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MCR · 10-14-2009, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by ogl

DA*30/1.4 SDM is what we want.

Me too.... DA*55 is superb lens, but now I'm looking for something near 30 mm.
FA31 is superb but expensive, FA35/2 is ok but plastic/fantastic

DA35/2.8 is to dark, Sigma 30/1.4 has a poor corner....

DA*30/1.4 - my dream come true

Blue · 10-14-2009, 01:09 PM

The trouble is that hanging the DA* designation, especially on a wide fast lens, is going to push the price beyond what the FA 77mm ltd sells for.

RBellavance · 10-15-2009, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by Blue

The trouble is that hanging the DA* designation, especially on a wide fast lens, is going to push the price beyond what the FA 77mm ltd sells for.

Exactly my thoughts.

Instead of a DA*30/1.4, I'd rather have a DA30/2 WR. I.e., an inexpensive, relatively fast, weather-resistant "normal" prime. Heck, just repackage the FA35/2 as a DA WR and be done with it.

janneman · 10-15-2009, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by RBellavance

Exactly my thoughts.

Instead of a DA*30/1.4, I'd rather have a DA30/2 WR. I.e., an inexpensive, relatively fast, weather-resistant "normal" prime. Heck, just repackage the FA35/2 as a DA WR and be done with it.

I knew this would come up...
But for many of my "fast and wide" I have found the FA35/2.0 just too slow and too narrow.
(But I will settle for a D FA31/1.8 LE WR

)

(DA30/1.4 WR will be enough for much of my "wide fast sealed" shooting)

RBellavance · 10-15-2009, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by janneman

I knew this would come up...
But for many of my "fast and wide" I have found the FA35/2.0 just too slow and too narrow.
(But I will settle for a D FA31/1.8 LE WR

)

I probably would not like the price of this one

Quote:

(DA30/1.4 WR will be enough for much of my "wide fast sealed" shooting)

I'd almost certainly buy one of these the day it would come out.

gazonk · 10-15-2009, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by janneman

I knew this would come up...
But for many of my "fast and wide" I have found the FA35/2.0 just too slow and too narrow.
(But I will settle for a D FA31/1.8 LE WR

)

(DA30/1.4 WR will be enough for much of my "wide fast sealed" shooting)

35 mm is on the long side of normal on APS-C. Maybe what you need for street/carnival shooting is something corresponding to either a 43 mm (i.e. 28mm) or perhaps even better: Like 35 mm on FF.

I.e. what you want is a DA23/1.7 LE WR ;-)

Ratmagiclady · 10-15-2009, 09:11 PM

I'd love to see them remake the A 28/2 as an FA, maybe an FA WR.
(noticing wishful thinking. OK, OK. DA.

)

Something in a 28-31 sort of range, affordable, sharp, reasonably fast, (maybe a 1.8) and not too huge. (1.4's in this range tend to be pretty darn chunky.)

Something to really get people shooting Pentax.

(and for me.

)

I like the 43 mm equivalent, for my tastes and practicalities, it pretty much does the job of my 35 and 50 in 35mm (Neither are quite my favorite FOV: for me the 43mm equivalent does what most would do with a 35, and I like the 75, it's like an 85 for a lot of things but a bit more flexible.)

Last edited by Ratmagiclady; 10-15-2009 at 09:26 PM.

janneman · 10-17-2009, 01:55 AM

It does not really HAVE toe be DA*30/1.4.....

Just a few simple requirements:
Wider than 31mm
faster than f 1.8
sealed
preferably very high IQ although I will settle for high IQ

.

Do you know that I have found the combination of f1.8 and 31 mm allows me much more than 35mm at f2?

ogl · 10-17-2009, 03:30 AM

Maybe DFA*25/1.7 SDM?

thibs · 10-17-2009, 05:15 AM

Ideally: make a DA* 30/1.4 SDM AND a DA WR 30/1.8 or/2.

MikePerham · 10-17-2009, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Ideally: make a DA* 30/1.4 SDM AND a DA WR 30/1.8 or/2.

I doubt that you will see a DA prime unless in the limited series, and none of the DA limiteds are fast.

thibs · 10-17-2009, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by MikePerham

I doubt that you will see a DA prime unless in the limited series, and none of the DA limiteds are fast.

There's only one (for now) if I count correctly and it is DA14/2.8. Why not more? (yes I know, 'zoom is everything we need' hum... NOT !).

Blue · 10-17-2009, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by thibs

There's only one (for now) if I count correctly and it is DA14/2.8. Why not more? (yes I know, 'zoom is everything we need' hum... NOT !).

Without the * designation, that is true.

FullertonImages · 10-17-2009, 01:20 PM

DA 14/2.8 is such a nice lens. Absurdly sharp with great contrast and color.

MikePerham · 10-17-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by thibs

There's only one (for now) if I count correctly and it is DA14/2.8. Why not more? (yes I know, 'zoom is everything we need' hum... NOT !).

There is that one, but I was referring to a 30mm lens. I doubt you will see a DA WR 30 f1.8 or f2.0 ...if they do make a 30 mm prime that's faster than f2.8 it would likely be a DA* series ...and perhaps a f2 in the limited series. I don't think there is a market for fast primes in a lens grade that is designed and priced to appeal to the plebeian masses. Those folks go for zooms!

