K-x and remote software?

bunegg · 11-06-2009, 01:08 AM

how about eye-fi?

knoxploration · 11-06-2009, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by bunegg

how about eye-fi?

It's certainly a possibility, but much slower than tethered USB (on the order of 6-8 seconds per 25MB Raw file), and I I've heard reports of troubles with Eye-Fi in the K-7 specifically, for example:

Anyone tested Eye-Fi Pro with K-7?: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

**Aristophanes** · 11-06-2009, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by knoxploration

Nobody's going to be able to support the K-7 or K-x for tethered shooting unless Pentax allows this with the cameras' firmware. At the moment, if the K-7 is connected to a computer, then all on-camera controls are disabled, and any software on the PC is only able to transfer files - not control the camera remotely. Hence there's no way to trigger the shutter with a PC connected. I've not personally used the K-x yet but believe the same to be the case with that camera too.

I'd really love to see this change - the lack of tethered shooting capability is, to me, the biggest shortcoming of the K-7 as compared to its rivals. There's no real need for remote control of exposure variables or shutter - just allowing the camera to shoot from the on-body controls while tethered would be enough to make the function useful.

That would allow me to set the camera up on a tripod, shoot a bunch of images and have them automatically downloaded to preview them near-immediately on my large, high-res PC display, and confirm whether I needed to reshoot with a minimum of fiddling to either pan/zoom on the camera LCD, or transfer flash cards / connect / disconnect the camera between shots to preview on the PC.

There's an structure called Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) of which this capacity is part. I am not sure it is firmware; it may be part hardware and licensing related for the USB segment:

Picture Transfer Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

knoxploration · 11-06-2009, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

There's an structure called Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) of which this capacity is part. I am not sure it is firmware; it may be part hardware and licensing related for the USB segment:

Picture Transfer Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yep, I know - but you can see for yourself that it won't work with the current firmware because the camera disables all external controls and powers down the metering system as soon as the USB cable is connected, when set to PTP mode. Hence, there's no way to take a picture.

For it to be useful for tethered shooting, Pentax would need to change their current firmware so as to allow the camera to shoot while in PTP mode, which is something it can't currently do.

**kiwi_jono** · 12-22-2009, 05:17 PM

+1 for wanting time lapse.

Will give pkremote a go - cool software for Linux!

Failing finding anything else I am going to modify a IR remote and add a timer (luckily I know my way around a soldering iron).

Russell-Evans · 12-22-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by kiwi_jono

+1 for wanting time lapse.

Will give pkremote a go - cool software for Linux!

Failing finding anything else I am going to modify a IR remote and add a timer (luckily I know my way around a soldering iron).

Remote Control for Pentax

Quote:

This program was developed to replace the Pentax Remote Control F.
To run this program you need to have a mobile device with Pocket PC, Windows CE, Windows Mobile, IR interface, and MS .Net Compact Framework 2.0.

Thank you
Russell

dragonfly · 12-22-2009, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Russell-Evans

Remote Control for Pentax

Thank you
Russell

Now I totally need to get one of those. I'll probably find one at a garage sale. Does anyone have any idea what older PDA models will have this functionality? Any recommendations for an inexpensive device?

EliotK · 12-25-2009, 05:42 PM

I second that opinion, no tethered option on the K-7 level camera is a HUGE shortcoming and would make the camera so much better.

bunegg · 01-18-2010, 06:57 AM

Have anyone else tested eye fi with their kx?

angerdan · 06-02-2018, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by knoxploration

Nobody's going to be able to support the K-7 or K-x for tethered shooting unless Pentax allows this with the cameras' firmware.

What is offered by pkTriggerCord as well as PK_Tether.
Software support for Pentax needed! - PentaxForums.com

Originally posted by Russell-Evans

Remote Control for Pentax

Interesting software! There's even an own thread for it here in the forums:
Anyone tried this IR Remote for PPC's? - PentaxForums.com

There are two other threads about "Remote Control for Pentax" (RCFP):
Windows Mobile Pentax Remote - PentaxForums.com
Anyone tried this IR Remote for PPC's? - PentaxForums.com

06-02-2018, 08:37 AM	#25
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,639	Originally posted by knoxploration Nobody's going to be able to support the K-7 or K-x for tethered shooting unless Pentax allows this with the cameras' firmware. What is offered by pkTriggerCord as well as PK_Tether. Software support for Pentax needed! - PentaxForums.com Originally posted by Russell-Evans Remote Control for Pentax Interesting software! There's even an own thread for it here in the forums: Anyone tried this IR Remote for PPC's? - PentaxForums.com There are two other threads about "Remote Control for Pentax" (RCFP): Windows Mobile Pentax Remote - PentaxForums.com Anyone tried this IR Remote for PPC's? - PentaxForums.com Last edited by angerdan; 06-02-2018 at 09:46 AM.

