Originally posted by Dr_who Well I'm not a Pentax dealer so I don't know how much store are marketing up prices for profit, but to assume NO one is buying is over exaggerated I think. I don't think they will have any problems selling and making money off new body such as the K7 cause it sound slike alot of people have pre-orders on one.
did i say "NO one"? "not selling" is short for "not selling enough to matter", as in, to make _money_
Quote: As for the glass are you saying Pentax glass isn't worth the price that its at now, or that you were used to it being at a lower price and regret not buying it while it was cheaper?
that is precisely what i am saying, i am sorry, it is not worth the current (double) price.
let's see, a random selection of lenses, and some current prices
but before, please note: i expect the price of my non-stabilized lens to be at least in the range of the canon (for instance) non-stabilized lens, not in the range of the is one, this is what i was "promised" when i chose to buy into a body-stabilized system, right?
da* 16-50/2.8 20.695,
da* 50-135/2.8 22.969,
da* 60-250/4 29.925
dfa 100 macro 15.530
50/1.4 12 790
12-24/4 28 690
canon:
100 macro 13.375
70-200/4 L 16.087 (almost half of 60-250, non-is)
70-200/4 L(IS) 29.482
17-55//2.8 (IS) 23.504
50/1.4 9.213
50/1.8 2.926 (note, this used to not matter, the pentax 50/1.4
was supposed to be almost as cheap, it never was here, but in
the us at least it was)
10-22/some-crap 20.310 (people say it's not the greatest, don't know..)
nikon:
50/1.4 7.990 (10 590 for the "G", which is in the class with our 55sdm, right?)
105/2.8 micro vr 20.823
17-55/2.8 dx blah 33.686 (ouch)
70-200/2.8 VR (can't find a normal one) 52.523
12-24/4 25.531 (but i hear it's "class leading")
sony (hey, why the hell not?)
50/1.4 11 790
70-200/2.8 59 990
100/2.8 macro 23 690
16-80 3.5-4.5 23 190
sorry, i am lost, the most confusing lineup i have ever seen.
edit: updated with tamron prices, for completeness (following falk's theory)
tamron (kmount)
90 macro 12 190
10-24/some-crap 12 590
17-50/2.8 11 390
70-200/2.8 20 690
canon mount
12 190
12 590
11 390
20 690
(identical)
so, pentax vs canon.. hmm, anybody selling a 40d? seriously, the only slight edge is on the 16-50/2.8, and i can "almost" buy it from tokina for cheaper (not sealed and so on, but neither is the 40d
), but other than that... ouch, what a beating.
pentax vs nikon: okay, now i know why most nikon shooters i see shoot third party or old glass, their premium glass is not cheap. otoh, the cheap crap (not shown here) is cheaper than most (is pentax dreaming the same?). however it's still better in some cases (considerably better), like the wide end, the fast 50's, and a few others.
i won't comment on sony, maybe i just didn't find a proper dealer or something. my head spins already. they seem well covered on the tele side, though (but not cheap)
i should look at oly too, but i've had enough (and i might be in danger to go oly if i do..)
so am i saying pentax shouldn't be twice as expensive as canon? hell yeah. i have in-body is? great, but i payed for it (in some form or another), and i made this choice knowing i will save money after, so i expect to be able to reasonably compare prices to the non-is versions of canikon (you can say it's not fair, it is: if you turn in-body stabilization into a "feature" that i have to pay on my body, after which i pay is-lens prices for each lens, instead of _choosing_ if i want to pay it for each lens, or want to pay _half_ the price and only get the excellent optics, i'll take the in-lens system 8 out of 10).