K-x, SMART IDEA!!!!

equinox · 09-17-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by nosnoop

K-x is already listed at Henry's - C$699 with kit lens.

nosnoop thanks for checking this. I lost my marbles last time with the Pentax Canada Sales department over the 60-250mm pricing as they could not give me 1 good reason not to buy in the USA.

I am going to pick this camera up as it will be a great small carry along camera while biking. I like Henrys, just not their Oakville location as the manager there does not like to help customers.

equinox · 09-17-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by cyg

... and 999 C$ for the 55-300 double kit. Ouch! This is $850 in the US!

If this price is confirmed (also for the other colours), this is pretty good for the single kit though.

Compared to the two kit lens Canon XS (18-55mm + 55-200mm@$899) it is close. I expected Pentax C to charge $1399 for the kit which would never sell.

aleonx3 · 09-17-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by equinox

nosnoop thanks for checking this. I lost my marbles last time with the Pentax Canada Sales department over the 60-250mm pricing as they could not give me 1 good reason not to buy in the USA.

I am going to pick this camera up as it will be a great small carry along camera while biking. I like Henrys, just not their Oakville location as the manager there does not like to help customers.

Maybe he just does not like Pentax customers....

WheresWaldo · 09-17-2009, 12:39 PM

Don't know if this was posted already, but Pentax posted a YouTube video

YouTube - Pentax K-x

cyg · 09-17-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by equinox

Compared to the two kit lens Canon XS (18-55mm + 55-200mm@$899) it is close.

I suppose the K-x double kit with 50-200 will be somewhere in the middle (850?), making it quite competitive with the other guys.

What is a bit annoying is that Pentax Canada seems quite happy with rounding up to the next $100 when converting their price from USD to CAD...

equinox · 09-17-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by cyg

I suppose the K-x double kit with 50-200 will be somewhere in the middle (850?), making it quite competitive with the other guys.

What is a bit annoying is that Pentax Canada seems quite happy with rounding up to the next $100 when converting their price from USD to CAD...

Ha I never thought of the Da 50-200mm.

Pentax C has embraced Capitalism except they crippled anyr sales outlets that may want to carry the product. I suspect the Kx will catch on at a big superchain though due to HD video.

ShutterLag · 09-17-2009, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by CaymanImaging

... Great marketing idea, but they also need to start filling the top tier of cameras and lenes for that growing segment and MORE importantly, keep us advanced people and pros happy.

+1 ... not that I'd consider myself very advanced yet. But I'm itching to try out some lenses, and nobody up here rents Pentax stuff. - I'm playing with the idea of renting out any lenses I may buy.

I think Pentax does a decent job attracting first time buyers with what they offer in their lower end stuff ... worked for me and my K200D (hey that rhymes

) ... but, Pentax as a company really needs to focus on keeping people in the brand ... and reducing the number of "jumping ship" posts in the marketplace section. Getting a higher percentage of the advanced users excited about pentax should make the stores take notice.

I was at a small seminar on the weekend - one person had a pentax ... me. And the instructor (who is also a salesman at a local camera shop) actually suggested that I switch brands due to the lack of support for pentax.

... If it wasn't for this general market view, I probably would have expanded my system by now. ... I love my camera, pentax has to get their product into the hands of more people, and then fight to keep them there. The K7 is a sweet camera ... but I think Pentax has to do more - maybe it's just marketing? Dunno. . ... Anyway, rambling now.

Last edited by ShutterLag; 09-17-2009 at 02:30 PM.

Ari · 09-17-2009, 03:00 PM

They NEED to re-hire a sales force! This is the perfect camera for people looking at a first dslr. If they can't get it on the shelves, though, why bother.........

aleonx3 · 09-17-2009, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by ShutterLag

+1 ... not that I'd consider myself very advanced yet. But I'm itching to try out some lenses, and nobody up here rents Pentax stuff. - I'm playing with the idea of renting out any lenses I may buy.

I think Pentax does a decent job attracting first time buyers with what they offer in their lower end stuff ... worked for me and my K200D (hey that rhymes

) ... but, Pentax as a company really needs to focus on keeping people in the brand ... and reducing the number of "jumping ship" posts in the marketplace section. Getting a higher percentage of the advanced users excited about pentax should make the stores take notice.

I was at a small seminar on the weekend - one person had a pentax ... me. And the instructor (who is also a salesman at a local camera shop) actually suggested that I switch brands due to the lack of support for pentax.

... If it wasn't for this general market view, I probably would have expanded my system by now. ... I love my camera, pentax has to get their product into the hands of more people, and then fight to keep them there. The K7 is a sweet camera ... but I think Pentax has to do more - maybe it's just marketing? Dunno. . ... Anyway, rambling now.

