Breaking News: K-7 On Sales in Hong Kong!!!

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by ogl

You should get your K-7 on Saturday...

Hopefully, provided that my dealer has the goods and I'm first enough in the queue!

Btw, I shall ask my dealer to confirm CDAF is available under the video mode before I act! The K-7 shouldn't lack this basic feature and be worse than the 500D, should it? :-)

and · 06-12-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Btw, I shall ask my dealer to confirm CDAF is available under the video mode before I act! The K-7 shouldn't lack this basic feature and be worse than the 500D, should it? :-)

I bet it wont have it. I dont think it would be very useful if it did, the hunting of the caf would just ruin the video and is way to slow for moving objects.

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Vaikis_

LOL it's pre-production still and no sales in HK

Pre-production doesn't have goods box and full packing!

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by and

I bet it wont have it. I dont think it would be very useful if it did, the hunting of the caf would just ruin the video and is way to slow for moving objects.

So, what's the problem to have a *function*?? If you don't push the "AF" button, this function will NOT be *activated*!

and · 06-12-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

So, what's the problem to have a *function*?? If you don't push the "AF" button, this function will NOT be *activated*!

I agree with that. its better to have the choice. but after thinking about it I dont really mind that it isnt there is what I am saying. hardly a big loss.

actually they could have made it a custom function, having it there by default i think would have done more harm than good, in reviews.

Vaikis_ · 06-12-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Pre-production doesn't have goods box and full packing!

are you sure ?

So pro-production comes wraped in paper ?

krypticide · 06-12-2009, 10:27 AM

But maybe by having the function, but with poor functionality, the reviewers will jump all over it. Example:

"K-7 does offer AF in video mode, but it is extremely slow and poorly implemented. The competition has better AF in video."

vs.

"K-7, unfortunately, does not offer AF in video mode."

deejjjaaaa · 06-12-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Hannican

Is this really the forum for self-promotion?

Why doesn't B&H and other retailers start making threads like this with links to their own sites? How much of this is going to be allowed before someone finally puts their foot down and stops allowing this kind of traffic farming?

I rarely even visit the News and Rumors section anymore because every other post (and EVERY thread) is full of Rice High's link spamming.

as far as I know the owner(s) of the forum has no issues w/ RH posting links to his postings there (in his blog)... so shut up or take if off line using PM to the owner.

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by krypticide

But maybe by having the function, but with poor functionality, the reviewers will jump all over it. Example:

"K-7 does offer AF in video mode, but it is extremely slow and poorly implemented. The competition has better AF in video."

vs.

"K-7, unfortunately, does not offer AF in video mode."

I prefer the former!

What cons do we have than there is no offer and the lack of functions? Remember "least is better than none"! (Bugs would be another concern)

ProppaT · 06-12-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by and

I agree with that. its better to have the choice. but after thinking about it I dont really mind that it isnt there is what I am saying. hardly a big loss.

actually they could have made it a custom function, having it there by default i think would have done more harm than good, in reviews.

You're right, although I'm even a little sketchy about making it a custom mode. I think its always better to leave a feature out rather than put in a half-assed version of it, unless it's truly just a marketing buzzword that no one actually cares about. That's marketing 101. It's just going to give reviewers and end users something to latch onto with their gripes. Before you know it, everyone is saying "Pentax's video sucks." It's a dangerous, slippery slope. In other words, it looks a lot better showing up to the party late than it does getting there early with your pants down.

Possibly there will be a way to deepen the depth of field for those wanting to do home videos. Anyone who wants to use it for amateur cinematography will honestly want to focus by hand anyway. Very rarely does anyone doing cinematography use auto focus.

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by deejjjaaaa

as far as I know the owner(s) of the forum has no issues w/ RH posting links to his postings there (in his blog)... so shut up or take if off line using PM to the owner.

Thanks and I just opted to ignore those people at all times which I think is the best way to deal with them.

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by ProppaT

Possibly there will be a way to deepen the depth of field for those wanting to do home videos. Anyone who wants to use it for amateur cinematography will honestly want to focus by hand anyway. Very rarely does anyone doing cinematography use auto focus.

Yes, but the K-7 is not a professional cinematography camera! It is still a consumer product afterall!

And bear in mind that cinematography cameras have OVF and those electronic professional video cameras for TV production are still with EVF!

and · 06-12-2009, 10:37 AM

back to topic, have we got any confirmation that the guy got a real production v1.0 camera and not a pre production one?

ShadZee · 06-12-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by pop4

Do what I do and put him on your ignore list. I don't see his links or the contents of his posts anymore, unless someone quotes him

Only the old timers understand

RiceHigh · 06-12-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by and

back to topic, have we got any confirmation that the guy got a real production v1.0 camera and not a pre production one?

The OP wrote in the subject line that it is a production body. Quoted: "Rush to (buy).."

06-12-2009, 09:33 AM	#18
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Production Unit! Originally posted by Vaikis_ LOL it's pre-production still and no sales in HK Pre-production doesn't have goods box and full packing!

