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07-14-2009, 08:02 PM   #1
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Pentax DA 50-300mm WR?

Anyone hear anything about this lens being in the works or is that wishfull thinking for Pentax to be that forward thinking? Maybe it's my OCD, but it would make sense for me to have a clear cut system of lenses depending on your tastes.

I mean the way it stands now, you have the DA* line, that system makes sense to me. You got the Limited line, that system makes 'limited' sense to me, they really need to go past the 70/77mm range, a 100mm and a 135mm is really needed ASAP IMO.

But when you go to the regular DA line, it all gets rather blurry. You have the 16-45mm f/4 which I guess you could pair up with the 55-300mm, you have the reg 18-55 to go with the reg 50-200mm, then you have the WR versions of those lenses also, then you have the 17-70mm which sports SDM all by its lonesome... then there are the three super-wides, 10-17mm FE, 12-24mm and the 14mm prime and the super zoom. It kinda makes sense, but then it kinda doesn't.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Buddha Jones Quote
Anyone hear anything about this lens being in the works or is that wishfull thinking for Pentax to be that forward thinking? Maybe it's my OCD, but it would make sense for me to have a clear cut system of lenses depending on your tastes.

I mean the way it stands now, you have the DA* line, that system makes sense to me. You got the Limited line, that system makes 'limited' sense to me, they really need to go past the 70/77mm range, a 100mm and a 135mm is really needed ASAP IMO.

But when you go to the regular DA line, it all gets rather blurry. You have the 16-45mm f/4 which I guess you could pair up with the 55-300mm, you have the reg 18-55 to go with the reg 50-200mm, then you have the WR versions of those lenses also, then you have the 17-70mm which sports SDM all by its lonesome... then there are the three super-wides, 10-17mm FE, 12-24mm and the 14mm prime and the super zoom. It kinda makes sense, but then it kinda doesn't.
Pentax makes a lot of standard zooms. 55-300mm seems very reasonable and would compliment the new 18-55mm WR, but the 50-200mm is reserved for the budget tight(er) people. I guess this is what CaNikons mean when there are "holes" in the Pentax lens line up.
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There used to be holes in the Pentax line up. Now there is only the supertelephoto hole and the cheap normal prime hole (since the fa 35 seems to discontinued). Speaking of holes, when are Canikon going to fill the stabilised fast prime hole?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Buddha Jones Quote
Anyone hear anything about this lens being in the works or is that wishfull thinking for Pentax to be that forward thinking? .

I suspect that Pentax will make all their lenses weather sealed with time. Also the bodies. I guess that the K-m will get a makeover this year adding weather seals.
I might be totally wrong though...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
I suspect that Pentax will make all their lenses weather sealed with time. Also the bodies. I guess that the K-m will get a makeover this year adding weather seals.
I might be totally wrong though...
Who knows. Only Hoya/Pentax does
But I highly doubt it. It might make the lenses for entry-level too expensive.
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Whilst at the May Henry's camera show in Toronto (when we got to take a look at the K7 for the first time), the Pentax Canada folk said there would be more waterproofed lenses. When asked which ones he explicitly mentioned the 55-300mm as being a logical choice.
I think Yes.
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QuoteOriginally posted by GLXLR Quote
Pentax makes a lot of standard zooms. 55-300mm seems very reasonable and would compliment the new 18-55mm WR, but the 50-200mm is reserved for the budget tight(er) people. I guess this is what CaNikons mean when there are "holes" in the Pentax lens line up.
And they'd be right. Getting anything over 300mm which would be suitable for birding or wildlife photography (silent, IS (which I guess we don't have to worry about)) was just not there.
I can't understand why we can't have the equivalent of the excellent 75-300mm canon lenses (f4-5.6), with weathersealing and sdm. For a mid-range cost.
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Maybe they should come out with a 28-300mm WR lens.
YouTube - Pentax K-7 with 28-300mm Tamron in 1536x1024 *** mode


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Earlier this year, Pentax made official statements that there would be a new lens serie with same optical design as existing lenses but with other changes. Now it is clear that the change means weather sealing. The 18-55 WR and 55-200 WR has same optics as non-WR versions.

I have my doubt about a new lens serie consisting of only two lenses...
Pentax are working on more weather sealed lenses, but don't expect news on this during this summer. I expect things will be clearer later this year when Pentax releases the "junior" version of the K-7, I expect them to reveal some more WR-lenses at the same event.

55-300 is a logical choice for the next WR lens.
I also expect the 17-70 and 12-24 to come in WR versions.
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If all of the bodies from here on out are going to be WR, I guess it would only make sense for the lenses to follow suit. And since I sold my DA*300 for lack of use/need either the low cost DA55-300mm would be a good option or the DA*60-250mm for its speed.
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I would hope for some weather sealed DA ltd primes.

