K-x on photorumors

nosnoop · 09-16-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by F-Stop

and the biggest gripe of all vs the competition is a lack of a SDM kit lens.

I don't think you would wish that.
Having a SDM kit lens for an entry level camera would only mean one thing - that they have removed the in-camera screw drive motor. And many people do not want to see that happen.

ogl · 09-16-2009, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Maybe it shows you on the rear LCD?

yes, but it's not quick.

jct us101 · 09-16-2009, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by F-Stop

Sigh, I'd like to want to buy it but it's still lacking features for me to warrant an upgrade from my K100D. The colors are extremely tempting though... gah.

Missing:

- metering dial
- weather sealing
- larger viewfinder/magnification
- auto assist lamp
- top LCD
- no option of a battery grip
- rubber thumb grip

and the biggest gripe of all vs the competition is a lack of a SDM kit lens.

I've held a Rebel XS and Nikon D60/D3000 and they trump entry level Pentax bodies in pure pleasure to use, mostly due to the silent and fast AF and bright view screen... add that and AF lamp to the K-x and they'd have a killer. As for now I'd still be hesitant to say buy a Pentax, I don't want to feel handicapped the moment I pick it up. The rest of the features sounds stimulating.

The K-7 is still too expensive when a D300 can be had for less and outperforms it in many regards.

PENTAX is missing a mid-range to high-end body between the K-x and K-7. Canon has about a dozen models, Pentax can easily compete with 3 and add a 4th FF or matured/refined K-7 to round out the pack

K-x, K-x2, K-7, K-7P

I want to upgrade so bad but they aren't giving me a reason to within my budget. I guess I'll wait for the K-7 to drop in price.

Come on dude, the camera is only $650 with the kit lens. If Pentax added those things, then they'd have another K-7.

F-Stop · 09-16-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by nosnoop

I don't think you would wish that.
Having a SDM kit lens for an entry level camera would only mean one thing - that they have removed the in-camera screw drive motor. And many people do not want to see that happen.

I suppose you're right although there should be an option on the camera using one or the other, auto detect the lens mounted or user select like discussed on the forum before. We have to remember this is an entry level/beginner camera and most people won't be reading up to see if AF will continue to work with non-SDM lenses. If I was naive and oblivious, like most making a first step into DSLR's, as to why Camera X was noisy while Camera Y was silent I'd go with Camera Y. Instant and silent AF put a smile on my face even with the entry level Canon/Nikon so first impressions are important here.

F-Stop · 09-16-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

Come on dude, the camera is only $650 with the kit lens. If Pentax added those things, then they'd have another K-7.

I know jct, I was just hoping for something dab smack in the middle, 12MP with those extra features for $850-$1000 body would be nice.

The K-7 is still $1500 here in Canada.

ozlizard · 09-16-2009, 11:27 PM

Now that Pentax are using a Sony sensor and their relationship with Samsung doen't look too good, that clearly opens the door for more exciting revelations in the not too distant future....like a top of the range full frame DSLR!!! I'm excited!

jct us101 · 09-16-2009, 11:30 PM

There's no market for it. The cameras are exactly positioned where they should be, a middle one would ruin the entire market for Pentax, and it really doesn't need that right now.

AMBIVALENCE · 09-16-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by F-Stop

I know jct, I was just hoping for something dab smack in the middle, 12MP with those extra features for $850-$1000 body would be nice.

The K-7 is still $1500 here in Canada.

1599 to be precise @ henry's

F-Stop · 09-16-2009, 11:40 PM

Actually found it cheaper as always at adencamera.com for $1,379.99

That's a little better than it used to be. Henry's is always higher. Shopbot.ca or Photoprice.ca for any Canadians reading this looking for the best prices.

nosnoop · 09-16-2009, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by ogl

How to make quick select of invisible points?

Through rear view LCD:

Remember that K-x does not have superimposed LED overlay on the focusing screen.

ogl · 09-16-2009, 11:51 PM

Good camera for begginers. I will wait FF.

clawhammer · 09-17-2009, 01:40 AM

I know it's not as big as the k7, but wow did pentax blindside us with this one. there was only a blurry out-of-focus image for a day or two before this launched, and then a leak a few hours before release. perhaps they learned from the k20/k7 'unintentionally-viral' campaigns.

ozlizard · 09-17-2009, 01:55 AM

Amazing colour range (in Japan..so far) and a bold and fantastic marketing move by Pentax. I think they have "Applejacked" the competition by producing the "Ipod" of DSLR's with superior specs as well. I reckon they will sell like hotcakes.

Steelski · 09-17-2009, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by ozlizard

Amazing colour range (in Japan..so far) and a bold and fantastic marketing move by Pentax. I think they have "Applejacked" the competition by producing the "Ipod" of DSLR's with superior specs as well. I reckon they will sell like hotcakes.

Hot rice cakes.

Why no European/US customized service is beyond me

Are we really that uptight?

Edit:

Wow, my statement sounds racist...... Its not meant to be.

ozlizard · 09-17-2009, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Why no European/US customized service is beyond me

If they fly off the shelves in Japan they will have to open it uo to other countries. Although I did read on one of these threads that the idea was to select your colour options online, order your camera then Pentax will send the camera to the purchaser or the store so that system could be available anywhere. I think that having them on the shelves would be good marketing.

