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09-17-2009, 10:28 PM   #31
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Lack of Red Focus Confirmation Light on Screen

I agree with OGL,

I have a K20D and K100D, the K-X's price is good for a second (third?) body or street camera and I'd like to get involved with video, but not having the focus confirmation on the focusing screen is a deal breaker for me. I'll pass.

Bring back the focus confirmation on screen Pentax, having a green hexagon in the lower corner isn't enough!

How much is Hoya/Pentax really saving by removing this feature?

QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Really?
With old 16-segments metering, SAFOX 8 and without AF indicators in VF, and AF assist lamp?


Hoya goes in new ways - K-7/K-x.
The line of DS/K100D/K200D is dead. It's sad for me.


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QuoteOriginally posted by legacyb4 Quote
What will be neat is that there will be no missing what camera brand the tourists to Vancouver will be carrying!
So much so that they won't even have to wear the PENTAX strap.

K-x: Easily identifiable in orange and pink.
09-17-2009, 10:34 PM   #33
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So none of us should like the camera because you don't?
09-17-2009, 11:02 PM   #34
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
yes, K-x is upgrade of K-m and nothing else. the camera for Japanese youth, girls and women and begginers.
I'd say that you are experienced enough to buy yourself a K-7. Do yourself and Pentax a favor

Alternatively, buy a K20D. Still better than the K200D.

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Not everyone. Others who think the k-7 is too expensive for them and that the k-x is too stripped down will either not upgrade from their current camera, upgrade to a used one, or look elsewhere for what they want.
Exactly - I've already talked to someone that was exited to upgrade from K100D to K-x until she heard about the missing focus point indicators. Budget-conscious but relatively advanced amateurs get almost everything the want with the K-x - but the focus confirmation may be a deal-breaker. Which makes me think that there will be a third camera between the two! It would have all the features of the K-x and add weather sealing and focus point indicators. Maybe it could simply be a stripped-down K-7 in a simpler (plastic) body?

Even Olympus has 4 tiers of DSLRs now (not counting the EP-1)...

And one more thing: I can't believe that people are still thinking it will be a "K30D". Of course there won't! K-7 is the K20D successor, like it or not. The open question is whether the next camera (not counting the 645D which might be up next) will be above the K-7 (effectively making the K-7 a mid-tier camera, I don't know if the production costs of the K-7 are low enough to allow for that) or between K-x and K-7.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jct us101 Quote
So none of us should like the camera because you don't?
Yes?

Actually, the 5 RAW buffer won't be too big of a deal. Most people shoot in JPEG anyways... and with the RAW button it's real easy to switch between JPEG and RAW when you need to shoot fast and don't want too much clutter on your card and then use RAW for everything else... although I do agree the 5 RAW shot buffer is disappointing for me since I mainly shoot RAW.

And lol, this camera and the A500 represent a really nice value. I guess if you want the articulate screen, the A500, but the HD video really stands out...
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
4.7 fps with 5 RAW buffer is funny.
11 JPEG is respectable, and it would just drop to 2fps until card is full.
Most people would use it that way.

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For video, I have video camera.
Then you totally miss the point. And sure if you have no clue about the advantage of interchangeable lenses and shallow DOF video, then yeah, you can keep your video camera.

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I don't like gadgets.
I can't shoot without AF points in VF. It's hard for me. And it's silly.
Then K-x is not for you. I perfectly understand why some people would buy one, and some don't. That's why there are so many different DSLRs out there for you to choose from!

What is silly to me is to dismiss or attack a model or feature that they personally have no use for, and expect the rest of the world to be the same too.

You probably would never use Live View. But if you ask any new DSLR buyers coming from P&S as to which feature they would prefer:
Live View with Face Detection AF or AF indicators?
I guarantee you that 99% of them would choose Live View.
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I will wait until my K200D die. And new FF camera too (2010?).


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09-17-2009, 11:33 PM   #39
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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
I'd say that you are experienced enough to buy yourself a K-7. Do yourself and Pentax a favor

Alternatively, buy a K20D. Still better than the K200D.
K200D has very weak AA filter and sharper pictures than K20D.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
I will wait until my K200D die. And new FF camera too.
Yeah, we get it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Angevinn Quote
I agree with OGL,

I have a K20D and K100D, the K-X's price is good for a second (third?) body or street camera and I'd like to get involved with video, but not having the focus confirmation on the focusing screen is a deal breaker for me. I'll pass.

Bring back the focus confirmation on screen Pentax, having a green hexagon in the lower corner isn't enough!

How much is Hoya/Pentax really saving by removing this feature?
I hope that there is indicator at the info panel in VF which indicate which AF point is selected. But I 'm not sure. And it's not comfort.

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I remember a Hoya statement from the beginning of the year that 3 new or modified models were to come in 2009. So far only two right?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Supernaut Quote
I remember a Hoya statement from the beginning of the year that 3 new or modified models were to come in 2009. So far only two right?
645D is the other one.
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Active AF point

Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's the big deal about the active AF-point indicator? When I put down my K20d and pick up my wife's K2000/K-m, I simply set the AF-point to the center and then focus and recompose as needed. Works 90% of the time for me. And with AE set to center-weighted, it ensures that my subject is in focus and properly exposed.

Under what circumstances would the above technique not work, and how often does that situation arise?

I don't get the hubbub.
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If we compare specs of K-x and K200D, K-x is better in 95%...
I'd like to see RAW from K-x...
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