Any news about Lens Roadmap?

miriya · 10-12-2009, 08:07 PM

I am curious about Pentax Lens Roadmap.

Any news on new lens? no more roadmap?

Pentax's critical problem is lack of AF lens.

in South Korea, EF 50mm f/1.8 is sold about $50.
Pentax? users buying MF Rikenon 50.7 and Phenix 50.7
50mm f/1.7 is similar price with 50mm f/1.4 !

and Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 is $200.
Pentax? 77limited is $600.

what about this high-low line-up?

30mm f/1.4 and f/1.8
88mm f/1.4 and f/1.8

below link is my full sort of all Pentax K mount lens. based on KMP.

SLR?? Pentax ??

**Ash** · 10-12-2009, 08:22 PM

Are these fair comparisons you are making in your opinion?
Lack of AF lenses?

Have a look at the Lens Review Database and see the variety that's available - buying new? A lot of the FA lenses, inlcuding all the limited series, and all DA lenses are easy to find and buy.

Your signature is funny with the English you've used... I think you mean to say "tell me if I have written anything rude". Is that right?

lithos · 10-13-2009, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Ash

Your signature is funny with the English you've used... I think you mean to say "tell me if I have written anything rude". Is that right?

Ash, I think that's the whole point of his sig. Miriya's obviously getting better.

I do believe Pentax needs a People's Prime. 28-35mm, f1.7 for starters. f1.4 or even 1.2 later. Tessar-type to keep the size and cost down.

joele · 10-13-2009, 01:28 AM

Is the 85/1.8 to the 77ltd a fair comparison? without comparing image quality you are comparing a fully metal construction to a much cheaper plastic design..

Asahiflex · 10-13-2009, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by joele

Is the 85/1.8 to the 77ltd a fair comparison? without comparing image quality you are comparing a fully metal construction to a much cheaper plastic design..

I have seen wide open results with the 85/1.8 and frankly "it failed to light my fire". It certainly does not compare to the FA 77/1.8 Ltd, neither in build nor in optical quality. Yes, it's cheap but I don't want my pictures to look cheap!

Some comparisons made with manual focus lenses against the EF85/1.8:

http://www.oriofoto.net/temp/octocomp/octocomp.htm

**Rondec** · 10-13-2009, 05:15 AM

My understanding is that Hoya has put the roadmap aside. They felt that Pentax was making promises it wasn't keeping, delaying lenses and that it was better just to announce lenses when they were ready -- generally at the same time as the announcement of camera bodies.

This year's project for Pentax was mainly weather sealing already existing lower end zooms. With that done and the 645 (hopefully) nearing completion, they can turn their attention toward some new lenses. The only current promised lens left on the old road map was the super telephoto (whatever that means).

I wish that Pentax would keep a couple of cheaper primes in production -- say the FA 35 and 50 lenses. If they could be sold in the 200 dollar range, they would probably fit the bill. I really don't think anyone is interested in a prime built like the Canon 50 f1.8. According to reviews, it is prone to fall apart after just a few months of use. Not good, even if it is cheap.

Ishpuini · 10-13-2009, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

My understanding is that Hoya has put the roadmap aside. They felt that Pentax was making promises it wasn't keeping, delaying lenses and that it was better just to announce lenses when they were ready -- generally at the same time as the announcement of camera bodies.

Could be, but then they should remove the roadmap from the Pentax site altogether.

Wim

MikePerham · 10-13-2009, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Ash

Your signature is funny with the English you've used... I think you mean to say "tell me if I have written anything rude". Is that right?

I don't think he is asking you to "tell him" if he says something rude, rather he is asking you to "excuse" him should his poor English translate to something inappropriate.

10-12-2009, 08:07 PM	#1
miriya Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Korea Photos: Gallery Posts: 68	Any news about Lens Roadmap? I am curious about Pentax Lens Roadmap. Any news on new lens? no more roadmap? Pentax's critical problem is lack of AF lens. in South Korea, EF 50mm f/1.8 is sold about $50. Pentax? users buying MF Rikenon 50.7 and Phenix 50.7 50mm f/1.7 is similar price with 50mm f/1.4 ! and Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 is $200. Pentax? 77limited is $600. what about this high-low line-up? 30mm f/1.4 and f/1.8 88mm f/1.4 and f/1.8 below link is my full sort of all Pentax K mount lens. based on KMP. SLR?? Pentax ??

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10-12-2009, 08:22 PM	#2
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Are these fair comparisons you are making in your opinion? Lack of AF lenses? Have a look at the Lens Review Database and see the variety that's available - buying new? A lot of the FA lenses, inlcuding all the limited series, and all DA lenses are easy to find and buy. Your signature is funny with the English you've used... I think you mean to say "tell me if I have written anything rude". Is that right?

10-13-2009, 12:17 AM	#3
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by Ash Your signature is funny with the English you've used... I think you mean to say "tell me if I have written anything rude". Is that right? Ash, I think that's the whole point of his sig. Miriya's obviously getting better. I do believe Pentax needs a People's Prime. 28-35mm, f1.7 for starters. f1.4 or even 1.2 later. Tessar-type to keep the size and cost down.

10-13-2009, 01:28 AM	#4
joele Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,308	Is the 85/1.8 to the 77ltd a fair comparison? without comparing image quality you are comparing a fully metal construction to a much cheaper plastic design..

10-13-2009, 04:11 AM	#5
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by joele Is the 85/1.8 to the 77ltd a fair comparison? without comparing image quality you are comparing a fully metal construction to a much cheaper plastic design.. I have seen wide open results with the 85/1.8 and frankly "it failed to light my fire". It certainly does not compare to the FA 77/1.8 Ltd, neither in build nor in optical quality. Yes, it's cheap but I don't want my pictures to look cheap! Some comparisons made with manual focus lenses against the EF85/1.8: http://www.oriofoto.net/temp/octocomp/octocomp.htm

10-13-2009, 05:15 AM	#6
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	My understanding is that Hoya has put the roadmap aside. They felt that Pentax was making promises it wasn't keeping, delaying lenses and that it was better just to announce lenses when they were ready -- generally at the same time as the announcement of camera bodies. This year's project for Pentax was mainly weather sealing already existing lower end zooms. With that done and the 645 (hopefully) nearing completion, they can turn their attention toward some new lenses. The only current promised lens left on the old road map was the super telephoto (whatever that means). I wish that Pentax would keep a couple of cheaper primes in production -- say the FA 35 and 50 lenses. If they could be sold in the 200 dollar range, they would probably fit the bill. I really don't think anyone is interested in a prime built like the Canon 50 f1.8. According to reviews, it is prone to fall apart after just a few months of use. Not good, even if it is cheap.

10-13-2009, 05:22 AM	#7
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Rondec My understanding is that Hoya has put the roadmap aside. They felt that Pentax was making promises it wasn't keeping, delaying lenses and that it was better just to announce lenses when they were ready -- generally at the same time as the announcement of camera bodies. Could be, but then they should remove the roadmap from the Pentax site altogether. Wim

10-13-2009, 07:24 AM	#8
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Originally posted by Ash Your signature is funny with the English you've used... I think you mean to say "tell me if I have written anything rude". Is that right? I don't think he is asking you to "tell him" if he says something rude, rather he is asking you to "excuse" him should his poor English translate to something inappropriate.