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09-16-2009, 11:04 PM	#91
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by F-Stop and the biggest gripe of all vs the competition is a lack of a SDM kit lens. I don't think you would wish that. Having a SDM kit lens for an entry level camera would only mean one thing - that they have removed the in-camera screw drive motor. And many people do not want to see that happen.

09-16-2009, 11:11 PM	#92
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Maybe it shows you on the rear LCD? yes, but it's not quick.

09-16-2009, 11:17 PM	#93
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Originally posted by F-Stop Sigh, I'd like to want to buy it but it's still lacking features for me to warrant an upgrade from my K100D. The colors are extremely tempting though... gah. Missing: - metering dial - weather sealing - larger viewfinder/magnification - auto assist lamp - top LCD - no option of a battery grip - rubber thumb grip and the biggest gripe of all vs the competition is a lack of a SDM kit lens. I've held a Rebel XS and Nikon D60/D3000 and they trump entry level Pentax bodies in pure pleasure to use, mostly due to the silent and fast AF and bright view screen... add that and AF lamp to the K-x and they'd have a killer. As for now I'd still be hesitant to say buy a Pentax, I don't want to feel handicapped the moment I pick it up. The rest of the features sounds stimulating. The K-7 is still too expensive when a D300 can be had for less and outperforms it in many regards. PENTAX is missing a mid-range to high-end body between the K-x and K-7. Canon has about a dozen models, Pentax can easily compete with 3 and add a 4th FF or matured/refined K-7 to round out the pack K-x, K-x2, K-7, K-7P I want to upgrade so bad but they aren't giving me a reason to within my budget. I guess I'll wait for the K-7 to drop in price. Come on dude, the camera is only $650 with the kit lens. If Pentax added those things, then they'd have another K-7.

09-16-2009, 11:21 PM	#94
F-Stop Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paradise, Newfoundland, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 303	Originally posted by nosnoop I don't think you would wish that. Having a SDM kit lens for an entry level camera would only mean one thing - that they have removed the in-camera screw drive motor. And many people do not want to see that happen. I suppose you're right although there should be an option on the camera using one or the other, auto detect the lens mounted or user select like discussed on the forum before. We have to remember this is an entry level/beginner camera and most people won't be reading up to see if AF will continue to work with non-SDM lenses. If I was naive and oblivious, like most making a first step into DSLR's, as to why Camera X was noisy while Camera Y was silent I'd go with Camera Y. Instant and silent AF put a smile on my face even with the entry level Canon/Nikon so first impressions are important here.

09-16-2009, 11:24 PM	#95
F-Stop Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paradise, Newfoundland, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 303	Originally posted by jct us101 Come on dude, the camera is only $650 with the kit lens. If Pentax added those things, then they'd have another K-7. I know jct, I was just hoping for something dab smack in the middle, 12MP with those extra features for $850-$1000 body would be nice. The K-7 is still $1500 here in Canada.

09-16-2009, 11:27 PM	#96
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Now that Pentax are using a Sony sensor and their relationship with Samsung doen't look too good, that clearly opens the door for more exciting revelations in the not too distant future....like a top of the range full frame DSLR!!! I'm excited!

09-16-2009, 11:30 PM	#97
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	There's no market for it. The cameras are exactly positioned where they should be, a middle one would ruin the entire market for Pentax, and it really doesn't need that right now.

09-16-2009, 11:31 PM	#98
AMBIVALENCE Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 149	Originally posted by F-Stop I know jct, I was just hoping for something dab smack in the middle, 12MP with those extra features for $850-$1000 body would be nice. The K-7 is still $1500 here in Canada. 1599 to be precise @ henry's

09-16-2009, 11:40 PM	#99
F-Stop Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paradise, Newfoundland, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 303	Actually found it cheaper as always at adencamera.com for $1,379.99 That's a little better than it used to be. Henry's is always higher. Shopbot.ca or Photoprice.ca for any Canadians reading this looking for the best prices.

09-16-2009, 11:44 PM	#100
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by ogl How to make quick select of invisible points? Through rear view LCD: Remember that K-x does not have superimposed LED overlay on the focusing screen.

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09-16-2009, 11:51 PM	#101
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Good camera for begginers. I will wait FF.

09-17-2009, 01:40 AM	#102
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	I know it's not as big as the k7, but wow did pentax blindside us with this one. there was only a blurry out-of-focus image for a day or two before this launched, and then a leak a few hours before release. perhaps they learned from the k20/k7 'unintentionally-viral' campaigns.

09-17-2009, 01:55 AM	#103
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Amazing colour range (in Japan..so far) and a bold and fantastic marketing move by Pentax. I think they have "Applejacked" the competition by producing the "Ipod" of DSLR's with superior specs as well. I reckon they will sell like hotcakes.

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Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470 Original Poster	Originally posted by ozlizard Amazing colour range (in Japan..so far) and a bold and fantastic marketing move by Pentax. I think they have "Applejacked" the competition by producing the "Ipod" of DSLR's with superior specs as well. I reckon they will sell like hotcakes. Hot rice cakes. Why no European/US customized service is beyond me Are we really that uptight? Edit: Wow, my statement sounds racist...... Its not meant to be.

09-17-2009, 02:29 AM	#105
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Quote: Why no European/US customized service is beyond me If they fly off the shelves in Japan they will have to open it uo to other countries. Although I did read on one of these threads that the idea was to select your colour options online, order your camera then Pentax will send the camera to the purchaser or the store so that system could be available anywhere. I think that having them on the shelves would be good marketing.