A new 50-200mm WR lens too..

Bophoto · 05-19-2009, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by PiratStian

Except that the K-M isn't WR itself, so there really isn't that much sense in having a WR lens.

Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100.
But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II.

I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR.

Andi Lo · 05-19-2009, 03:29 AM

I think if anything is to be WR-ed next it will be the DA limiteds rather than the FA. If the FA 50 got WRed, it will compete with the DA*

Acliffalay · 05-19-2009, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by Bophoto

Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100.
But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II.

I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR.

The filter thread has changed to 49mm, so perhaps the optical formula has changed as well. I liked my 50-200 alot, very portable and light.
Besides, the way I would use the lens, the image would be degraded more from the mud and salt water on the lens than any optical imperfections...

Bophoto · 05-19-2009, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

I think if anything is to be WR-ed next it will be the DA limiteds rather than the FA. If the FA 50 got WRed, it will compete with the DA*

Why not, they sell the FA lenses so why not?

In rain you probably use a fast lens, as FA50 or FA35...

Hope they come with DA17-70WR and DA55-300WR too,
because with long zooms you don´t have to change it so much
and get rain inside the camera.

**Rondec** · 05-19-2009, 04:11 AM

I think the point of the lens is not the image quality. I have seen many posters ask the question "should I get Pentax, it's weather sealed?" The question from the Canon/Nikon camps is "sure, but can you afford a weather sealed lens to go with it?"

I have said for a long time that just as other camera makers have two versions of their lenses, one with image stabilization and one without, Pentax should do the same with weather sealing. A lot of people would spend a little extra to get that.

Bophoto · 05-19-2009, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think the point of the lens is not the image quality. I have seen many posters ask the question "should I get Pentax, it's weather sealed?" The question from the Canon/Nikon camps is "sure, but can you afford a weather sealed lens to go with it?"

I have said for a long time that just as other camera makers have two versions of their lenses, one with image stabilization and one without, Pentax should do the same with weather sealing. A lot of people would spend a little extra to get that.

Yes you have a point there, but i don´t think a new design of 50-200 are more expensive to produce. So perhaps DA-L 50-200 are already updated or DA50-200WR can be a little more expensive as it already are more expensive because of WR.
Perhaps WR lenses don´t have the same class of WR as the star lenses.

ewalk · 05-19-2009, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by Bophoto

Why not, they sell the FA lenses so why not?

In rain you probably use a fast lens, as FA50 or FA35...

They won't seal the FA50 because of the DA*55.

Buddha Jones · 05-19-2009, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by Bophoto

Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100.
But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II.

I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR.

The FA35 and FA50 aren't getting anything but discontinued IMO, the FA35 already is, the FA50 won't be too far behind it.

I am thinking that this is the precurser to a couple more bodies coming out this year. I think it is clear that the WR 18-55mm and 50-200mm were not intended for the K-7, the Hoya CEO said so himself, teh K-7 was intended to be built to the detailed specs of the DA LTD's and was not to be considered the replacement for the K20D. And while the new WR Kit lenses may be opticaly great, I can't see someone dropping serious coin on a top knotch body and then dropping those lenses on it.

So with some WR kit lenses, it only makes sense that they introduse a WR kit camera, a new K2000 that is WR as well would be the logical solution IMO, although the K200 is WR as well... so that may fill the gap, maybe one os those will bite the dust in the future. The K20D replacement will be designed for the DA* lenses. I think that Pentax is wising up and making a lens line for every camera body that it makes.

mattdm · 05-19-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Buddha Jones

I think that Pentax is wising up and making a lens line for every camera body that it makes.

Sounds like a good call, and an interesting strategy — none of the other camera manufacturers work that way.

ogl · 05-19-2009, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Bophoto

Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100.
But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II.

I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR.

DA50-200 has a bit worse resolution than DA55-300, but better colour and bokeh.
IMO.
If Pentax improve resolution of 50-200, it will be very good at K-7.

NickC · 05-19-2009, 05:48 AM

I think the 18-55 WR and 50-200 WR would be perfectly suited to the K7 because of their size. The 16-50 DA* is already too big on the K20D, so would swamp the K7. I regularly use the 50-200 on the K20D, so think a WR version would be a perfect match to the K7.

vinzer · 05-19-2009, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think the point of the lens is not the image quality. I have seen many posters ask the question "should I get Pentax, it's weather sealed?" The question from the Canon/Nikon camps is "sure, but can you afford a weather sealed lens to go with it?"