Any instructor trash talking about Pentax or any brand for that matter is nothing more than a sales person to me... they probably know more on certain brands, than others - you have to weed out the good from the bad.

I think Pentax's strategy is always like niche player - it is a brand name that you will want to get. It is kind of like, "that is neat where do you get it?".

cyg · 09-17-2009, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by equinox

Pentax C has embraced Capitalism except they crippled anyr sales outlets that may want to carry the product. I suspect the Kx will catch on at a big superchain though due to HD video.

It's not that bad in Canada. I find that most camera shop carry some Pentax gear, and even futureshop has some Pentax dslr from time to time.

I think you are right that these colourful cameras may be exactly what is needed to get some shelf space.

**Clarkey** · 09-17-2009, 06:16 PM

Ohh, shiny things....... Yeah, pretty good comeback at the entry level.

The sensor and the battery life look phenomenal - up to 1900 shots listed with Lithiums.....

**Aristophanes** · 09-17-2009, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by cyg

I suppose the K-x double kit with 50-200 will be somewhere in the middle (850?), making it quite competitive with the other guys.

Don't forget that the new Pentax "L" lenses that came out with the K-x appear to be "cheapened" (for lack of a better word) to keep the price down. They have plastic mounts, not metal. So "L" likely stands for lightweight. They come with no hood, and no quick--shift focussing.

Whether they are optically equivalent is another issue.

bladerunner0427 · 09-17-2009, 07:19 PM

I didn't expect this from Pentax! Great move in my opinion. These color choices should attract young and newbie photogs to Pentax. Man, I'm loving that red K-x. Too bad I already have the white K-m. I'd like to see some sample images from this cmos sensor.

deadwolfbones · 09-17-2009, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Don't forget that the new Pentax "L" lenses that came out with the K-x appear to be "cheapened" (for lack of a better word) to keep the price down. They have plastic mounts, not metal. So "L" likely stands for lightweight. They come with no hood, and no quick--shift focussing.

Whether they are optically equivalent is another issue.

They came out with the K-m a year ago, and yes, the plastic mount is to keep weight and price down. Optically, however, they're identical.

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09-17-2009, 11:36 AM	#16
equinox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 159	Originally posted by nosnoop K-x is already listed at Henry's - C$699 with kit lens. nosnoop thanks for checking this. I lost my marbles last time with the Pentax Canada Sales department over the 60-250mm pricing as they could not give me 1 good reason not to buy in the USA. I am going to pick this camera up as it will be a great small carry along camera while biking. I like Henrys, just not their Oakville location as the manager there does not like to help customers.

09-17-2009, 11:40 AM	#17
equinox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 159	Originally posted by cyg ... and 999 C$ for the 55-300 double kit. Ouch! This is $850 in the US! If this price is confirmed (also for the other colours), this is pretty good for the single kit though. Compared to the two kit lens Canon XS (18-55mm + 55-200mm@$899) it is close. I expected Pentax C to charge $1399 for the kit which would never sell.

09-17-2009, 11:52 AM	#18
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	Originally posted by equinox nosnoop thanks for checking this. I lost my marbles last time with the Pentax Canada Sales department over the 60-250mm pricing as they could not give me 1 good reason not to buy in the USA. I am going to pick this camera up as it will be a great small carry along camera while biking. I like Henrys, just not their Oakville location as the manager there does not like to help customers. Maybe he just does not like Pentax customers....

09-17-2009, 12:39 PM	#19
WheresWaldo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 498	Don't know if this was posted already, but Pentax posted a YouTube video YouTube - Pentax K-x

09-17-2009, 01:40 PM	#20
cyg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 134	Originally posted by equinox Compared to the two kit lens Canon XS (18-55mm + 55-200mm@$899) it is close. I suppose the K-x double kit with 50-200 will be somewhere in the middle (850?), making it quite competitive with the other guys. What is a bit annoying is that Pentax Canada seems quite happy with rounding up to the next $100 when converting their price from USD to CAD...

09-17-2009, 01:52 PM	#21
equinox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 159	Originally posted by cyg I suppose the K-x double kit with 50-200 will be somewhere in the middle (850?), making it quite competitive with the other guys. What is a bit annoying is that Pentax Canada seems quite happy with rounding up to the next $100 when converting their price from USD to CAD... Ha I never thought of the Da 50-200mm. Pentax C has embraced Capitalism except they crippled anyr sales outlets that may want to carry the product. I suspect the Kx will catch on at a big superchain though due to HD video.

