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05-22-2009, 11:34 PM   #16
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I don't think an elephant could produce as much crap as that article contains.

yes, we are living in hard times, but I don't think pentax is going to disappear any time soon. It would be an extremely unwise decision on hoya's part to get rid of Pentax.

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This guy is a brick short of a load. He says he was surprised at chrysler filing for bankruptcy.Where the hell has he been. Chrsler has pretty much been in trouble since the 80s.If he is referring to Pentax,it won't be the recession that puts them under.If Hoya doesnt put more money into marketing that would be their downfall.
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I don't think he has Pentax in mind..

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Some of the smaller camera companies may have to be acquired or merge to stay afloat. Luckily, most of the big names are tied to other electronics companies. If the camera brand lags behind, other products can help pull it safely over the finish line. There are however, companies with no big brother to lend a helping hand.
Pentax has been a front runner in this trend.

Odd thing is that I had strong indications that Sony found itsself lagging too much behind in DSLR's. They are making progress but too slow according to their desires so I had heard (inside!!) rumors about quitting the dslr's. Now that they suddenly released three models I put it down to wishfull thinking of those in Sony who were against moving into dslr's. OTOH, introducing 3 new bodies at the same time does seem a bit overreacting. May the the last stand..

I often think Oly is producing far too many new models in too short a time but apparantly they can survie that way... so far
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QuoteOriginally posted by janneman Quote
Odd thing is that I had strong indications that Sony found itsself lagging too much behind in DSLR's. They are making progress but too slow according to their desires so I had heard (inside!!) rumors about quitting the dslr's. Now that they suddenly released three models I put it down to wishfull thinking of those in Sony who were against moving into dslr's. OTOH, introducing 3 new bodies at the same time does seem a bit overreacting. May the the last stand..
I honestly don't know what Sony is doing. The three new bodies they just introduced are almost identical (not to mention EXTREMELY ugly, but that's a taste thing I guess) which seems like a dumb thing to do in the current market.

I found this thread on the Sony DPR boards and from their viewpoint, apparently some folks aren't too happy about what Sony is doing either: "Just what I was looking for Sony to replace the a700 with, about three months ago! The Pentax K7 shows how pathetically far behind in the DSLR game Sony is compared to the competition. It makes you wonder if anybody is even awake in the Sony DSLR design division."

The grass is always greener, you know. Sony folks go all "hey Sony is so far behind Pentax!" and here there is continous whining about how far behind Pentax is, and so it goes... Hasn't Pentax been going out of business since about 1990?

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Chrysler? Ummm.. Leica
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Sadly it is probably "HOLGA"...Boo Hoo Hoo
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it'd hard to make solid predictions in these times,however I really think Sony has bitten off more than they can chew. I knew someone who had insider information about Sony's DLSR business and she wasn't very impressed at what they were doing at all. She's quite surprised they have kept at it for as long as they have, so am I.

Shed a tear for minolta. who in their prime, manufactured SLR bodies for LEICA for their R2 to R5 models. And made a compelling addition to the DSLR race(I used a 7D and I LOVED the ergonomics the lenses were a bit average though. however, they did have some excellent primes) and pioneered in body IS.
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QuoteOriginally posted by janneman Quote
Pentax has been a front runner in this trend.

Odd thing is that I had strong indications that Sony found itsself lagging too much behind in DSLR's. They are making progress but too slow according to their desires so I had heard (inside!!) rumors about quitting the dslr's. Now that they suddenly released three models I put it down to wishfull thinking of those in Sony who were against moving into dslr's. OTOH, introducing 3 new bodies at the same time does seem a bit overreacting. May the the last stand..

I often think Oly is producing far too many new models in too short a time but apparantly they can survie that way... so far
Well, in both Sony and Oly's case the strategy of releasing numerous new bodies is actually pretty low-cost and produces more sales because customers need to have the latest and greatest. In Oly's case, look at the E-400, E-410, E-420, and E-450... almost all components are completely the same, the body only made a single minor change between the E-410 and E-420, most of the real changes have been to the sensor and the processing/software. Components are also largely shared with the E-5x0 series, further cutting costs. Not to mention they're really nice little cameras.

Sony's new cameras are really just a change of the bodies and the processors... the sensors and feature sets are still basically the same. If anything they're a little dumbed-down to appeal more to the p+s upgrader crowd. I think that's a mistake, as that might lose them a lot of sales from alpha-mount enthusiasts to whom 14 megapixels in APS-C doesn't sound that bad (though that sensor seems reminiscent of a p+s in performance itself). But really, if Sony "cuts" the camera division, I don't think it'll be a complete move, I think they'll keep releasing the FF cameras as a sort of brand-recognition thing. I mean, as far as FF cameras go, the A900 has been a hit, especially in terms of recognition if not so much in sales. Then after the economy improves, they'd have something to build on to bring customers back into the fold.

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If I had to bet, I'd go for Kodak.

I really don't see what the purpose of that company is at the mo'.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Adrian Owerko Quote
Are We About to Say Goodbye to a Well-known Camera Company? Photofocus

I don't think this guy had the guts to say the P word... lol (: send this guy a K-7 brochure

This guy misses a point. Chrysler was not the only basket case. GM is effectively in government controlled bankruptcy and several of the worlds largest banks have already collapsed and he thinks Canon is OK because its "big".

Big is not always best. Look at Sony. Big makes you inflexible and arrogant. Look at IBM. Also, Canon makes all its money from office and consumer electronics - both badly hit in most recessions - so they are no more recession proof than anyone else. Perhaps thats why they are moving their European HQ to the UK to consolidate the whole operation in one place, make several hundred people redundant and benefit from low sterling prices (and wages).

I dont know about Oly but Sony seem to be the ones acting "desperate" right now (3 weak restyling jobs on 3 pretty so-so cameras?). They are in serious trouble.
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If anyone would like to annoy the guys from that blog

I propose a turd in the mail. Or at least some verbal abuse

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QuoteOriginally posted by er1kksen Quote
This is a pretty sad joke. ....................................
What's left? Kodak? I'm not aware of anyone still using their sensors except for certain medium format back producers, ..................
I believe the Leica M8 uses a Kodak sensor produced especially for them.

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Here's what I read:

"I gotta write something for this blog cuz I've got a D3 (see this great pic?) but I really want the D3X - but I can't think of a single worthwhile topic. Hmm, Chicken Little is a great story - but I can't really name names; that would be libelous. But hey, I can talk circles for 500 words and piggy back that big ole fear machine. Yeah, there's my paycheck."
THE WINNER! The article was a classic case of diarrhea of the keyboard.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Graham67 Quote
If I had to bet, I'd go for Kodak.

I really don't see what the purpose of that company is at the mo'.

Well after very extensive research, i am at the conclusion

IT WONT BE VIAGRA
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QuoteOriginally posted by Graham67 Quote
If I had to bet, I'd go for Kodak.

I really don't see what the purpose of that company is at the mo'.

Well after very extensive research, i am at the conclusion

IT WONT BE VIAGRA
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Why are we so sensitive about the article? Are there any hints that he is talking about Pentax...?
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