K-7 is old news. Howwill the K30D top that?

Mark D · 05-20-2009, 08:44 AM

K7 was sooo close with 1920 x1080 HD. I think the K30D will be expected to have it now....
Hopefully they will include non JapAmerican frame rates! 25fps please.
Smaller body ( K-7 sized hopefully)?
Bigger sensor? Do we really need it?
100% viewfinder, with SPLIT PRISM as an optional OEM screen!!!!
Live histogram in VF etc...
WATERPROOF Limiteds!

Or do we need a K30D and just move on to the K6 or is it K8

Torphoto · 05-20-2009, 08:46 AM

the K30D should be below the K7 so don't expect it to be better

nosnoop · 05-20-2009, 08:50 AM

I don't think there will be a K30D.
They are going to use a new numbering system. And the next camera would probably be a "dumbed down" K-7 to replace K200D; but as with K20D, not a direct replacement model.

lesmore49 · 05-20-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Mark D

K7 was sooo close with 1920 x1080 HD. I think the K30D will be expected to have it now....
Hopefully they will include non JapAmerican frame rates! 25fps please.
Smaller body ( K-7 sized hopefully)?
Bigger sensor? Do we really need it?
100% viewfinder, with SPLIT PRISM as an optional OEM screen!!!!
Live histogram in VF etc...
WATERPROOF Limiteds!

Or do we need a K30D and just move on to the K6 or is it K8

Sooo easy to be blase about new things isn't it.

In contrast I think the K7 is a worthy successor to the past high end Pentax camera's...the K10D (I have one) and the K20D.

Metal body, 1/8000th of a second shutter more seals, intro of more weather resistant lenses, movie capability , as one review says quite a competitor for the Nikon D300....the list goes on.

I liked the K20D but I didn't think it offered enough difference to trade in my K10D...the K7....I'd love to have one.

At this point, until I see actual photographic results and an in depth test of a regular production model, not just pre-productions...it's too early to say whether the K7 gets a Gold Star.

But so far all I've read...makes me feel very optimistic about this new machine. I think Pentax may have scored a hat trick (hockey analogy for hitting one out of the park for the non Canadians out there) with the K7....but let's wait and see...after all the reviews and tests are in.

gazonk · 05-20-2009, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by Torphoto

the K30D should be below the K7 so don't expect it to be better

It should be evident by now that thee won't be any K30d. The next camera will probably be somewhere between the K-m and the K-7. Probably better specs than K20d, but with controls more like the K200d. E.g. scene modes.

lesmore49 · 05-20-2009, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by nosnoop

I don't think there will be a K30D.
They are going to use a new numbering system. And the next camera would probably be a "dumbed down" K-7 to replace K200D; but as with K20D, not a direct replacement model.

I agree...that makes sense...the K7 is the heir to the top line Pentax cameras...first the K10D, then the K20D and now the K7. I do believe as you say the next camera will replace the K200D. I would say within a few months. I think by October, in time for Xmas is my guess.

mwcfire · 05-20-2009, 08:57 AM

I plan on purchasing the K7. I have a K10 and the K20 just didn't have enough features to make me want one. The K7 does!

**Hannican** · 05-20-2009, 09:01 AM

I'm in the same boat- I love my K10D, but the K20 just didn't bring it like it would have had to for me to drop that kind of cash... I'd rather load up on lenses (which I did).

The K7, however... now that's another story...

Cosmo · 05-20-2009, 09:06 AM

No video, the K7 can have the video feature.

and · 05-20-2009, 09:13 AM

I hope they keep this sensor and keep refining it to evolve the basic features, get it from 4 channel readout to 6channel or even 8channel, increase video resolution and fps, work on the dr and noise

Ratmagiclady · 05-20-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

It should be evident by now that thee won't be any K30d. The next camera will probably be somewhere between the K-m and the K-7. Probably better specs than K20d, but with controls more like the K200d. E.g. scene modes.

People are saying 'No K30d,' but, I'm not so sure... the way it looks to me, now, the 'entry level' has gone down toward things like the K-M... and the K20d's still kicks butt in the price range: I bet they could split the difference between the K-7 and the K-M in price and features and come up with something very K20d-ish: they could really keep taking advantage of the fact that the K20d's the best bang for the buck for poorer-but-serious photography people. They could basically just speed these guys up a little, toss some scene modes in the firmware, and call em a heck of an intermediate.

