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10-21-2009, 09:22 PM   #1
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What's hot in 2015?

  1. The weather (thanks to global warming)
  2. EVIL cameras with FF sensors, at roughly the size and price of today's APS-C SLRs


10-21-2009, 09:51 PM   #2
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Everyone knows the world is going to end in 2012 so 2015 is a bit premature
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Not much in the way of news or rumour here.

Care to elaborate further on the evil FF camera predictions?
10-22-2009, 12:21 AM   #4
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QuoteOriginally posted by asw66 Quote
  1. The weather (thanks to global warming)
  2. EVIL cameras with FF sensors, at roughly the size and price of today's APS-C SLRs
The planet has been cooling for the past 10 years, not warming:
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming?

So the answer must be "2."

10-22-2009, 01:10 AM   #5
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Not much in the way of news or rumour here.

Care to elaborate further on the evil FF camera predictions?
Oh, I just thought that this was a reasonable bit of speculation for the assembled crowd of Pentaxians to chew on. Should I have chosen a different forum?

Anyhow, my reasoning on this matter is straightforward.
  • Chip yields will improve, bringing down the price of FF sensors.
  • EVs will improve to the point where OVs will no longer seem necessary for the majority of users.
  • Mirrorless designs allow for the creation of smaller camera bodies -- perhaps to the extent that a mirrorless FF body would be roughly on a par with contemporary APS-C mirror-based body today.
  • The market has shown that people are willing to pay a certain amount for good camera gear: manufacturers will attempt to preserve these price-points when designing future products.

None of these points is indubitable, but I'd say that none are unreasonable either. Your opinion may differ, of course ... But the upshot seems to be that the enthusiast camera market will be a very different place in five or so years' time.
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The planet has been cooling for the past 10 years, not warming:

So the answer must be "2."
Note: statistics may be invalid due to small sample size.
10-22-2009, 03:03 AM   #7
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QuoteOriginally posted by asw66 Quote
[*]Mirrorless designs allow for the creation of smaller camera bodies -- perhaps to the extent that a mirrorless FF body would be roughly on a par with contemporary APS-C mirror-based body today.
That has already sort of happened - with the Leica M9. It's slightly wider than the K-7, but smaller in all other directions, and also much lighter.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote
That has already sort of happened - with the Leica M9. It's slightly wider than the K-7, but smaller in all other directions, and also much lighter.
Sure but M9 is not an SLR. Still nice to see a small FF but no small FF Dslr.

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Sure but M9 is not an SLR. Still nice to see a small FF but no small FF Dslr.
Sure, but mirrorless designs (as in the post I quoted) aren't SLRs either :-) (And I imagine EVFs will eventually take up much less space than a rangefinder)
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This thread is going to be so much more full of awesome than the FF 2010 thread! I'm serious, how much more interesting are people's imaginations over simple speculation?

I have always enjoyed photography as a hobby, but...this was my camera in 2004. Sony MVC-CD250 Digital Camera Review: Intro and Highlights

Considering how far digital has come in the last 5 years, and that many pro/enthusiasts were probably still shooting predominantly film in 2004, the possibilities are sky high for the future.

So, I am going to sit back and enjoy this show!
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QuoteOriginally posted by PentaxPoke Quote
The planet has been cooling for the past 10 years, not warming:
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming?

So the answer must be "2."

You didn't read the article.
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QuoteOriginally posted by konraDarnok Quote
You didn't read the article.
Well spotted!
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QuoteOriginally posted by PentaxPoke Quote
The planet has been cooling for the past 10 years, not warming:
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming?

So the answer must be "2."
wrong

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… trends over the past 10 years show only a 0.07 °C increase in global average temperature. Although this is only a small increase, it indicates that there has been no global cooling over this period. In fact, over the past decade, most years have remained much closer to the record global average temperature reached in 1998 than to temperatures before the 1970s. All the years from 2000 to 2008 have been in the top 14 warmest years on record.
The BBC asks “What happened to global warming?” during the hottest decade in recorded history! Climate Progress
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QuoteOriginally posted by konraDarnok Quote
You didn't read the article.
You're not a student of history.
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QuoteOriginally posted by asw66 Quote
  1. The weather (thanks to global warming)
  2. EVIL cameras with FF sensors, at roughly the size and price of today's APS-C SLRs
Well if your good at predicting 6 years down the road,maybe you can predict what tonights Lotto numbers will be please!!!!Then if we all win enough money,it won't matter how dear or cheap the FF camera is.Then we can all go out and buy that FF camera in the year 2015.CAN"T WAIT!!!
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