Pentax does one thing well, look at K-7
The days of them making a 110 system, a 135 system, a 645 system, a 6x7 system are history. Hoya owns Pentax and is in control of their destiny. Hoya has no history making multiple cameras in multiple formats. And with all the layoffs imposed upon Pentax by Hoya buy out Pentax likely has few employees with this history now too. Its a history, likely not to be repeated.
I'll guess Canon and Nikon will not announce their m4/3 concepts like samsung did with NX. One day the rumours with leaked images will hit and 2 to 4 weeks later the product with lenses will launch, lets say for a show like Photokina.
Personally I gave up on Pentax making a full frame and voted with my wallet. Having 5D and D700 inhand now I won't even consider Pentax full frame now unless its much cheaper than current market prices. That of course doesn't mean the other grey haired pentaxians still faithfully waiting and waiting would pass on a Full frame K Mount at any price point.
Life is short, Pentaxians know if they want a full frame platform they may wait a lifetime for Pentax to provide it. Or they shop elsewhere & buy it. Done, just like that.
Anyways Pentax said no full frame and it doesn't exist. Pentax said 645D and it too doesn't exist. Full Frame K I know won't ever happen and the other one is roadmapped so don't shop elsewhere else and wait and wait and hang around and wait some more cause one day it will happen cause the roadmap says so.
Pentax does one thing really well thesedays:
K-7
As far as poor full frame sales percentages, how many full frames does one need? Once you bought one, do you need two? Once you bought two do you need three? Once you bought three, like I have, I really can't see the need for a forth one.
These full frames last a few years so if you add the numbers up over time there are actually many people shooting full frame digital today. And they who own tend to say once you go full frame you don't use your crop format camera or buy another crop format camera again.
Me? I still shoot crop, via pentax K20D. What can I say. I LIKE IT !
But when it comes to brand new gears, I'm done buying new glass to support 1.5x aps-c & I won't buy a K-7 or likely another crop 1.5x crop camera from anyone ever again.
Originally posted by nosnoop I think they would be nuts not to do it.
I am 100% certain that all the big ones such as Canon, Nikon and Sony are inking one such system in their drawing board. It is just a matter of when.
Forum postings are deceiving. The economic reality is that FF sensors camera are still selling in minuscule numbers. In the August monthly sales chart in Japan, the top selling FF camera is the 5D II, and it was at #26 and #30 position, D700 at #56, and A900 at a distant #93 (embarrassingly, did not even make it to their Top 80 chart listing).
By comparison, EP1 is selling at #7 #10 #12 & #17 for their top 4 different lens/body configurations.
Basically, in a few years' time, the K-m market segment would disappear and completely taken over by EVIL cameras. EVIL cameras have lower production cost and should be more economic viable as lower end DSLRs are commoditized.
From my point of view, I would say Pentax would be insane to release a 24x36 body judging from the current FF sales figure.
To be honest, if that's what you desire, there is no point waiting any longer.
Last edited by Samsungian; 09-16-2009 at 11:02 AM.