I have said for a long time that just as other camera makers have two versions of their lenses, one with image stabilization and one without, Pentax should do the same with weather sealing. A lot of people would spend a little extra to get that.

Agreed. I just hope Pentax doesn't overprice these new WR lenses, since they still are kit lenses.

Olympus with their relatively fast 14-54mm managed to sell for ~$400 (the first one, not the updated one), so I'm hoping Pentax can also sell theirs at a price lower, since the kit lenses are nowhere near being fast.

pederd · 05-19-2009, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by Acliffalay

The filter thread has changed to 49mm, so perhaps the optical formula has changed as well. I liked my 50-200 alot, very portable and light.
Besides, the way I would use the lens, the image would be degraded more from the mud and salt water on the lens than any optical imperfections...

Have I missed something... Mine DA50-200 has 49mm thread and allways has...

Buddha Jones · 05-19-2009, 08:13 AM

Appearently you're missing your glasses or a couple years of early schooling. It's 52mm.... The new 50-200mm is 49mm and it looks totally different than the current 50-200mm.

pederd · 05-19-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Buddha Jones

Appearently you're missing your glasses or a couple years of early schooling. It's 52mm.... The new 50-200mm is 49mm and it looks totally different than the current 50-200mm.

Yea, I just noticed that that

(actually I have glasses, maybe time to change

)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
K-x: 55-200mm kit lens vs Sigma 70-300mm APO lens	ChopperCharles	Troubleshooting and Beginner Help	9	01-19-2010 10:16 PM
For Sale - Sold: 18-55mm kit lens & Pentax 50-200mm lens, competitive prices...	phatjoe	Sold Items	5	02-25-2009 08:45 PM

05-19-2009, 03:19 AM	#16
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Originally posted by PiratStian Except that the K-M isn't WR itself, so there really isn't that much sense in having a WR lens. Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100. But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II. I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR.

05-19-2009, 03:29 AM	#17
Andi Lo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 2,924	I think if anything is to be WR-ed next it will be the DA limiteds rather than the FA. If the FA 50 got WRed, it will compete with the DA*

05-19-2009, 04:04 AM	#18
Acliffalay Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southampton UK Posts: 80	Originally posted by Bophoto Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100. But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II. I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR. The filter thread has changed to 49mm, so perhaps the optical formula has changed as well. I liked my 50-200 alot, very portable and light. Besides, the way I would use the lens, the image would be degraded more from the mud and salt water on the lens than any optical imperfections...

05-19-2009, 04:11 AM	#19
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Originally posted by Andi Lo I think if anything is to be WR-ed next it will be the DA limiteds rather than the FA. If the FA 50 got WRed, it will compete with the DA* Why not, they sell the FA lenses so why not? In rain you probably use a fast lens, as FA50 or FA35... Hope they come with DA17-70WR and DA55-300WR too, because with long zooms you don´t have to change it so much and get rain inside the camera.

05-19-2009, 04:11 AM	#20
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	I think the point of the lens is not the image quality. I have seen many posters ask the question "should I get Pentax, it's weather sealed?" The question from the Canon/Nikon camps is "sure, but can you afford a weather sealed lens to go with it?" I have said for a long time that just as other camera makers have two versions of their lenses, one with image stabilization and one without, Pentax should do the same with weather sealing. A lot of people would spend a little extra to get that.

05-19-2009, 04:25 AM	#21
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Originally posted by Rondec I think the point of the lens is not the image quality. I have seen many posters ask the question "should I get Pentax, it's weather sealed?" The question from the Canon/Nikon camps is "sure, but can you afford a weather sealed lens to go with it?" I have said for a long time that just as other camera makers have two versions of their lenses, one with image stabilization and one without, Pentax should do the same with weather sealing. A lot of people would spend a little extra to get that. Yes you have a point there, but i don´t think a new design of 50-200 are more expensive to produce. So perhaps DA-L 50-200 are already updated or DA50-200WR can be a little more expensive as it already are more expensive because of WR. Perhaps WR lenses don´t have the same class of WR as the star lenses.

