Originally posted by Gruoso Samsung jumps over APS-C dslr and go for a APS-C NX with EVF and a new mount
Samsung is working on FF and new lenses for FF and people keep thinking that they would release such a camera on K-mount. For what, to let Pentax sell the lenses?. It doesnt make sense to me. If Samsung is thinking on FF I would imagine that they will be thinking on a different mount so they can also squeeze the money coming from lenses.
That's possibility number one. They'd have to secure a contract from someone else to produce the lenses, though, even if they are able to make their own designs. Cosina, Tamron, and Sigma may be up to the task. Rebadging existing lens designs from the aforementioned could end up much cheaper, though, and it may only need a change in the rear end to accommodate a new mount.
If Samsung does 24x36, their motivation to make another mount or not would probably depend on how many rebadged lenses of theirs have they sold already and how large their user base is in that segment. I would think Samsung is very much profitable in their home market of Korea, but I don't know Samsung DSLRs to be popular elsewhere. If they think they can deal with the backlash from existing customers, well, making a new mount would probably be more profitable for them in the long run and may be their choice.
Originally posted by GLXLR Hah hah. Full frame...
Who would buy a Samsung FF other than Pentax users? It would instantly kill 1/3-1/4 of the Pentax community.
If their entrant to the 24x36 DSLR space is priced right (probably have to undercut Canon, Nikon, and Sony in price) and has competitive features, I'm sure it would move enough units to be profitable, and could be considered by people not fully-entrenched with their system of choice.
Originally posted by GLXLR Sony is doing quite good, but about 90% of their profits come from complete noobs. As in soccer moms that bought the twin or single kit and won't EVER upgrade. I still remember reading a review on Amazon on the A330. Cracked me up.
Yeah, that's probably why Sony chose to refresh their entry-level line earlier than the A700. I suspect those units won't sell as much, though, seeing how the video-enabled Rebels and D5000 would be more alluring to buyers, even if AF is non-existent with video capture.
The GH1 could have also muscled in on the action, but for that to happen, the price should be competitive with the T1i and D5000, and I doubt people would see the extra $700 to be worth it to have a lens with bigger zoom range and AF in video mode. I mean, it may really be worth the extra $700, but just looking at hard prices, going above that $1000 (psychological?) barrier may possibly turn a lot of potential customers away.
Originally posted by janneman Beware beware, I have said that a few times already and I keep geting bashed for it, even by true Pentaxians, just because they own some Sony apliances they feel they need to support them a bit.
But my source works at Sony Netherlands and while not in any way working in the photography deparment, they do occasionally share the same rooms for coffee breaks.
Sure they sell, sure they sell rather well, but they are nowhere near where they wanted to be by now. Some even thought they could be number two by now!!!
I think it's Sony themselves who thought they'd be able to get to number 2 as of this moment. I really don't think it's that easy to dislodge either Canon or Nikon, even if Sony is as big a company as either of the two. It just takes time to do that. I wonder how impatient or patient Sony is to get to number two, but it will never happen overnight.
Say what you will about their 3-model barrage of the entry-level sector the last time around, but I'm sure as hell that's the reason why they sat at number three (and leap-frogged Olympus and Pentax in the process) by the end of last year.
Originally posted by RMabo For a 24x36 camera with mirror and optical viewfinder, it is much cheaper for Samsung to simply use the K-mount that they already have a license for. Such a camera would be so expensive that the users won't have money for the lenses, and they are lot of K-mount lenses available 2nd hand. It makes sense for Samsung to continue with K-mount for the 24x36, unless the new 24x36 is also a mirrorless camera with only electronic viewfinder. In this case, they can use a new enlarged version of their micro mount.
I have no hard facts about how much licensing costs, but I do think Samsung has the money to throw at a new mount should they decide to do that. I don't know if they'll do that, though, if they're confident enough to go at it on their own, if the backlash from their existing customers would be huge, stuff like that.
Your idea of a mirrorless 24x36 camera sounds interesting, though.