(Or, of course, they could beef up the K200d a fair bit, or make something new, but I think they don't need to make as many concessions to 'entry level' users as they did when the 100 series came out. If they're sort of straddling the market niches on price and features, anyway, it seems logical they might keep up the pattern. )

Mark D · 05-20-2009, 10:03 AM

Well I guess the K7 really has put the cat amongst the pigeons.
It is better than the K20 so if the autumn camera is a K30 D how do they pitch it. The only thing I can see them doing to differentiate it from the K7 is keeping it a stills only platform, otherwise it encroaches on K7 sales. I think the next camera will be aimed at the k300 sector. A slightly improved K20 in a K200 sized body.

Unless the real surprise is that the K7 is the K200 replacement and the K30D really blows everything else out of the water!!

Don’t worry, I’ll wake up in a minute, just let me enjoy the dream for a little longer………

PNTXFTW12 · 05-20-2009, 11:47 AM

i really hope the next camera has 1080p recording

pcarfan · 05-20-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by mwcfire

I plan on purchasing the K7. I have a K10 and the K20 just didn't have enough features to make me want one. The K7 does!

+1, me too...I will most definitely buy one.

gazonk · 05-20-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

People are saying 'No K30d,' but, I'm not so sure... the way it looks to me, now, the 'entry level' has gone down toward things like the K-M... and the K20d's still kicks butt in the price range: I bet they could split the difference between the K-7 and the K-M in price and features and come up with something very K20d-ish

Well, the K20d will probably fill the gap between K-m and K-7 until the new camera arrives. The point is that the new camera will probably bear a family resemblance to the K-7 and not to the Kxxd- or Kxxxd- series, which both are history now.

So I assume we'll see a camera which is similar to the K-7, but specced more like the K20d. And I assume they'll add scene modes etc. like the K200d has - even the 50d has scene modes!

05-20-2009, 08:44 AM	#1
Mark D Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hertfordshire UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 44	K-7 is old news. Howwill the K30D top that? K7 was sooo close with 1920 x1080 HD. I think the K30D will be expected to have it now.... Hopefully they will include non JapAmerican frame rates! 25fps please. Smaller body ( K-7 sized hopefully)? Bigger sensor? Do we really need it? 100% viewfinder, with SPLIT PRISM as an optional OEM screen!!!! Live histogram in VF etc... WATERPROOF Limiteds! Or do we need a K30D and just move on to the K6 or is it K8

05-20-2009, 09:30 AM	#11
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by gazonk It should be evident by now that thee won't be any K30d. The next camera will probably be somewhere between the K-m and the K-7. Probably better specs than K20d, but with controls more like the K200d. E.g. scene modes. People are saying 'No K30d,' but, I'm not so sure... the way it looks to me, now, the 'entry level' has gone down toward things like the K-M... and the K20d's still kicks butt in the price range: I bet they could split the difference between the K-7 and the K-M in price and features and come up with something very K20d-ish: they could really keep taking advantage of the fact that the K20d's the best bang for the buck for poorer-but-serious photography people. They could basically just speed these guys up a little, toss some scene modes in the firmware, and call em a heck of an intermediate. (Or, of course, they could beef up the K200d a fair bit, or make something new, but I think they don't need to make as many concessions to 'entry level' users as they did when the 100 series came out. If they're sort of straddling the market niches on price and features, anyway, it seems logical they might keep up the pattern. ) Last edited by Ratmagiclady; 05-20-2009 at 09:52 AM.

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05-20-2009, 08:46 AM	#2
Torphoto Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trinidad W.I. Photos: Gallery Posts: 612	the K30D should be below the K7 so don't expect it to be better

05-20-2009, 08:50 AM	#3
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	I don't think there will be a K30D. They are going to use a new numbering system. And the next camera would probably be a "dumbed down" K-7 to replace K200D; but as with K20D, not a direct replacement model.

