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09-19-2009, 12:24 AM   #1
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I think K-x is not Pentax. It's HOYA.

The first HOYA camera was K-m. Not bad, not very good. Simple and cheap.

K-x is real POPS.
HOYA looks like SONY now, but smaller. They want to sell gadgets, not photo cameras.

K-x is typical camera which made marketing, not engineers.

Let's be honest.

K-x is typical construction set.

The sensor - not bad CMOS from SONY - "new, but old", rather cheap now.

The processor - old PRIME II.

The body - old K-m.

AF - 11 AF points, but no AF indicators - NO. Like in K-m. Shame.

The controls - like in K-m.

Video - just for fun and for declaration - WE HAVE VIDEO in DSLR.
Good? 1280x720@24 with mono and manual focus with 2.7" LCD. it's not serious.

FPS - yes, 4.7 FPS, but buffer is 5 RAW. 11 RAW just at 2 fps.

Metering - OLD 16-segment metering

Shutter Speed - downgrade of K-7's shutter.
Don't forget - the base ISO = ISO200, not 100.
1/6000 is some kind of trick too.

Sv mode - I think it's interesting mode, but we use it very rare.

All this info - 12.4 MP, 4.7 FPS, 720P video, 1/6000 are some kind of marketing to attract masses, not real photo amateurs.

Which camera can HOYA offer for advanced amateurs? Only one. K-7.
It's good machine, but not cheap.

HOYA doesn't want to offer something like K200D, E-30, E-620, D90 or A550.
HOYA can't offer lens roadmap for the customers.
:ugh:

I don't think it's bad, I don't think it's good... But HOYA moves in another way, not like Pentax did.

Pentax of 2009 is not my Pentax.

09-19-2009, 12:44 AM   #2
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It's aimed to the average buyer.
Target: Christmas and New Year sales
Rather cheap and full featured, for Reese Witherspoon type of character.
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Man, are you serious?
I just about disagree with every point you made.

But which part of your ranting is considered "News" or "Rumors"?
Your post does not belong to this forum.
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Man, are you serious?
I just about disagree with every point you made.

But which part of your ranting is considered "News" or "Rumors"?
Your post does not belong to this forum.
You can disagree.
Which forum?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Bunny Gear Quote
The sensor - not bad CMOS from SONY - "new, but old", rather cheap now.
It might be better than the one in K-7. I suppose it's the a700 with some extra care to it.

The processor - old PRIME II.
NEW. As in K-7.

AF - 11 AF points, but no AF indicators - NO. Like in K-m. Shame.
11 as in K-7. Same VF as K-m means no overlay. Not sure if it's such a shame.

Video - just for fun and for declaration - WE HAVE VIDEO in DSLR.
Good? 1280x720@24 with mono and manual focus with 2.7" LCD. it's not serious.
A "must" have these days in the class a half or one step up. Using it is not mandatory.

FPS - yes, 4.7 FPS, but buffer is 5 RAW. 11 RAW just at 2 fps.
[BYes, but better i jpeg. But it's better to get specification driven buyers than none, right?[/B]

1/6000 is some kind of trick too.
Yes, pls bring back the 1/4000! :ugh:

Pentax of 2009 is not my Pentax.
Two exciting releases this year. What's not to like?
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On the contrary. K10D was not completely Pentax. It was half-Samsung, now this year we got REAL Pentax. The K-7. IMO even the K-x is more Pentax than K20D.

Now I agree that many will miss in the Pentax lineup something like the K200D. But admit it - it was a comercial failure. They succeeded with K-m, so logically they try to build on this success.
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On the contrary. K10D was not completely Pentax. It was half-Samsung, now this year we got REAL Pentax. The K-7. IMO even the K-x is more Pentax than K20D.

Now I agree that many will miss in the Pentax lineup something like the K200D. But admit it - it was a comercial failure. They succeeded with K-m, so logically they try to build on this success.
Nonsense. K10D was NEVER 50% SAMSUNG. Samsung gave 5% to this camera. K20D was 50% from Samsung.
K-x is MORE HOYA than Pentax.

K-x will have big success only in Japan and Asian market. IMO.
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I don't think so...Many PR and AD's noise.
For me, K-7 and K-x are gadgets.

I understand - NO VIDEO and LV, NO SALES.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Bunny Gear Quote
I don't think so...Many PR and AD's noise.
For me, K-7 and K-x are gadgets.

I understand - NO VIDEO and LV, NO SALES.
With that perspective, all cameras after the K1000 are filled with gadgets
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This is just ridiculous

K-x is incredible value for money in the beginner's segment. It's just logical to add video to this kind of camera, since those upgrading from P&S will want it. And everything else is also specced like a more expensive camera. I can't believe you complain about that. It's not like it's a toy, in many respects it's a better camera than my K10D.
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Troll. RH, please stop
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RiceHigh candidate of the day goes to Bunny Gear.
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Just add 11 AF points with VF indicators then I will trade my K-m for it. The K-x is feature packed but misses what I need the most. :ugh:
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Troll. RH, please stop
Am I sensing some paranoia here?
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Am I sensing some paranoia here?
It does sound suspiciously like him.
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