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06-12-2009, 09:22 AM	#16
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl You should get your K-7 on Saturday... Hopefully, provided that my dealer has the goods and I'm first enough in the queue! Btw, I shall ask my dealer to confirm CDAF is available under the video mode before I act! The K-7 shouldn't lack this basic feature and be worse than the 500D, should it? :-)

06-12-2009, 09:27 AM	#17
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by RiceHigh Btw, I shall ask my dealer to confirm CDAF is available under the video mode before I act! The K-7 shouldn't lack this basic feature and be worse than the 500D, should it? :-) I bet it wont have it. I dont think it would be very useful if it did, the hunting of the caf would just ruin the video and is way to slow for moving objects.

06-12-2009, 09:34 AM	#19
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by and I bet it wont have it. I dont think it would be very useful if it did, the hunting of the caf would just ruin the video and is way to slow for moving objects. So, what's the problem to have a function?? If you don't push the "AF" button, this function will NOT be activated!

06-12-2009, 10:03 AM	#20
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by RiceHigh So, what's the problem to have a function?? If you don't push the "AF" button, this function will NOT be activated! I agree with that. its better to have the choice. but after thinking about it I dont really mind that it isnt there is what I am saying. hardly a big loss. actually they could have made it a custom function, having it there by default i think would have done more harm than good, in reviews.

06-12-2009, 10:10 AM	#21
Vaikis_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213	Originally posted by RiceHigh Pre-production doesn't have goods box and full packing! are you sure ? So pro-production comes wraped in paper ?

06-12-2009, 10:27 AM	#22
krypticide Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,079	But maybe by having the function, but with poor functionality, the reviewers will jump all over it. Example: "K-7 does offer AF in video mode, but it is extremely slow and poorly implemented. The competition has better AF in video." vs. "K-7, unfortunately, does not offer AF in video mode."

06-12-2009, 10:27 AM	#23
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by Hannican Is this really the forum for self-promotion? Why doesn't B&H and other retailers start making threads like this with links to their own sites? How much of this is going to be allowed before someone finally puts their foot down and stops allowing this kind of traffic farming? I rarely even visit the News and Rumors section anymore because every other post (and EVERY thread) is full of Rice High's link spamming. as far as I know the owner(s) of the forum has no issues w/ RH posting links to his postings there (in his blog)... so shut up or take if off line using PM to the owner.

06-12-2009, 10:30 AM	#24
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by krypticide But maybe by having the function, but with poor functionality, the reviewers will jump all over it. Example: "K-7 does offer AF in video mode, but it is extremely slow and poorly implemented. The competition has better AF in video." vs. "K-7, unfortunately, does not offer AF in video mode." I prefer the former! What cons do we have than there is no offer and the lack of functions? Remember "least is better than none"! (Bugs would be another concern)

06-12-2009, 10:31 AM	#25
ProppaT Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winter Park, Florida Posts: 59	Originally posted by and I agree with that. its better to have the choice. but after thinking about it I dont really mind that it isnt there is what I am saying. hardly a big loss. actually they could have made it a custom function, having it there by default i think would have done more harm than good, in reviews. You're right, although I'm even a little sketchy about making it a custom mode. I think its always better to leave a feature out rather than put in a half-assed version of it, unless it's truly just a marketing buzzword that no one actually cares about. That's marketing 101. It's just going to give reviewers and end users something to latch onto with their gripes. Before you know it, everyone is saying "Pentax's video sucks." It's a dangerous, slippery slope. In other words, it looks a lot better showing up to the party late than it does getting there early with your pants down. Possibly there will be a way to deepen the depth of field for those wanting to do home videos. Anyone who wants to use it for amateur cinematography will honestly want to focus by hand anyway. Very rarely does anyone doing cinematography use auto focus.

06-12-2009, 10:32 AM	#26
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by deejjjaaaa as far as I know the owner(s) of the forum has no issues w/ RH posting links to his postings there (in his blog)... so shut up or take if off line using PM to the owner. Thanks and I just opted to ignore those people at all times which I think is the best way to deal with them.

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06-12-2009, 10:36 AM	#27
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by ProppaT Possibly there will be a way to deepen the depth of field for those wanting to do home videos. Anyone who wants to use it for amateur cinematography will honestly want to focus by hand anyway. Very rarely does anyone doing cinematography use auto focus. Yes, but the K-7 is not a professional cinematography camera! It is still a consumer product afterall! And bear in mind that cinematography cameras have OVF and those electronic professional video cameras for TV production are still with EVF!

06-12-2009, 10:37 AM	#28
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	back to topic, have we got any confirmation that the guy got a real production v1.0 camera and not a pre production one?

06-12-2009, 10:39 AM	#29
ShadZee Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 115	Originally posted by pop4 Do what I do and put him on your ignore list. I don't see his links or the contents of his posts anymore, unless someone quotes him Only the old timers understand

06-12-2009, 10:46 AM	#30
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by and back to topic, have we got any confirmation that the guy got a real production v1.0 camera and not a pre production one? The OP wrote in the subject line that it is a production body. Quoted: "Rush to (buy).."