05-20-2009, 08:53 AM	#4
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,349	Originally posted by Mark D K7 was sooo close with 1920 x1080 HD. I think the K30D will be expected to have it now.... Hopefully they will include non JapAmerican frame rates! 25fps please. Smaller body ( K-7 sized hopefully)? Bigger sensor? Do we really need it? 100% viewfinder, with SPLIT PRISM as an optional OEM screen!!!! Live histogram in VF etc... WATERPROOF Limiteds! Or do we need a K30D and just move on to the K6 or is it K8 Sooo easy to be blase about new things isn't it. In contrast I think the K7 is a worthy successor to the past high end Pentax camera's...the K10D (I have one) and the K20D. Metal body, 1/8000th of a second shutter more seals, intro of more weather resistant lenses, movie capability , as one review says quite a competitor for the Nikon D300....the list goes on. I liked the K20D but I didn't think it offered enough difference to trade in my K10D...the K7....I'd love to have one. At this point, until I see actual photographic results and an in depth test of a regular production model, not just pre-productions...it's too early to say whether the K7 gets a Gold Star. But so far all I've read...makes me feel very optimistic about this new machine. I think Pentax may have scored a hat trick (hockey analogy for hitting one out of the park for the non Canadians out there) with the K7....but let's wait and see...after all the reviews and tests are in.

05-20-2009, 08:55 AM	#5
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Torphoto the K30D should be below the K7 so don't expect it to be better It should be evident by now that thee won't be any K30d. The next camera will probably be somewhere between the K-m and the K-7. Probably better specs than K20d, but with controls more like the K200d. E.g. scene modes.

05-20-2009, 08:55 AM	#6
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,349	Originally posted by nosnoop I don't think there will be a K30D. They are going to use a new numbering system. And the next camera would probably be a "dumbed down" K-7 to replace K200D; but as with K20D, not a direct replacement model. I agree...that makes sense...the K7 is the heir to the top line Pentax cameras...first the K10D, then the K20D and now the K7. I do believe as you say the next camera will replace the K200D. I would say within a few months. I think by October, in time for Xmas is my guess.

05-20-2009, 08:57 AM	#7
mwcfire Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: OKC Photos: Gallery Posts: 186	I plan on purchasing the K7. I have a K10 and the K20 just didn't have enough features to make me want one. The K7 does!

05-20-2009, 09:01 AM	#8
Hannican Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 485	I'm in the same boat- I love my K10D, but the K20 just didn't bring it like it would have had to for me to drop that kind of cash... I'd rather load up on lenses (which I did). The K7, however... now that's another story...

05-20-2009, 09:06 AM	#9
Cosmo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	No video, the K7 can have the video feature.

05-20-2009, 09:13 AM	#10
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	I hope they keep this sensor and keep refining it to evolve the basic features, get it from 4 channel readout to 6channel or even 8channel, increase video resolution and fps, work on the dr and noise

05-20-2009, 10:03 AM	#12
Mark D Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hertfordshire UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 44 Original Poster	Well I guess the K7 really has put the cat amongst the pigeons. It is better than the K20 so if the autumn camera is a K30 D how do they pitch it. The only thing I can see them doing to differentiate it from the K7 is keeping it a stills only platform, otherwise it encroaches on K7 sales. I think the next camera will be aimed at the k300 sector. A slightly improved K20 in a K200 sized body. Unless the real surprise is that the K7 is the K200 replacement and the K30D really blows everything else out of the water!! Don’t worry, I’ll wake up in a minute, just let me enjoy the dream for a little longer………

05-20-2009, 11:47 AM	#13
PNTXFTW12 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vaughan, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 269	i really hope the next camera has 1080p recording

05-20-2009, 01:53 PM	#14
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978	Originally posted by mwcfire I plan on purchasing the K7. I have a K10 and the K20 just didn't have enough features to make me want one. The K7 does! +1, me too...I will most definitely buy one.

05-20-2009, 01:59 PM	#15
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady People are saying 'No K30d,' but, I'm not so sure... the way it looks to me, now, the 'entry level' has gone down toward things like the K-M... and the K20d's still kicks butt in the price range: I bet they could split the difference between the K-7 and the K-M in price and features and come up with something very K20d-ish Well, the K20d will probably fill the gap between K-m and K-7 until the new camera arrives. The point is that the new camera will probably bear a family resemblance to the K-7 and not to the Kxxd- or Kxxxd- series, which both are history now. So I assume we'll see a camera which is similar to the K-7, but specced more like the K20d. And I assume they'll add scene modes etc. like the K200d has - even the 50d has scene modes!