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11-06-2009, 01:08 AM	#16
bunegg Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 82	how about eye-fi?

11-06-2009, 01:51 AM	#17
knoxploration Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 846	Originally posted by bunegg how about eye-fi? It's certainly a possibility, but much slower than tethered USB (on the order of 6-8 seconds per 25MB Raw file), and I I've heard reports of troubles with Eye-Fi in the K-7 specifically, for example: Anyone tested Eye-Fi Pro with K-7?: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

11-06-2009, 04:23 PM	#18
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by knoxploration Nobody's going to be able to support the K-7 or K-x for tethered shooting unless Pentax allows this with the cameras' firmware. At the moment, if the K-7 is connected to a computer, then all on-camera controls are disabled, and any software on the PC is only able to transfer files - not control the camera remotely. Hence there's no way to trigger the shutter with a PC connected. I've not personally used the K-x yet but believe the same to be the case with that camera too. I'd really love to see this change - the lack of tethered shooting capability is, to me, the biggest shortcoming of the K-7 as compared to its rivals. There's no real need for remote control of exposure variables or shutter - just allowing the camera to shoot from the on-body controls while tethered would be enough to make the function useful. That would allow me to set the camera up on a tripod, shoot a bunch of images and have them automatically downloaded to preview them near-immediately on my large, high-res PC display, and confirm whether I needed to reshoot with a minimum of fiddling to either pan/zoom on the camera LCD, or transfer flash cards / connect / disconnect the camera between shots to preview on the PC. There's an structure called Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) of which this capacity is part. I am not sure it is firmware; it may be part hardware and licensing related for the USB segment: Picture Transfer Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

11-06-2009, 04:31 PM	#19
knoxploration Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 846	Originally posted by Aristophanes There's an structure called Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) of which this capacity is part. I am not sure it is firmware; it may be part hardware and licensing related for the USB segment: Picture Transfer Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Yep, I know - but you can see for yourself that it won't work with the current firmware because the camera disables all external controls and powers down the metering system as soon as the USB cable is connected, when set to PTP mode. Hence, there's no way to take a picture. For it to be useful for tethered shooting, Pentax would need to change their current firmware so as to allow the camera to shoot while in PTP mode, which is something it can't currently do.

12-22-2009, 05:17 PM	#20
kiwi_jono Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,437	+1 for wanting time lapse. Will give pkremote a go - cool software for Linux! Failing finding anything else I am going to modify a IR remote and add a timer (luckily I know my way around a soldering iron).

12-22-2009, 07:27 PM	#21
Russell-Evans Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,553	Originally posted by kiwi_jono +1 for wanting time lapse. Will give pkremote a go - cool software for Linux! Failing finding anything else I am going to modify a IR remote and add a timer (luckily I know my way around a soldering iron). Remote Control for Pentax Quote: This program was developed to replace the Pentax Remote Control F. To run this program you need to have a mobile device with Pocket PC, Windows CE, Windows Mobile, IR interface, and MS .Net Compact Framework 2.0. Thank you Russell

12-22-2009, 07:40 PM	#22
dragonfly Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: on the wall Photos: Gallery Posts: 715	Originally posted by Russell-Evans Remote Control for Pentax Thank you Russell Now I totally need to get one of those. I'll probably find one at a garage sale. Does anyone have any idea what older PDA models will have this functionality? Any recommendations for an inexpensive device?

12-25-2009, 05:42 PM	#23
EliotK New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 10	I second that opinion, no tethered option on the K-7 level camera is a HUGE shortcoming and would make the camera so much better.

01-18-2010, 06:57 AM	#24
bunegg Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 82	Have anyone else tested eye fi with their kx?