05-19-2009, 04:42 AM	#22
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by Bophoto Why not, they sell the FA lenses so why not? In rain you probably use a fast lens, as FA50 or FA35... They won't seal the FA50 because of the DA*55.

05-19-2009, 05:15 AM	#23
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Originally posted by Bophoto Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100. But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II. I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR. The FA35 and FA50 aren't getting anything but discontinued IMO, the FA35 already is, the FA50 won't be too far behind it. I am thinking that this is the precurser to a couple more bodies coming out this year. I think it is clear that the WR 18-55mm and 50-200mm were not intended for the K-7, the Hoya CEO said so himself, teh K-7 was intended to be built to the detailed specs of the DA LTD's and was not to be considered the replacement for the K20D. And while the new WR Kit lenses may be opticaly great, I can't see someone dropping serious coin on a top knotch body and then dropping those lenses on it. So with some WR kit lenses, it only makes sense that they introduse a WR kit camera, a new K2000 that is WR as well would be the logical solution IMO, although the K200 is WR as well... so that may fill the gap, maybe one os those will bite the dust in the future. The K20D replacement will be designed for the DA* lenses. I think that Pentax is wising up and making a lens line for every camera body that it makes.

05-19-2009, 05:23 AM	#24
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by Buddha Jones I think that Pentax is wising up and making a lens line for every camera body that it makes. Sounds like a good call, and an interesting strategy — none of the other camera manufacturers work that way.

05-19-2009, 05:36 AM	#25
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Bophoto Yes, that´s right, but DA50-200 are not in class with K10/20, more suitable on ist* DL/DS/K100. But hopefully they have updated the lens optics as DA18-55 II and just call it DA50-200WR, without a II. I´m wonder if FA35 and FA50 are going WR too, since the pricechock in January FA35 and FA50 are now back to good old prices in Sweden, perhaps they sell out them because of the new FA35WR and FA50WR. DA50-200 has a bit worse resolution than DA55-300, but better colour and bokeh. IMO. If Pentax improve resolution of 50-200, it will be very good at K-7.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

05-19-2009, 05:48 AM	#26
NickC Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 53	I think the 18-55 WR and 50-200 WR would be perfectly suited to the K7 because of their size. The 16-50 DA* is already too big on the K20D, so would swamp the K7. I regularly use the 50-200 on the K20D, so think a WR version would be a perfect match to the K7.

05-19-2009, 06:05 AM	#27
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by Rondec I think the point of the lens is not the image quality. I have seen many posters ask the question "should I get Pentax, it's weather sealed?" The question from the Canon/Nikon camps is "sure, but can you afford a weather sealed lens to go with it?" I have said for a long time that just as other camera makers have two versions of their lenses, one with image stabilization and one without, Pentax should do the same with weather sealing. A lot of people would spend a little extra to get that. Agreed. I just hope Pentax doesn't overprice these new WR lenses, since they still are kit lenses. Olympus with their relatively fast 14-54mm managed to sell for ~$400 (the first one, not the updated one), so I'm hoping Pentax can also sell theirs at a price lower, since the kit lenses are nowhere near being fast.

05-19-2009, 06:58 AM	#28
pederd New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norrtälje, Sweden Posts: 14	Originally posted by Acliffalay The filter thread has changed to 49mm, so perhaps the optical formula has changed as well. I liked my 50-200 alot, very portable and light. Besides, the way I would use the lens, the image would be degraded more from the mud and salt water on the lens than any optical imperfections... Have I missed something... Mine DA50-200 has 49mm thread and allways has...

05-19-2009, 08:13 AM	#29
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Appearently you're missing your glasses or a couple years of early schooling. It's 52mm.... The new 50-200mm is 49mm and it looks totally different than the current 50-200mm.

05-19-2009, 11:36 AM	#30
pederd New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norrtälje, Sweden Posts: 14	Originally posted by Buddha Jones Appearently you're missing your glasses or a couple years of early schooling. It's 52mm.... The new 50-200mm is 49mm and it looks totally different than the current 50-200mm. Yea, I just noticed that that (actually I have glasses, maybe time to change )