Beyond that, 55-300 makes sense as does perhaps 18-250.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Buddha Jones Quote
If all of the bodies from here on out are going to be WR, I guess it would only make sense for the lenses to follow suit. And since I sold my DA*300 for lack of use/need either the low cost DA55-300mm would be a good option or the DA*60-250mm for its speed.
Agreed!! I only hope they would make an f2.8 version of the DA Star 60-250 and is price competitive with the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM II Macro...I can buy the latter for about $720 new without, of course, WR but $1200 for the Pentax f4 version, well, the WR and the extra 50mm on the long end are simply not worth the premium. Get us that lens at $750 street price and an f2.8 version for about $900-$950 street price and we can talk.
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QuoteOriginally posted by brecklundin Quote
Agreed!! I only hope they would make an f2.8 version of the DA Star 60-250 and is price competitive with the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM II Macro...I can buy the latter for about $720 new without, of course, WR but $1200 for the Pentax f4 version, well, the WR and the extra 50mm on the long end are simply not worth the premium. Get us that lens at $750 street price and an f2.8 version for about $900-$950 street price and we can talk.


Dream on. There's no way anyone will give you a 60-250/2.8 for $900. Such a least would cost at least twice as much as an 80-200/2.8 and would weight around 2kg if it was made of lightweight material!
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Agreed!! I only hope they would make an f2.8 version of the DA Star 60-250 and is price competitive with the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM II Macro...I can buy the latter for about $720 new without, of course, WR but $1200 for the Pentax f4 version, well, the WR and the extra 50mm on the long end are simply not worth the premium. Get us that lens at $750 street price and an f2.8 version for about $900-$950 street price and we can talk.
Well, truth be told, I'd be more inclined to buy the DA* if it were under a grand, the IQ of it compared to the Tammy don't really compare IMO. That is where the real premium come in.
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Well, truth be told, I'd be more inclined to buy the DA* if it were under a grand, the IQ of it compared to the Tammy don't really compare IMO. That is where the real premium come in.
very good point...it comes to IQ and speed over other factors for me. Hoooowever, there is one seller, one of the Canookian sellers I think, on eBay selling the DA* 60-250 for something like $880 (might even have a best offer too). Yet even with the BING cashback (I think it applies for Canadian sellers on the IS eBay site??) it brings the price to a very reasonable $809 with free shipping. I have been tempted but I really want the extra stop over the sealing, well, fine!...I want both... I'll be honest is was in my quest to upgrade my glass in this exact range which led me to the K7 and eventually to eschew Canon and go all-in with Pentax. I saw no reason to pay a $1000 premium to Canon for an f2.8 70-200mm lens with IS when going Pentax I could use the Sigma model mk II version for $719 shipped and with a 4yr warranty with IQ extremely close to the Canon L. But now folks here have me spying the freaking Tammy....d'oh!!! hehehehe...I guess I have a huge LBA issue...sigh...I must accept it as fact and learn to live with it I suppose.

For the most part people here really like the Tammy so I think I need to visit Samy's or Cameta in Santa Barbara and see of they have a Pentax mount copy I can get a feel for. I have been a Sigma fan for ages and never really used Tamron lenses, but have friends that shoot Canon who love them so, the points are piling up for the darned thing.

Having used a Canon EF-S 55-250 IS that even though it was variable aperture lens, was about as sharp a lens as one could ask, especially at about $250. I would say I reached for that lens more than anything except my Sigma 24-60...I definitely do not want a zoom with a zoom factor significantly higher than that or the DA*....but it is an excellent nature, hiking, zoo and even walk around lens range.

For how I want to use the lens, the faster the better as I live near the coast and want to spend more time shooting some of the truly scenic areas we have tucked away around here. But not at the expense of my gear and the constant exposure to the associated environment PLUS some days are just dreary yet very shot worthy...f4 will leave me to miss a fair number of shots...been there with other f4's and even at higher ISO to get close to a good shutter speed, it is just not quite enough...still learning though...

I love my DA* 50-135 though...I could care less that it's no focusing speed demon...it takes exceptional shots and does give me the sealing. But, I need more reach and see no reason to plunk down $600 on a Pentax TC, which, is that even sealed?

EDIT: Cripes I just realized when I posted about a seller with a 60-250mm for a BIN of $880 I was remembering a seller using the 50-135 and not the 60-250mm....d'oh!!! Egg splattered all over my face...what will I do... Funny things come to mind when heading off to sleep I guess. Again sorry for the inaccurate price info...still for $1200 the 60-250 f4 needs to perform at least as well as the Canon 70-200 f/4 IS, which is probably the sharpest zoom Canon makes though the f/2.8 version is an eyelash behind.

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