We're Getting Cheap WR Lenses! Yeehaa!

RMabo · 05-20-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by ajuett

There are a lot of K200D users, how many will toss their perfectly good non-WR 18-55, 50-200 lenses for these new WR models? The guts of the K-m should have been put in the K200D body. This would have also saved Pentax time designing and spending money on the new K-m body. This is a step sideways and 45 degree turn backwards.

A simplified and less expensive version of the K-7 will come later this year, replacing the K200D. For this the WR 18-55 and 50-200 are perfect.

K-m shooters has the DA-L non WR-lenses. Fine for them.

kevinschoenmakers · 05-20-2009, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by RMabo

A simplified and less expensive version of the K-7 will come later this year

any source?

GoldenWreckedAngle · 05-20-2009, 12:10 PM

These are pretty decent kit level lenses and the weather resistance is a welcome addition. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the better glass sealed up too, maybe even from third party manufacturers.

**rparmar** · 05-20-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by GaryM

I hope they improved the DA50-200. Maybe I got a bad copy, but mine is definitely lacking in sharpness even stopped down. My DA18-55 II on the other hand is excellent.

Indeed, from what I've seen the Mk II is a lot better than the Mk I. But the 50-200 is no great performer. Should have been the 55-300 they weather-sealed. It's not the best lens ever but is an amazing zoom for the price and a great compromise between expense and performance.

Has anyone else noticed this makes four versions of the kit lens? That's a bit crazy.

Buddha Jones · 05-20-2009, 12:53 PM

Has the K200D officially been discontinued? It is still on the web-site...

Ratmagiclady · 05-20-2009, 01:19 PM

I'm pretty unlikely to spend two hundred or more on a kit lens, myself, but it really looks like these'll make a lot of people happy.

And maybe there'll be a used 50-200 out there for me: I use tele-zooms rarely enough that it could be worthwhile to grab one.

ajuett · 05-20-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by RMabo

A simplified and less expensive version of the K-7 will come later this year, replacing the K200D. For this the WR 18-55 and 50-200 are perfect.

K-m shooters has the DA-L non WR-lenses. Fine for them.

Just for and example; The K-m is $599 Cdn with the kit 18-55 DA-L lens. The K200D body only is $599.00 Cdn. For estimate sake lets say the K-7 with 18-55 WR is $1600 Cdn. Dimes to dollars the 'replacement' of the K200D will be a $1000ish body and compete with the D90, T1i, E-620. Therefore it won't be the deal it use to be. This is the point I'm making. It's too bad as Pentax could have used that as a Very useful marketing tool against the half-baked LV that Canon (XSi) has.

If I was buying Pentax right now, I'd find a new K200D and use my existing lenses until the WR's arrived.

lpfonseca · 05-20-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers

Personal prediction: K200D+18-55WR will be a very popular combination.

My opinion too. It is just the perfect combo for a starter.

Blue · 05-20-2009, 02:42 PM

The list price of the K7 at $1299 USD is going to make things interesting for the K20d. It seems that it would make more since to "retire" the K20d from the line up and update the K200d a bit from some of the improvements to the K-m.

**rparmar** · 05-20-2009, 03:14 PM

An update to the K200D is supposedly the next thing coming... at the turn of the year.

jct us101 · 05-20-2009, 03:56 PM

If I can't afford the K-7 then I'm definitely getting the K200D or the K10D with these lenses!

er1kksen · 05-20-2009, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

Has anyone else noticed this makes four versions of the kit lens? That's a bit crazy.

More if you count the white and hunter green versions.

**rparmar** · 05-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by er1kksen

More if you count the white and hunter green versions.

He he - yeah! So, six versions, two cosmetic only. That must be some sort of a record.

tonyjayice · 05-20-2009, 07:27 PM

Isn't Sigma on its way to make an affordable line of somewhat Weather Resistant lenses?.. as I heard their new Dslr will have some sort of sealing and resistance..
that's my two pennies and thought.. so maybe we'll get "Cheapish" Sigma lenses sealed up and ready for some Pentax hammering..

vinzer · 05-21-2009, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers

I didn't know it has been discontinued. That's either of these 2 options:

1) Stupid, a relatively cheap WR-kit would sell well.
2) An indication a new entry-level WR body is upcoming. Perhaps a WR K-M.

Well, K20D prices are already ridiculously low, so I'm thinking Pentax will keep the K20D in tow until the next K200D-level camera will come out.