09-17-2009, 02:24 PM	#22
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25	Originally posted by CaymanImaging ... Great marketing idea, but they also need to start filling the top tier of cameras and lenes for that growing segment and MORE importantly, keep us advanced people and pros happy. +1 ... not that I'd consider myself very advanced yet. But I'm itching to try out some lenses, and nobody up here rents Pentax stuff. - I'm playing with the idea of renting out any lenses I may buy. I think Pentax does a decent job attracting first time buyers with what they offer in their lower end stuff ... worked for me and my K200D (hey that rhymes ) ... but, Pentax as a company really needs to focus on keeping people in the brand ... and reducing the number of "jumping ship" posts in the marketplace section. Getting a higher percentage of the advanced users excited about pentax should make the stores take notice. I was at a small seminar on the weekend - one person had a pentax ... me. And the instructor (who is also a salesman at a local camera shop) actually suggested that I switch brands due to the lack of support for pentax. ... If it wasn't for this general market view, I probably would have expanded my system by now. ... I love my camera, pentax has to get their product into the hands of more people, and then fight to keep them there. The K7 is a sweet camera ... but I think Pentax has to do more - maybe it's just marketing? Dunno. . ... Anyway, rambling now. Last edited by ShutterLag; 09-17-2009 at 02:30 PM.

09-17-2009, 03:00 PM	#23
Ari Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Freehold, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 856	They NEED to re-hire a sales force! This is the perfect camera for people looking at a first dslr. If they can't get it on the shelves, though, why bother.........

09-17-2009, 03:18 PM	#24
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	Originally posted by ShutterLag +1 ... not that I'd consider myself very advanced yet. But I'm itching to try out some lenses, and nobody up here rents Pentax stuff. - I'm playing with the idea of renting out any lenses I may buy. I think Pentax does a decent job attracting first time buyers with what they offer in their lower end stuff ... worked for me and my K200D (hey that rhymes ) ... but, Pentax as a company really needs to focus on keeping people in the brand ... and reducing the number of "jumping ship" posts in the marketplace section. Getting a higher percentage of the advanced users excited about pentax should make the stores take notice. I was at a small seminar on the weekend - one person had a pentax ... me. And the instructor (who is also a salesman at a local camera shop) actually suggested that I switch brands due to the lack of support for pentax. ... If it wasn't for this general market view, I probably would have expanded my system by now. ... I love my camera, pentax has to get their product into the hands of more people, and then fight to keep them there. The K7 is a sweet camera ... but I think Pentax has to do more - maybe it's just marketing? Dunno. . ... Anyway, rambling now. Any instructor trash talking about Pentax or any brand for that matter is nothing more than a sales person to me... they probably know more on certain brands, than others - you have to weed out the good from the bad. I think Pentax's strategy is always like niche player - it is a brand name that you will want to get. It is kind of like, "that is neat where do you get it?".

09-17-2009, 05:56 PM	#25
cyg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 134	Originally posted by equinox Pentax C has embraced Capitalism except they crippled anyr sales outlets that may want to carry the product. I suspect the Kx will catch on at a big superchain though due to HD video. It's not that bad in Canada. I find that most camera shop carry some Pentax gear, and even futureshop has some Pentax dslr from time to time. I think you are right that these colourful cameras may be exactly what is needed to get some shelf space.

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09-17-2009, 06:16 PM	#26
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Ohh, shiny things....... Yeah, pretty good comeback at the entry level. The sensor and the battery life look phenomenal - up to 1900 shots listed with Lithiums.....

09-17-2009, 07:12 PM	#27
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by cyg I suppose the K-x double kit with 50-200 will be somewhere in the middle (850?), making it quite competitive with the other guys. Don't forget that the new Pentax "L" lenses that came out with the K-x appear to be "cheapened" (for lack of a better word) to keep the price down. They have plastic mounts, not metal. So "L" likely stands for lightweight. They come with no hood, and no quick--shift focussing. Whether they are optically equivalent is another issue.

09-17-2009, 07:19 PM	#28
bladerunner0427 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 113	I didn't expect this from Pentax! Great move in my opinion. These color choices should attract young and newbie photogs to Pentax. Man, I'm loving that red K-x. Too bad I already have the white K-m. I'd like to see some sample images from this cmos sensor.

09-17-2009, 09:41 PM	#29
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by Aristophanes Don't forget that the new Pentax "L" lenses that came out with the K-x appear to be "cheapened" (for lack of a better word) to keep the price down. They have plastic mounts, not metal. So "L" likely stands for lightweight. They come with no hood, and no quick--shift focussing. Whether they are optically equivalent is another issue. They came out with the K-m a year ago, and yes, the plastic mount is to keep weight and price down. Optically, however, they're identical.