10-17-2009, 01:55 AM	#158
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Let's not make it too hard on Pentax then It does not really HAVE toe be DA*30/1.4..... Just a few simple requirements: Wider than 31mm faster than f 1.8 sealed preferably very high IQ although I will settle for high IQ . Do you know that I have found the combination of f1.8 and 31 mm allows me much more than 35mm at f2?

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10-14-2009, 06:46 AM	#151
MCR Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Torun, POLAND Posts: 119	Originally posted by ogl DA30/1.4 SDM is what we want. Me too.... DA55 is superb lens, but now I'm looking for something near 30 mm. FA31 is superb but expensive, FA35/2 is ok but plastic/fantastic DA35/2.8 is to dark, Sigma 30/1.4 has a poor corner.... DA*30/1.4 - my dream come true

10-14-2009, 01:09 PM	#152
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	The trouble is that hanging the DA* designation, especially on a wide fast lens, is going to push the price beyond what the FA 77mm ltd sells for.

10-15-2009, 05:15 AM	#153
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by Blue The trouble is that hanging the DA* designation, especially on a wide fast lens, is going to push the price beyond what the FA 77mm ltd sells for. Exactly my thoughts. Instead of a DA*30/1.4, I'd rather have a DA30/2 WR. I.e., an inexpensive, relatively fast, weather-resistant "normal" prime. Heck, just repackage the FA35/2 as a DA WR and be done with it.

10-15-2009, 06:50 AM	#154
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by RBellavance Exactly my thoughts. Instead of a DA*30/1.4, I'd rather have a DA30/2 WR. I.e., an inexpensive, relatively fast, weather-resistant "normal" prime. Heck, just repackage the FA35/2 as a DA WR and be done with it. I knew this would come up... But for many of my "fast and wide" I have found the FA35/2.0 just too slow and too narrow. (But I will settle for a D FA31/1.8 LE WR ) (DA30/1.4 WR will be enough for much of my "wide fast sealed" shooting)

10-15-2009, 07:17 AM	#155
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by janneman I knew this would come up... But for many of my "fast and wide" I have found the FA35/2.0 just too slow and too narrow. (But I will settle for a D FA31/1.8 LE WR ) I probably would not like the price of this one Quote: (DA30/1.4 WR will be enough for much of my "wide fast sealed" shooting) I'd almost certainly buy one of these the day it would come out.

10-15-2009, 09:47 AM	#156
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by janneman I knew this would come up... But for many of my "fast and wide" I have found the FA35/2.0 just too slow and too narrow. (But I will settle for a D FA31/1.8 LE WR ) (DA30/1.4 WR will be enough for much of my "wide fast sealed" shooting) 35 mm is on the long side of normal on APS-C. Maybe what you need for street/carnival shooting is something corresponding to either a 43 mm (i.e. 28mm) or perhaps even better: Like 35 mm on FF. I.e. what you want is a DA23/1.7 LE WR ;-)

10-15-2009, 09:11 PM	#157
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	I'd love to see them remake the A 28/2 as an FA, maybe an FA WR. (noticing wishful thinking. OK, OK. DA. ) Something in a 28-31 sort of range, affordable, sharp, reasonably fast, (maybe a 1.8) and not too huge. (1.4's in this range tend to be pretty darn chunky.) Something to really get people shooting Pentax. (and for me. ) I like the 43 mm equivalent, for my tastes and practicalities, it pretty much does the job of my 35 and 50 in 35mm (Neither are quite my favorite FOV: for me the 43mm equivalent does what most would do with a 35, and I like the 75, it's like an 85 for a lot of things but a bit more flexible.) Last edited by Ratmagiclady; 10-15-2009 at 09:26 PM.

10-17-2009, 03:30 AM	#159
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Maybe DFA*25/1.7 SDM?

10-17-2009, 05:15 AM	#160
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Ideally: make a DA* 30/1.4 SDM AND a DA WR 30/1.8 or/2.

10-17-2009, 07:58 AM	#161
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Originally posted by thibs Ideally: make a DA* 30/1.4 SDM AND a DA WR 30/1.8 or/2. I doubt that you will see a DA prime unless in the limited series, and none of the DA limiteds are fast.

10-17-2009, 09:28 AM	#162
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by MikePerham I doubt that you will see a DA prime unless in the limited series, and none of the DA limiteds are fast. There's only one (for now) if I count correctly and it is DA14/2.8. Why not more? (yes I know, 'zoom is everything we need' hum... NOT !).

10-17-2009, 12:32 PM	#163
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by thibs There's only one (for now) if I count correctly and it is DA14/2.8. Why not more? (yes I know, 'zoom is everything we need' hum... NOT !). Without the * designation, that is true.

10-17-2009, 01:20 PM	#164
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	DA 14/2.8 is such a nice lens. Absurdly sharp with great contrast and color.

10-17-2009, 02:00 PM	#165
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Originally posted by thibs There's only one (for now) if I count correctly and it is DA14/2.8. Why not more? (yes I know, 'zoom is everything we need' hum... NOT !). There is that one, but I was referring to a 30mm lens. I doubt you will see a DA WR 30 f1.8 or f2.0 ...if they do make a 30 mm prime that's faster than f2.8 it would likely be a DA* series ...and perhaps a f2 in the limited series. I don't think there is a market for fast primes in a lens grade that is designed and priced to appeal to the plebeian masses. Those folks go for zooms!

anything else coming in 2009?

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