer in the TV? Wouldn't you get a better still image if you simply passed 1080p and skipped the need to deinterlace?

It seems that sending 540 lines at 60fps (1080i) is easier than 1080p. With still images you won't see any difference between the two anyway.

Peter Fang · 05-19-2009, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by kyramas

wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!!

I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only !

In my Chinese original text I wrote that estimated price of the K-7 is going to be slightly over RMB8,000, not far from K20D's introductory price here in China a year ago. I bought my K20D shortly after it was available in China, for RMB8,300. Now it's only RMB4,xxx. I will wait for the K-7 to drop below RMB8K to start consider buying it as I will need to get new batteries and possibly a new grip for it.

Peter

raider · 05-19-2009, 04:01 AM

WOW!!! This is one impressive camera!! Must definitely get one!!

One thing I would like to know is that can you turn NR off when doing long exposure?

vinzer · 05-19-2009, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Peter Fang

In my Chinese original text I wrote that estimated price of the K-7 is going to be slightly over RMB8,000, not far from K20D's introductory price here in China a year ago. I bought my K20D shortly after it was available in China, for RMB8,300. Now it's only RMB4,xxx. I will wait for the K-7 to drop below RMB8K to start consider buying it as I will need to get new batteries and possibly a new grip for it.

Peter

If it comes in at the K20D's original MSRP, I won't complain. It's a reasonable price for all the fluff and for being, well, the best Pentax DSLR thus far.

vizjerei · 05-19-2009, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by raider

WOW!!! This is one impressive camera!! Must definitely get one!!

One thing I would like to know is that can you turn NR off when doing long exposure?

I think it can, See : "Slow Shutter Speed NR" in the pic

05-19-2009, 02:14 AM	#93
Vaikis_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213	Originally posted by kyramas wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!! I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only ! 1200 eur or even more. Pentax Europe prices insane now !!! Last edited by Vaikis_; 05-19-2009 at 02:19 AM.

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05-19-2009, 02:09 AM	#91
kyramas Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Athens Photos: Gallery Posts: 37	wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!! I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only !

05-19-2009, 02:11 AM	#92
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by kyramas wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!! I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only ! Don't count on that. At all.

05-19-2009, 02:23 AM	#94
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by Yohan Pamudji Please correct me if I'm wrong, since I've only been following Pentax for a little while, but the 50-200 looks like it's going back to the styling of older K-mount lenses, particularly the pattern on the focus and zoom rings--dots instead of ridges. I think this is what Pentax meant when they said they'd redesign a few lenses to match the new body. The K-7 takes some style cues from classic Pentax, and so do the new lenses. Regardless, I like! It seems more likely that they stole Samsung's knurled rubber design, instead of Pentax' own ribbed pattern Stole as in took, because it's their factory.

05-19-2009, 02:33 AM	#95
Enc0der Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 107	Originally posted by ogl By adding a light source type to its data range, and driven by a greatly improved algorithm, this AF system assures reliable, responsive autofocus operation superior in speed and accuracy to the previous system. The K-7 also incorporates an AF-assisting spotbeam projector in its built-in flash unit to improve autofocusing accuracy in the dark. Just wondering, if I use an external flash (540), is this AF-assist light on the K-7 is just useless? which one will be better? can I choose which one to use, or maybe I can use both? any advantage on either way?

05-19-2009, 02:37 AM	#96
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by ogl By adding a light source type to its data range, and driven by a greatly improved algorithm, this AF system assures reliable, responsive autofocus operation superior in speed and accuracy to the previous system. I guess this means that we can probably kiss the AF dependance/innacuracies in different light sources "buh-bye"! I know this problem never existed in the first place but I am still happy Pentax took care of it...

05-19-2009, 02:42 AM	#97
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Vaikis_ 1200 eur or even more. Pentax Europe prices insane now !!! C'mon K20D was 1200-1300 when it came out.

05-19-2009, 03:01 AM	#98
Tyler Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Photos: Gallery Posts: 478	Could one not simply record the 1080i HDMI feed into a suitable device if they wanted to?

05-19-2009, 03:17 AM	#99
sveinmb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 127	Originally posted by Tyler Could one not simply record the 1080i HDMI feed into a suitable device if they wanted to? No, because liveview most probably will be 480p to match the LCD of the camera. And it will probably not be 30fps either. Why can't people understand that the 1080i mode is there to give you great _still_ images on your hdtv. Everything just has to be about video..

05-19-2009, 03:25 AM	#100
watchthewaves Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 14	Because to my simple non-techie mind, I'm thinking -- if its just for still images, why couldn't it have simply been 1080p. Why pass an interlaced signal and have to go through the deinterlacer in the TV? Wouldn't you get a better still image if you simply passed 1080p and skipped the need to deinterlace?

05-19-2009, 03:38 AM	#101
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Originally posted by watchthewaves Because to my simple non-techie mind, I'm thinking -- if its just for still images, why couldn't it have simply been 1080p. Why pass an interlaced signal and have to go through the deinterlacer in the TV? Wouldn't you get a better still image if you simply passed 1080p and skipped the need to deinterlace? It seems that sending 540 lines at 60fps (1080i) is easier than 1080p. With still images you won't see any difference between the two anyway.

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05-19-2009, 03:40 AM	#102
Peter Fang Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 58	Originally posted by kyramas wow 8000 RMB is about 860 euros !!!! I would be pleased if its under 1000 euros body only ! In my Chinese original text I wrote that estimated price of the K-7 is going to be slightly over RMB8,000, not far from K20D's introductory price here in China a year ago. I bought my K20D shortly after it was available in China, for RMB8,300. Now it's only RMB4,xxx. I will wait for the K-7 to drop below RMB8K to start consider buying it as I will need to get new batteries and possibly a new grip for it. Peter

05-19-2009, 04:01 AM	#103
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	WOW!!! This is one impressive camera!! Must definitely get one!! One thing I would like to know is that can you turn NR off when doing long exposure?

05-19-2009, 05:56 AM	#104
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by Peter Fang In my Chinese original text I wrote that estimated price of the K-7 is going to be slightly over RMB8,000, not far from K20D's introductory price here in China a year ago. I bought my K20D shortly after it was available in China, for RMB8,300. Now it's only RMB4,xxx. I will wait for the K-7 to drop below RMB8K to start consider buying it as I will need to get new batteries and possibly a new grip for it. Peter If it comes in at the K20D's original MSRP, I won't complain. It's a reasonable price for all the fluff and for being, well, the best Pentax DSLR thus far.

05-19-2009, 06:26 AM	#105
vizjerei Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,418	Originally posted by raider WOW!!! This is one impressive camera!! Must definitely get one!! One thing I would like to know is that can you turn NR off when doing long exposure? I think it can, See : "Slow Shutter Speed NR" in the pic