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05-20-2009, 11:44 AM	#16
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by ajuett There are a lot of K200D users, how many will toss their perfectly good non-WR 18-55, 50-200 lenses for these new WR models? The guts of the K-m should have been put in the K200D body. This would have also saved Pentax time designing and spending money on the new K-m body. This is a step sideways and 45 degree turn backwards. A simplified and less expensive version of the K-7 will come later this year, replacing the K200D. For this the WR 18-55 and 50-200 are perfect. K-m shooters has the DA-L non WR-lenses. Fine for them.

05-20-2009, 12:02 PM	#17
kevinschoenmakers Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shanghai Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,509	Originally posted by RMabo A simplified and less expensive version of the K-7 will come later this year any source?

05-20-2009, 12:10 PM	#18
GoldenWreckedAngle Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 339	These are pretty decent kit level lenses and the weather resistance is a welcome addition. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the better glass sealed up too, maybe even from third party manufacturers.

05-20-2009, 12:17 PM	#19
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by GaryM I hope they improved the DA50-200. Maybe I got a bad copy, but mine is definitely lacking in sharpness even stopped down. My DA18-55 II on the other hand is excellent. Indeed, from what I've seen the Mk II is a lot better than the Mk I. But the 50-200 is no great performer. Should have been the 55-300 they weather-sealed. It's not the best lens ever but is an amazing zoom for the price and a great compromise between expense and performance. Has anyone else noticed this makes four versions of the kit lens? That's a bit crazy.

05-20-2009, 12:53 PM	#20
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Has the K200D officially been discontinued? It is still on the web-site...

05-20-2009, 01:19 PM	#21
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	I'm pretty unlikely to spend two hundred or more on a kit lens, myself, but it really looks like these'll make a lot of people happy. And maybe there'll be a used 50-200 out there for me: I use tele-zooms rarely enough that it could be worthwhile to grab one.

05-20-2009, 01:45 PM	#22
ajuett Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,100	Originally posted by RMabo A simplified and less expensive version of the K-7 will come later this year, replacing the K200D. For this the WR 18-55 and 50-200 are perfect. K-m shooters has the DA-L non WR-lenses. Fine for them. Just for and example; The K-m is $599 Cdn with the kit 18-55 DA-L lens. The K200D body only is $599.00 Cdn. For estimate sake lets say the K-7 with 18-55 WR is $1600 Cdn. Dimes to dollars the 'replacement' of the K200D will be a $1000ish body and compete with the D90, T1i, E-620. Therefore it won't be the deal it use to be. This is the point I'm making. It's too bad as Pentax could have used that as a Very useful marketing tool against the half-baked LV that Canon (XSi) has. If I was buying Pentax right now, I'd find a new K200D and use my existing lenses until the WR's arrived.

05-20-2009, 02:38 PM	#23
lpfonseca Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lisbon Posts: 143	Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers Personal prediction: K200D+18-55WR will be a very popular combination. My opinion too. It is just the perfect combo for a starter.

05-20-2009, 02:42 PM	#24
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	The list price of the K7 at $1299 USD is going to make things interesting for the K20d. It seems that it would make more since to "retire" the K20d from the line up and update the K200d a bit from some of the improvements to the K-m.

05-20-2009, 03:14 PM	#25
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	An update to the K200D is supposedly the next thing coming... at the turn of the year.

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05-20-2009, 03:56 PM	#26
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	If I can't afford the K-7 then I'm definitely getting the K200D or the K10D with these lenses!

05-20-2009, 04:03 PM	#27
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Originally posted by rparmar Has anyone else noticed this makes four versions of the kit lens? That's a bit crazy. More if you count the white and hunter green versions.

05-20-2009, 05:58 PM	#28
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by er1kksen More if you count the white and hunter green versions. He he - yeah! So, six versions, two cosmetic only. That must be some sort of a record.

05-20-2009, 07:27 PM	#29
tonyjayice Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Photos: Albums Posts: 151	Isn't Sigma on its way to make an affordable line of somewhat Weather Resistant lenses?.. as I heard their new Dslr will have some sort of sealing and resistance.. that's my two pennies and thought.. so maybe we'll get "Cheapish" Sigma lenses sealed up and ready for some Pentax hammering..

05-21-2009, 12:16 AM	#30
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399 Original Poster	Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers I didn't know it has been discontinued. That's either of these 2 options: 1) Stupid, a relatively cheap WR-kit would sell well. 2) An indication a new entry-level WR body is upcoming. Perhaps a WR K-M. Well, K20D prices are already ridiculously low, so I'm thinking Pentax will keep the K20D in tow until the next K200D-level camera will come out.